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Ben Whittaker exposed ??? Or just a rough night at the office?

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Ben Whittaker had a decent amount of hype built mostly off of styling on outmatched opponents, with some calling him "the next Prince Nasseem Hamed"



Last night he encountered a Liam Cameron who seemed poised to take Ben's shots and stand toe to toe and duke it out using clean technically sound boxing.

What is your takeaway from that fight?

What a bizarre ending.

Personally I think Ben showed he is lacking in the fundamentals.
I love a fighter with elite elusive head movement, but I find it works best as a compliment to a solid fundamental base.
Putting the hands low and "slipping and ripping" is a great way to entertain the fans while also encouraging your opponent to overextend to create the opening you need for a counter KO...

BUT, if the opponent is NOT outmatched, and doesn't have any reason to fight wild because they are a disciplined vet, as we saw last night, and they can beat you with fundamental boxing, all that flashy shit ain't gonna do much for you.

Furthermore, Ben didn't seem to have a middle ground. When he fought more traditionally last night, he lost his head movement entirely and seemed to forget all of the "unorthodoxed" reaction based style that has brought him his prior success.




Curious what yall have to say about Ben and his future. And Liam for that matter. I though Liam fought a good fight and made a good showing of himself.

I won't write the kid off yet, but that was not a good look.
He has some serious work to do if he wants to compete at an elite level and I think it is reasonable to question whether or not he has the discipline to make the changes. Time will tell
 
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i dont think we will be seeing a lot of him going forwards, he didnt just expose himself as a guy with a flaky chin....he exposed himself as someone who doesnt really have a lot of skill, andhe wasnt fighting anyone even near the top level

his days of fighting and dancing are done
 
If he doesn't have a documented tear or break to justify being wheelchaired out of there not only was it an exposure of his skill but of him not being tough or mentally strong enough to be an elite pro
 
I personally don't see what happened to his right leg.

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If he doesn't have a documented tear or break to justify being wheelchaired out of there not only was it an exposure of his skill but of him not being tough or mentally strong enough to be an elite pro

I didn't catch that he was wheelchaired out.

My... how dramatic.

I personally don't see what happened to his right leg.

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I don't see it either. {<shrug}
 
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I personally don't see what happened to his right leg.

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hmm… it appears he’s an exposed jobber from the footage, we’ll have to consult the X-rays first but upon seeing it from that angle I trust my gut professional boxing has had its fun but now it’s done with him. Ceiling found.
 
He'll be back to clowning fools in no time...like, dudes making their professional debut, ya dig?
 
Fair enough sir.
Same type of scenario though.

Someone that stands their ground and uses superior boxing techniques to thwart the flashy cocksure fighter.

Tarver did the same to Roy Joes Jr.
Before Whittaker got clowned on, you were comparing him to Floyd and Pac.

Now you’re comparing him to RJJ.

Are you trolling or just ignorant?
 
Before Whittaker got clowned on, you were comparing him to Floyd and Pac.

Now you’re comparing him to RJJ.

Are you trolling or just ignorant?
When the fuck did i compare him to Mayweather or Pac?

And if you actually read the conversation to have context...I said he got beat the same way NAZ got beat.

A flashy boxer getting beat by someone standing their ground and using better fundamentals....like RJJ getting beat by Tarver.

Where did you pull May and Pac from?...since I literally never said it?
 
He can go back to the gym, train and work on the fundamentals and come back as a better fighter. But without knowing anything about him personally, I wonder if he has too much of an ego to be able to do that. He's clowning and making a fool out of himself against guys way below his level and folds under the pressure against a guy who's a step up in competition but still not a world class opponent.

But I saw it when I saw his fights against guys who are nowhere near his level. Despite being so much more talented, he showed a lot of holes in his game.
 
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