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Yet ONE cards are significantly more exciting. There is a lot more to booking a promotion than just getting the best fighters. Bellator has never understood that concept and that is why their product is so dry. They're still using that UFC 2007 tactic of getting a lot of boring ass wrestlers with NCAA backgrounds. They also waste resources trying to push Ireland with some overrated ass fighters for a market that isn't important. New pushes like with their LW division is the direction it should be headed too.

ONE isn't trying to get the best fighters. It's trying to put on fights and narratives that they can sell to Asian people. KSW, Rizin and ACA all have similar goals. The UFC isn't trying to get the best fighters either, really. The PFL's selling point is its format not its roster.

I'm not saying PFL is doing better than Bellator, but I dont get the point of citing Bellator has better fighters. PFL isn't trying to get the best fighters. (and their fighters are probably underrated, anyway)

Bellator is trying to win at a game no one else is playing. Promotions do not care if Jason Jackson can beat their guy via lay and pray. Rizin lost to Bellator 5-0 and it hasn't affected them in the slightest.
The KB and Muay Thai is what is the most exciting parts of ONE cards, no one is hyping up ONE MMA talent beyond DJ or Adriano for the most part

Also if we are talking about boring fighters, PFL has the most per capita I would say
 
Yet ONE cards are significantly more exciting. There is a lot more to booking a promotion than just getting the best fighters. Bellator has never understood that concept and that is why their product is so dry. They're still using that UFC 2007 tactic of getting a lot of boring ass wrestlers with NCAA backgrounds. They also waste resources trying to push Ireland with some overrated ass fighters for a market that isn't important. New pushes like with their LW division is the direction it should be headed too.

ONE isn't trying to get the best fighters. It's trying to put on fights and narratives that they can sell to Asian people. KSW, Rizin and ACA all have similar goals. The UFC isn't trying to get the best fighters either, really. The PFL's selling point is its format not its roster.

I'm not saying PFL is doing better than Bellator, but I dont get the point of citing Bellator has better fighters. PFL isn't trying to get the best fighters. (and their fighters are probably underrated, anyway)

Bellator is trying to win at a game no one else is playing. Promotions do not care if Jason Jackson can beat their guy via lay and pray. Rizin lost to Bellator 5-0 and it hasn't affected them in the slightest.
I bring up the roster because it has to mean something when talking about Bellator's success. Building up and keeping guys like AJ, Stots, Patricio, Usman, Nemkov (to name a few) is to the credit of Coker.

It cant just be random exciting fights, the UFC promotes itself as the premier MMA promotion in the world (which they are), PFL promotes itself as the tournament gimmick AND having whatever made up number they came up with as being ranked in the top 20 in the world. ONE is the same thing, Chatri keeps talking about how his fighters are better tha everyone elses. So, its not just about being exciting, its about having the best.

Also, ONE is not making many exciting MMA fights beyond a handful of championship fights. The rest are very exciting muay thai fights.
 
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I would like to see what Coker can do with more support from CBS and not bound by a tight budget.

That was called Strikeforce. Coker made a lot of bad contracts the last few years of the org's existence. Way over paid too many times. Strikeforce had even worse direction of the org than Bellator has. Matchups were made all over the board with very little thought about the fighters next match ups. Many match ups were made strictly for entertainment and left zero direction for the fan to follow anyone to a title fight. Promotion/Advertising of Strikeforce was mess also just like Bellator. That was the hey day of UFC just blowing up and when Strikeforce held a very good event and I knew fans of the UFC that had no clue the event even took place. This was back in the day when fans of the UFC never missed an event because there was only small amount compared to today. Fans wanted to consume more MMA. Places like BWW's were literally just packed every PPV. A lot of place required reservations. Yet I'd talk to some fans at BWW's and they rarely knew anything about Strikeforce back then. Most seem to catch maybe every 3rd or 4th event at best with Strikeforce.

The deeper Strikeorce went into the hole the investors got more and more worried and eventually sold it. Actually, actively selling it with out Coker and his people even knowing until the eleventh hour. That always seemed odd to me. It was basically Coker's baby from the start(Coker's West Coast Entertainment) and Silicon Valley Sports who owned the majority of it and funded it didn't even try to see if he wanted to find a buyer to take over their shares. Seems to tell me that maybe that relationship was very strained in the end. I know Coker said he tried to get a group together but it was too late in the game to get a deal done.

Like I've always said, Coker is great talent relations guy. Beyond that, questionable. Better than most I would say, but he has had a lot of issues on the business side through the couple decades of running orgs.. He might just be to nice of guy in the business world if that makes sense.
 
The libraries.
Their libraries are valuable to media companies. To other promotions, not really. They do not have the infrastructure or stability to get much from it.

UFC Fight Pass is the only one that could put it to use and I don't think the UFC cares about that. Their parent company just acquired the WWE Network which is a million times more valuable.
 
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Endeavor would not risk buying Bellator, Lawsuits saying they are a monopoly have not yet been dismissed. Bellator is their best proof that other organizations exist.

Though their private equity supporter Silver Lake could buy them and they would still exist, if Fight Pass wanted the library... would rather they got the library of IFL & BodogFights.

Endeavor's new company will include UFC & WWE. They will look for other companies to add I hope Glory, as they need different kinds of top combat sports.
 
Coker can't force Viacom to heavily promote Bellator but with 0 Viacom promotion he has kept the company out of the red and profitable over 5 years.
Source?

anyone that believes Bellator fight cards over the past year have been garbage are just UFC butt kissers period!
Ah, yes, of course. How dare anyone not enjoy Bader/Kongo II or Jackson/Lima for example. We all know only UFC butt kissers thought those were snoozers. The true hardcore MMA fans know those were world class headlining fights.
 
Its Déjà vu all over again. Oh yeah thats right Ariel was the first to spread this bullshit rumor back around late December while Bellator is still going strong 4 months later and continues to be profitable. People sell MMA Orgs that are deep in the red bleeding money nobody sells an Org thats not the red and has been profitable for consecutive years.

Love or hate Ariel, the guy knows a lot of people across the MMA landscape. He isn't the type of guy to say that rumor public if he didn't believe the person he got info from is usually good on his/her word. That is a pretty big thing to drop if he only thought it was plausible. This isn't like saying I heard rumblings of so and so talking to Bellator or ONE and nothing ever comes from it. I don't think Coker would show up on his show either it was complete BS and if he did he surely would address it because that could issues on the business side for Bellator.
 
Source?

Ah, yes, of course. How dare anyone not enjoy Bader/Kongo II or Jackson/Lima for example. We all know only UFC butt kissers thought those were snoozers. The true hardcore MMA fans know those were world class headlining fights.

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Lets look at some main events of the evening UFC PPV's people actually had to pay to watch. The main event of the evening that should've been on a Fight Night but money hungry UFC made it the main event of a PPV.

UFC 272 Covington vs Masvidal
UFC 279 Ferguson vs Diaz
UFC 283 Teixeira vs Hill
 
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Lets look at some main events of the evening UFC PPV's people actually had to pay to watch. The main event of the evening that should've been on a Fight Night but money hungry UFC made it the main event of a PPV.

UFC 272 Covington vs Masvidal
UFC 279 Ferguson vs Diaz
UFC 283 Teixeira vs Hill
There is no way Bellator is worth $7 billion.
 
Love or hate Ariel, the guy knows a lot of people across the MMA landscape. He isn't the type of guy to say that rumor public if he didn't believe the person he got info from is usually good on his/her word. That is a pretty big thing to drop if he only thought it was plausible. This isn't like saying I heard rumblings of so and so talking to Bellator or ONE and nothing ever comes from it. I don't think Coker would show up on his show either it was complete BS and if he did he surely would address it because that could issues on the business side for Bellator.

Ariel usually has made statements that have been true but he has also made some that never never came to be. So far Bellator has been running just like a company thats not on the selling block. Most MMA Orgs that knew they were getting put on the selling block were not signing new fighters during that time they were cutting down on the budget instead. Bellator on the other hand continues to sign new fighters to this day in other words business as usual.
 
Coker has done a great job with Bellator. So far they have put together better fight cards compared to the watered down fight cards the UFC has put together for almost 2 decades. Coker can't force Viacom to heavily promote Bellator but with 0 Viacom promotion he has kept the company out of the red and profitable over 5 years. Coker has not made the same mistake he made with Strikeforce. The PFL and One are currently on that Strikeforce road deep in the red and ready to fail.

Now just look at the Bellator roster. Its incredible that Bellator has more fighters in top 10 Sherdog rankings including Vadim Nemkov ranked #1 LHW and Patricio #2 FW is a big accomplishment for Coker proving Bellator has just as good of a roster as Strikeforce had back in the day.

Coker has not run Bellator into the ground he slowly built them up and and anyone that believes Bellator fight cards over the past year have been garbage are just UFC butt kissers period! Bellator is the clear #2 profitable MMA promotion on the planet while the PFL and One are far behind and deep in the red. Would I like to see an investor that will spend money on heavily promoting Bellator shows hell yes but not at the expense of having the company go deep into the red to the point they end up failing.

Nobody is going to catch the UFC while they continue to take in 85% of total revenue while paying the fighters the peanut portion of 15%. Thats why the UFC ihas held onto its #1 position they can spend millions promoting the Org year after year. As long as that 85% - 15% split in total revenue remains intact the UFC will remain a monopoly in MMA.

We all know no one is every going to catch the UFC.

You do know it cost basically nothing for Viacom to offer more support to Bellator. Every media channel they own there is set time spots for promoting their own content. You see it all the time. Only time I ever see anything on Bellator event is once in awhile on Showtime break between shows an upcoming event gets mention. Why can't that be done on Paramount, MTV, Comedy Central, etc.???

Up until they moved to Showtime, Viacom never even put on a rerun of an event.

Bellator has a lot of very blah cards at best on paper. No doubt Coker has done a great job securing talent. He just can't seem to get his ducks in order and give us much more solid cards they do with the roster he has to work with.

Bellator growth around the world with media deals is much more a Viacom thing than a Coker thing. Scott Coker isn't flying around the world doing media deals on behalf of Bellator and Viacom. I'm guessing Bellator many times is just part of package that Viacom umbrella is just selling to a media company in France to distribute content or wherever. I'm willing to bet very few markets is Bellator sold separately on its own.


A sale may fix some of this, may lead to more growth, may lead to nothing in 5 years, who knows. All I know is we seen the Coker/Viacom Bellator show now for quite a few years and its pretty stale overall. Sure they are the number 2, but I don't hear much about Bellator being involved in signing the 3rd ranked fighter in the UFC who is 25 and has a great career ahead of him. Bellator name comes up mostly when the UFC is done with said fighter for whatever reasons(usually age, ran their course in the UFC, etc). Rarely are they ever in play for the better fighters under the UFC banner or any orgs banner for that part. I think what fans wish was there was better #2 that was a real option for fighters to shop themselves with and right now it seems like very few fighters have that option. Most are basically left taking whatever the UFC offers them. None of this will ever change under Bellator's current ownership.
 
WWE just sold to Endeavor for $9 billion.

The Lakers are worth nearly $6 billion.

The Cowboys are worth $8 billion.

Bellator isn’t near any of those when it comes to worth.
 
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$500m will already be very high
$300-400m is more likely
 
WWE just sold to Endeavor for $9 billion.

The Lakers are worth nearly $6 billion.

The Cowboys are worth $8 billion.

Bellator isn’t near any of those when it comes to worth.

Then come up with a source that says they are not worth that amount.
 
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