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LOL Burns was fighting Belal injured my ass.
Stop making sad excuses.
Belal INJURED him.
Belal Muhammad makes a good argument.
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LOL Burns was fighting Belal injured my ass.
Stop making sad excuses.
Belal INJURED him.
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Why say “never”? Who knows what the future holds.
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Uriah Hall injured Weidman too
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As opposed to Usman fighting 36 year old Masvidal 2x?
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Right, he's just had "incidental" wins over almost a third of the current rankings
There's almost no one in UFC history who has done everything they were supposed to up to this point and still didn't get the nod towards being booked for a title shot moreso than Belal
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Usman clearly isn't the GOAT WW tho. GSP is.
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Nobody hates Belal because he's a Muslim. What kind of logic is that? Do you and fellow Muslims have a victim complex going on or sum?
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Gr8 b8 m8, r8 8/8
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Luque was too 5 when he beat him. Wonderboy put a stellar performance less than one year ago. Brady was undefeated and supposed to steamroll belal. Burns was injured during the fight not before. All very good wins all ranked.
Who does Colby beat that is worthy of note? 40yo journeyman masvidal ? 38yo more than washed up coming from 2 losses Woodley and Lawler ? undersized RDA who took him down ? 40yo Maia ? Oh wait he had 2 losses against Usman ! wow two losses ! And be finished max griffin ! Unbelievable. Jon Jonesque in his record
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more because he's an Arab. Even more because he's a Palestinian
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dont bring religion into it. he's an unlikable cornball personality with a fighting style thats as interesting as a dissertation on wallpaper.
he deserves a title shot based on his wins, but lets not pretend its Islam that makes him boring and cringy. he does that himself.
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TJ fought and lost his belt in a VERY closely contested fight to Dom.
What happened after that?
Cruz 'defended' against 1 fight win streak, 37-year old Faber; while TJ fought 7 fight win streak, was already promised multiple title shots, perrenial #1 contender Assuncao.
Cruz then continued his dumb "TAM" feud by taking on #6 ranked, best win is Thomas Almeida, Cody Garbrandt; while TJ fought #2 ranked, surging contender John Lineker.
Sometimes, champions have storylines and challengers are doing the grunt work of the division. Like if Usman has to do 2 completely undeserved rematches, and then maybe gets one himself, while another guy has to beat 3 top-5 opponents and still not get a title shot for it.
Having given you that to process, I'll reference another post I've made on the subject.
We often judge champs by number of defenses, but that's probably not too fair, because you usually become a contender in the first place by beating ranked guys. So by the time you win the belt and become champ, you'll already have some section of the rankings already beaten. (Of course, the rankings are always moving, so you can compile a bunch of wins, but how many stay current shows how fewer challengers you have right now in front of you)
Now, I don't think Belal beats Usman and Leon in his next two fights. I figure the likelihood is extremely low. BUT I also thought he was gonna lose nearly every fight he's had since Leon, and that's not happened yet. So let's take a look at the ranked wins Belal would have if he does become champ, compared to the current ranked wins of all the champs.
Heavyweight - Jon Jones
1 ranked win (special case, straight to the shot)
Light HW - Let's say both Jiri and Hill to be fair
Jiri - 2 Hill - 1
Middleweight - Strickland
4 ranked wins
Welterweight - Edwards
2 ranked wins (3 if you count RDA, who is ranked at LW, even though he's been WW his last 2 fights)
Lightweight - Islam
3 ranked wins (4 including Volk)
Featherweight - Volkanovski
3 ranked wins (But Zombie only recently retired)
Bantamweight - Sugar Mallet
2 ranked wins
Flyweight - Pantoja
5 ranked wins
Women's FW - Grasso
3 ranked wins
Women's Straw - Zhang
3 ranked wins (But probably should be 4 with Tecia if she wasn't unranked for coming down with that common injury we call "a baby")
If Belal makes his way to champ, he will have:
6 ranked wins
Meaning, he'd basically have already gotten a stronger hold over his own division than every champ today.
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So, feel free to question whether or not I'm b8'ing, but I'll tell ya this: You might think it's wrong, but my "b8'ing" feels so right.
By Colby-fan logic, Luque was the backup on Usman-Covington 2, and so was provably the next contender when Belal beat him.
Coulda fooled me. They get some of the most undue hate around here
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Fuck off with such pathetic cope. Belal injured Burns, and Burns wasn't doing well before the injury anyways. Belal did beat all those guys fair and square.
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Except Tony was scheduled for multiple interim title fights, which IS a championship fight when the champ isn't available: Firstly at 9 wins, when he beat a bunch of ok people, #9 Thomson, #6 Barboza, and #2 RDA. Then booked again for the interim when that fight fell through, and beat #7 Kevin Lee to become the interim champ, but was stripped for injury. Then beat #8 Pettis and #4 Cowboy and then was booked for the undisputed title, which fell through, so he got another interim shot.
So he was getting chances, despite only ever needing to dip his toe into the top 5 of his division once before each time, as opposed to the 3 times Belal has.
No, see, Belal getting rocked after Edwards poked him in the eye the first time is because Belal is bad and had nothing for him, so that fight's basically a loss for Belal; while Burns looking bad after Belal injured him is because of the inexplicable and completely forgivable injury alone, so that fight's basically a no contest. It's perfect logic. No holes whatsoever
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Rematch with Geoff Neal, who beat him last time.
Him becoming champ is a big if, and It would be like next summer if it did happen, and then there's Shavkat, Islam coming up for a champ/champ fight, then who knows what the rankings will even look like by then? Khamzat won't still be in the rankings, wonderboy will probably be out of the top 10, Garry could climb into the mix.
I'm not sure Belal beats Leon or Colby to become champ, but certainly if he did, and beat Usman before, then Shavkat, then Islam, then yeah, he'd be in goat discussions, but let's not get ahead of ourselves and start tallying wins he hasn't even had.
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-Guys like Luque and Brady aren't going to be much of a factor in determining a GOAT.
-Wonderboy is still pretty decent against non grapplers like Neal and Luque, but his TDD seems to have progressively gotten worse with age.
-The Burns injury was a complete fluke. Nice TDD by Belal tho.
-Nobody has ever said Colby is the WW GOAT
