Beginner heavyweight bag gloves

200s should be good, extra wrapping around the knuckles. Or like Shihtzu said get a pair of NG-2s from winning and wrap those with your current 180s.
 
StRatoCastR said:
200s should be good, extra wrapping around the knuckles. Or like Shihtzu said get a pair of NG-2s from winning and wrap those with your current 180s.
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Going to order them at the same time! I am so excited! New gear! Like a kid at christmas!
 
getting new gear is always fun, the feeling never goes away lmao... I mean just look at all the gear I have.
 
Props to StRatoCastR for addressing the wraps, I came in to post about the very same. In addition to the length/brand/type of wraps you're using, one other thing I'd like to address is your wrapping technique -- there are multiple ways to wrap, with some methods focusing more on wrist support and others more on knuckle padding. Perhaps you can consider starting your wrapping with "ribboning" over the knuckles instead of with the thumb loop (it's what I personally do) if your knuckles are giving you more problems than your wrists.
 
I dont see how putting more wrap over the knuckles will do any good. It's not like the little cloth material will add much extra protection, it has next to 0 shock absorption, so there'll be next to no noticeable difference. It's just going to be a placebo.

I also think TS is under the impression that bigger gloves always = better protection, which is not the case. Compared to the 20oz Ringsides, I still think the 16oz Tokushus will protect the knuckles better because of how good the padding is, and of course their wrist support will be better. 20oz seems a little heavy, too, and I can see it being detrimental to technique when you're on the pads, despite your size. Hardly ever see top class heavyweights going above 16oz for their bagwork and pads.

Still, those Ringsides look decent, will probably protect okay and do the job. Do think there are better options available, i.e the Tokushu gloves, but most people who make threads asking this question, who have just started boxing are going to be happy with the majority of decent gloves, I think.

Dbirk007 said:
So, I should stay away from Grants? And yes, I was referring to the Rival d30's. Again, so much hype from "boxers" and they are 12oz gloves that you confirm are for beginners and spin-class chicks. See what I mean? Very confusing.
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I meant the RB40s are for beginners, not the d30s. The RB40s shouldnt be hyped by anyone, they're one of the cheapest in the Rival line (albeit, that's not so cheap).
 
lawmills2006 said:
Trololololol


P.s, just in case you aren't trolling. 14-16oz will do you fine killer. Your hands probably aren't conditioned after 4 months, so they wont be used to repetitive strain. Ice it, take a week off, and then stop being a puss. I have enlarged middle knuckles (and a sunken knuckle) from the damage they've accrued over the past 8 years, you get used to it.

Also, most heavy pro's use 16 for sparring, 14 for bag work.
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Not sure I understand your position here.

Are you just trying to be an a***hole or are you simply that ignorant?
 
Minowafanatic said:
I dont see how putting more wrap over the knuckles will do any good. It's not like the little cloth material will add much extra protection, it has next to 0 shock absorption, so there'll be next to no noticeable difference. It's just going to be a placebo.

I also think TS is under the impression that bigger gloves always = better protection, which is not the case. Compared to the 20oz Ringsides, I still think the 16oz Tokushus will protect the knuckles better because of how good the padding is, and of course their wrist support will be better. 20oz seems a little heavy, too, and I can see it being detrimental to technique when you're on the pads, despite your size. Hardly ever see top class heavyweights going above 16oz for their bagwork and pads.

Still, those Ringsides look decent, will probably protect okay and do the job. Do think there are better options available, i.e the Tokushu gloves, but most people who make threads asking this question, who have just started boxing are going to be happy with the majority of decent gloves, I think.

I meant the RB40s are for beginners, not the d30s. The RB40s shouldnt be hyped by anyone, they're one of the cheapest in the Rival line (albeit, that's not so cheap).
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I 100% agree ive talked about the absorption from wraps before being next to nothing, but if he is not wrapping up enough because his hand is so big and its not structurally intact and held well together you will have a slew of issues.

Which is why no adult uses 120 wraps or 108s. Too small. But you can argue "what do 180s do, they don't provide enough padding, they are just cloth."

I like to do a lot about 3 "Xs" on my hand, you need material to do that.

I think youd agree minow, I probably just didn't come across that way so you might have taken my post as longer wraps = more padding which I didn't mean, so I posted this response to clarify.

Also the ops coach suggested 20oz so who am I to argue? I think the ringsides will do good, Ive had the quad layered before, very good gloves.
 
Dbirk007 said:
I think I am going to go with the RINGSIDE HEAVY HITTER PRO QUAD LAYER SPARRING GLOVE 20oz. On light days, and to keep certain I am still using good form, I will throw on my current Rival RB40's 12oz. I really appreciate everyone's help...as time goes on, I hope I can be of help to others as well. Thank you ALL!! If you should ahve any other additional comments, please post them! BTW-one more thing...are all wraps created pretty equal? I currently use Ringside, but they are not as elastic as I thought they should be...but hey, what do I know!!?? LOL!
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I had these gloves and you can easily bottom out your knuckles when hitting the heavy bag. If you want 20oz, go with the Ring to Cage MiM Safety Strap. They are excellent. I have a pair of them in 22oz. BTW, they are great in 16oz as well, which is what I would get if I wanted something for the heavy bag.

BTW, I am a heavyweight like you and use mostly 16oz for the bag.

http://ringtocage.com/Deluxe-MiM-Foam-Sparring-Gloves-Safety-Strap-RC06SST.htm

Best of luck,
Gus
 
Yeah I basically linked the MiMs and the Ringsides
He cant go wrong with either to be honest.

Also Gus when are you going to move up to the 32 oz?:icon_twis
 
Minowafanatic said:
I dont see how putting more wrap over the knuckles will do any good. It's not like the little cloth material will add much extra protection, it has next to 0 shock absorption, so there'll be next to no noticeable difference. It's just going to be a placebo.

I also think TS is under the impression that bigger gloves always = better protection, which is not the case. Compared to the 20oz Ringsides, I still think the 16oz Tokushus will protect the knuckles better because of how good the padding is, and of course their wrist support will be better. 20oz seems a little heavy, too, and I can see it being detrimental to technique when you're on the pads, despite your size. Hardly ever see top class heavyweights going above 16oz for their bagwork and pads.

Still, those Ringsides look decent, will probably protect okay and do the job. Do think there are better options available, i.e the Tokushu gloves, but most people who make threads asking this question, who have just started boxing are going to be happy with the majority of decent gloves, I think.

I meant the RB40s are for beginners, not the d30s. The RB40s shouldnt be hyped by anyone, they're one of the cheapest in the Rival line (albeit, that's not so cheap).
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Just sharing my personal experience and my gym mates' experiences. Different strokes for different folks.
 
StRatoCastR said:
I 100% agree ive talked about the absorption from wraps before being next to nothing, but if he is not wrapping up enough because his hand is so big and its not structurally intact and held well together you will have a slew of issues.

Which is why no adult uses 120 wraps or 108s. Too small. But you can argue "what do 180s do, they don't provide enough padding, they are just cloth."

I like to do a lot about 3 "Xs" on my hand, you need material to do that.
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That's true, I figured you meant making a knuckle guard from the wrap.

Also, do think there's a place for 20oz+ gloves used by a heavyweight, just wouldn't think that size is good for the gloves youre going to be doing all your mitt and bagwork in.
 
StRatoCastR said:
regarding which aspect of the post Haru?
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Regarding ribboning the wrap over the knuckles. It at least makes a difference for me, and it makes a difference for my gym mates, but maybe none of us punch that hard -- we all came up under a nak muay renowned for his kicks, so we take after him fight style-wise (although one of my buddies moved on to train under a famed Thai puncher and still swears by ribboning the wrap). If it matters, we use a six-layer ribbon over the knuckles before we use 3 "X's" that pass between each finger, following by three more wrap-arounds over and under the knuckles -- I'll be damned if it doesn't provide cushioning haha.

Also, IIRC, the guy on YouTube that teaches how to wrap with the Le Roy wraps also advocated ribonning over the knuckles, FWIW. :P
 
Ive typed this before but i like u haru. Wraps are purely for stability. Cloth provides 0 absorption. Which is why people use ng2, sponges etc. think of those like jumping on an air matress the air doesnt go towards you or downard rather out the sides which is why it feels good it disperses.

Now the reason you go over the knuckles more than once is for stablity and locking your knuckles in place. Ribboning does nothing watch any pro trainer they dont do it.

The wraps lock everything in. The gloves do all the absorbing.

Ng2s help tho!
 
GHVA226 said:
I am actually using 34oz on the left hand and 8oz on the right. I want to strengthen my hook and condition my right knuckles. Come on man :icon_lol:
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Oh I figured you manned up on the right hand and did 4oz:wink:
 
StRatoCastR said:
Ive typed this before but i like u haru. Wraps are purely for stability. Cloth provides 0 absorption. Which is why people use ng2, sponges etc. think of those like jumping on an air matress the air doesnt go towards you or downard rather out the sides which is why it feels good it disperses.

Now the reason you go over the knuckles more than once is for stablity and locking your knuckles in place. Ribboning does nothing watch any pro trainer they dont do it.

The wraps lock everything in. The gloves do all the absorbing.

Ng2s help tho!
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Thanks for taking the time to reshare this info with me. Maybe the ribboning is purely a psychological thing for me, I don't know haha; guess it's time to play around with wrapping techniques again.
 
Not saying its wrong bro if it works it works! I dont want to change ur mind, never risk injury bro keep doing what ur doing
 
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