Movies Batman 89/Returns VS Batman Begins/Dark Knight

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  • Burton - 89/Returns

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Y'all talking about casting choices and failing to mention Pat Hingle being cast as Gordon. Nolan nailed that shit with GOAT-Oldman as Jim in his Bat-films.
 
GoodBadHBK said:
When Nolans Trilogy came out it changed the game/genre. Batman was more "realistic" instead of "cartoony" (not a real word) like the Burton films. However, I have grown to like the Burton films more than the Nolan films on rewatch. With the Nolan films I find more faults with the films where as the Burton ones I find them more entertaining and exactly what Batman movies should be.

I was always one of those that claimed "The Dark Knight is the best superhero movie ever" but i dont think that anymore. In fact I only really care for the Joker causing mayhem scene/getting arrested/breaking out of jail. To me that 30 mins or so is perfection and everything else is decent at best.

Out of the 4 movies i always find myself enjoying Returns the most with my only complaint being how Michelle turns into catwoman. Other then that it has some good laughs, good action, a great cast and it ends perfectly.

Im sure ill be in the minority but give me Burton over Nolan.
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I like cartoons.
 
Wow a lot closer than I would have thought. Very interesting poll, thanks.
 
Tough one. I feel like 89 BM is better than Begins, but DK is better than Returns...

Trying to aggragate the score as a tag team match is tough though.

Because each "losing" movie has some great high points
 
Burtons film played it safe bc it was the first real big budget comic book movie in years and years since the 80”s Supermarket over a decade earlier so they kind of just made a simple story where they made the Joker the killer of Wayne’s parents which was for the average viewer ( it’s kind of dumb ) bc there’s to many coincidences that tie Joker and Batman together and Joker could have definitely been more crazy mentally unstable he came off as a pretty rational villain considering what he’s actually like etc etc .

That being said Burtons film was solid and a lot of hype and media helped the film out I remember ppl getting Batman logo haircuts he definitely brought the comic book movies back by not ruining the movie .

But Nolan’s films have just to much quality and doesn’t feel like a soap opera set in comparison i actually prefer Keaton as Batman which shows how movie magic can work bc he couldn’t fight his way out of a wet paper bag in real life but overall the better films are Nolan’s .

Batman Returns is the best Burton one I’d rank it somewhere in between Id have to watch it again , the Super Nintendo game was great .
 
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I take the combo of Nolan's but my favorite is probably Batman 89. Maybe b/c of nostalgia. The style and feel was just so much fun to me.
 
Jacks straight up mass murdering Joker over Heath's overly complex convoluted Joker

The two passenger ferry conundrum vs mass poisonings and gas attacks?

HLs Joker was well acted and an iconic role, but Nolan trying to be too smart for his own good hurt the character IMO.
 
The Burton films were much better imo. Nolan made a cartoon too, he just didn't know it. Ninjas, school busses driving out the front door of banks into traffic and being left alone, a football field blowing up without the national guard rushing in... his movies are "realistic" presuming everyone in the world acts like an idiot.. Burton has the right tone, you feel like you're visiting a whole other world.
 
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tuff 1 for sure, prolly nolan tho. i dont know tho, batman returns prolly my fav. Batman.
 
Aegon Spengler said:
The Burton films were much better imo. Nolan made a cartoon too, he just didn't know it. Ninjas, school busses driving out of banks into traffic and being left alone, a football field blowing up without the national guard rushing in... his movies are "realistic" presuming everyone in the world acts like an idiot.. Burton has the right tone, you feel like you're visiting a whole other world.
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Is there a term for movies like this that try to play it super serious and grounded in reality but somehow come off more stupid and unrealistic than say Burton’s Batman movies?

If not there needs to be haha
 
This is a difficult poll because of how good one Nolan movie was and how boring the other was. If I had to rank them, it would be:

The Dark Knight
Batman
Batman Returns
Batman Begins
a violent anal assault by a buffalo
The Dark Knight Rises

Given the disparity in quality between the four movies being compared, I'd say it's a draw.
 
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Unpopular opinion but Burtons ones were better especially the first two. They not only captured the spirit of the books better, they were also far more entertaining and memorable. I found Nolan's Batman's dreary and boring, and massively over hyped because its Nolan. They were also full of plot holes are had worse writing than the Burton ones.

Nickolson's Joker was also far more entertaining than the generic psycho Joker, played by Ledger imo. He was charming, funny, and psychotic. I could watch him over and over again. Ledger was boring.

Nolan's Batmobile was also laughably stupid and impractical, just a big tank, while Burtons sleek and stylish Batmobile was exactly what you would expect Batman to drive.
 
Ibm said:
These are entirely different. Burtons was a entertaining goofy series, Nolans was a serious thriller.
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Yet Nolan's had the goofier writing and more plot holes. batman extracting finger prints from a shattered bullet in a wall? Falling off the top of a skyscraper into the ground without being injured Bending rifles with his bare hands? Joker getting caught and locked up in a police station yet magically escapes without explanation? A cruise ship loaded up with 100s of cannisters of explosives and nobody noticed? You could go on and on.
 
StewDogg11 said:
Is there a term for movies like this that try to play it super serious and grounded in reality but somehow come off more stupid and unrealistic than say Burton’s Batman movies?

If not there needs to be haha
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Pseudo intellectual? His Batman movies have some of the dumbest writing I have ever seen but apparently because everyone plays it so dead serious, everyone thinks his movies were so serious. Batman taking the fall at the end for Dent's murders was also totally pointless, when it could have just been blamed on the Joker who had spent the whole movie murdering everyone.
 
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