Bas Rutten big DVDs of combat vs Mario Sperry Vale Tudo 1-3 series?

[Deleted member 56619]

Ive seen a lot of talk about both sets of instructionals, Bas Ruttens and Mario Sperrys. I was wondering If you were to review them both, side by side, what are the pros and cons of one vs the other? Im lookin to pick a set up but can not afford both and i cant seem to find why one is better than the other. Everyone seems to love both sets but is there anything that really sets one apart from the other? Thanks for the help guys.

 

[Adino]

I have never seen any of Sperry's stuff but I love all of Bas' stuff!!!

 

[Valgarv]

I have never seen any of Sperry's stuff but I love all of Bas' stuff!!!

Ditto

 

[Matt Thornton]

Bas' DVDs if you know a lot of the basics but are still kind of a beginner.

Mario's material if you've never taken a class or only been to 1-2.

 

[phenomfan1529]

i agree with iceman. how long have you been training?

ive only seen mario sperry's takedown instructional. its ok, but i liked randy couture's better.

 

[Bobby Jacobsen]

I have MS VT 1 and 2 and Bas dvd's. Marios is better for a newer person (but with 2and 3 stuff for more experienced as well). His takedown stuff and standup stuff are almost useless though. The ground stuff is top shelf.

Bas has a ton of moves shown in kore of a catalog, not reallly set up into an organized gameplan (like Sperry's). His stand up is basic but awesome and he has some great drills.

 

[Bobby Jacobsen]

If I had to choose 1 or the othe I would go with Sperry's. Forgot to add that.

 

[Shooto Panama]

Bas Series is more complete but he doesn`t teach anything about pass guard.

Mario`s series is good because everything is linked: Takedowns, Passing guard, Top, Bottom, etc.


I believe both are good and both offer you great knowledge. However, Bas is more like freestyle grappling in the opposite side of Sperry more Jiu-Jitsu approach.

 

[pop8]

If you want good striking, better takedowns and learning escapes from bad positions, I would go with Bas. If you are looking for solid moves with a game plan that is mainly offense-oriented and helps you utilize a non-conventional jiu-jitsu game, then Sperry's your man. I like Sperry's more because I train jiu-jitsu and I like how there is an overall gameplan that eliminates the confusion between submission grappling and vale tudo.

 

[trianglejitsu]

I wouldn't really go with either. There are better sets out there now.

For fundamentals in grappling I'd start with Roy Dean BJJ Blue Belt Requirements and No Gi Essentials. There's a lot to be said, particularly for a beginner of learning from someone who is clear and articulate in the language of insruction. Roy Harris is also good, but he speaks so quietly that it's somewhat hard to understand him still.

If you're going more advanced, Luis Gutierrez's So Flo series is great, and again the advantage of having someone who's articulate and expressive in the language of instruction is obvious.

While that only covers grappling, if you're considerring Sperry that covers you just as well, and it's generally best to get instruction from people who are experts in their particular area.

For Boxing, Rodney King's Crazy Monkey and Quantum Boxing series are great, although while it's targetted at beginners, he talks more like Gutierrez and it takes some getting used to his South African accent. I haven't come across anyone who's as clear and articulate as Roy Dean, particularly for basics, when it comes to striking.

I haven't seen Bas' DVDs of combat, but the impression I get is they're just a massive collection of techniques, and where Bas really is best is actually with his workout tapes. Sperry has a good selection of information, and before Roy Harris, Michael Jen and Roy Dean were on the scene it was actually pretty good, but there's simply newer stuff now that's better to get.