Bag work vid, the chubby guy high kick demo

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  1. ssullivan80

    ssullivan80 see....what had happened was

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    Alright, so I think it's time to get off the fast food diet..... Been nursing a lower back injury and knee injuries for the last eight months and have been limited on my ability to train, particularly throwing kicks. Finally got the "ok" from the Dr that I could start begin more impact intensive training (i.e, kicks), so I decided to get off the couch and start throwing some kicks. I have been doing a fair amount of boxing, but this clip is the first time I have been able to really throw a kick at the bag in several months (vs shadow kicking). I definitely feel a bit sluggish transitioning into my kicks, feel like my hips are still a bit behind the kicks as well, even more so on my lead leg. Either way, advice, critique, criticism and fat jokes are always well received........ :wink: I know I comment on plenty of other peoples vids, so in being a good sport........ here ya go.


    Little bit of DE bag work at the beginning, also been toying around with a more kyokushin style high kick (Feitosa inspired), or "brazilian kick"....... or whatever :confused: Either way, you'll see it a few times throughout the vid.

     
  2. SummerStriker

    SummerStriker Black Belt

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    Good job working against after an injury. I recently went through something like that. You will shake the dust off in no time.
     
  3. Geordie "Shadow" Munro

    Geordie "Shadow" Munro Amateur Fighter

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    I know how you feel TS, I recently had a few injuries (without going into too much detail).

    Looking good though man. Keep up the good work!
     
  4. Bay Area

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    TS: Would you say your style is boxing with MT kicks?
     
  5. Bennosuke

    Bennosuke Blue Belt

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    For the most part your kicks look great and will get better with simple practice. With the brazilian kick, I prefer to get the knee up a little higher before turning it over. It sells the technique a little better as a push kick and gives the opponent a little more time to react by dropping their hands.

    One thing you may want to practice is throwing a kick following a same side punch. You did a lot of L hook R kick or R Cross? L Kick. Mixing it up with some say R cross R kick will be good both in terms of combos for sparring and getting you used to throwing the kicks with your weight in different positions. The best kickers can transfer their weight from different positions to throw the same technique.

    Hope you find some of this useful. Keep up the good work, and stop fishing for compliments. Your definitely not fat. :cool:
     
  6. Bennosuke

    Bennosuke Blue Belt

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    Please delete this post... my bad
     
  7. ssullivan80

    ssullivan80 see....what had happened was

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    Actually quite the opposite. I learned to box as a kid from my father (military boxing coach), but both myself and my 2 brothers actually competed in MT and Euro rules kickboxing. Though that was more than 10yrs ago, I was a kicker first and foremost and relied far more on my kicks to do damage than my hands. My hands were plenty quick, but I lacked the boxing refinement. I scored points with my hands but did damage with my legs. I have been working far more on my boxing recently and have done so for the last few years, I definitely have a lot more confidence in my hands now. I wish I would of put more emphasis on my boxing in my "younger days", hindsight is always 20-20.

    Here ya go, this is a clip taken probably 5-6 yrs ago. A few years after I'd stopped competing, and about 50pds lighter. But my "style" was far more kick oriented, but not "pure" mt as most of my training was done in the EU and Holland.

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    Appreciate the insight brotha, your right, my "brazilian kick" definitely should come up a bit higher before turning over...... in order to really "sell it". Gotta get the hips loosened back up. Your correct also in that I didn't do much same side kick n punch. I think a lot of that is probably because I really am just trying to get the transition more fluid, still feels forced. I also think that all the boxing I have been doing has got me more naturally transferring my weight back n forth, hip to hip and really more "set" in my stance vs. punching and kicking off the same side requires being a bit taller and lighter in your stance (more on the balls of feet), at least for me that's the case. But nonetheless, definitely something I do intend on working on once I get more comfortable throwing kicks again.
     
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  8. KounterPunch

    KounterPunch Purple Belt

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    The only thing I don't like in your boxing is the way you still throw that rear uppercut(?).
    It's almost like the up jab but without its inbuilt defense or offense.

    :)


    Everything else looks great . Shoulder roll looked awkward but might still save you because you're not constantly doing it.
     
  9. PeterPain

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    Ah think I've found it. You do MT kicks but with a KB stance.
    It's nice but I'm not a fan of the pivot. Your torso is faceing the bag on some kicks and you don't always turn the lead footh for a nice pivot.

    Could be the stance or the style.
    You always have your lead pointing your target.
    Looking sharp tho.
     
  10. ssullivan80

    ssullivan80 see....what had happened was

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    It's funny you'd mention that, It's a punch that I have actually used very effectively. I actually developed that punch sparring against good tuck n roll boxers, via a suggestion/tip from sinister on a thread I posted a long time ago (that i still regard as one of the most valuable insights I ever gained from Sherdog). I was primarily a 1-2 boxer and was having real difficulty against guys with a good tuck n roll because they are very difficult to catch clean with straight shots or establish a jab against without being able to create that "pause" in their movement.......

    Either way, in developing that rear UC I started learning to throw a "soft UC". I throw that shot off my rear foot and it's really a shot I use as a set-up or defensively. Basically the mechanics are more like an UC to the body, only I throw it up high. Either way, I have trained with several very experienced boxing coaches and it's essentially 50/50 on opinions regarding that shot. I've been both strongly encouraged and strongly discouraged to use it. Nonetheless, it is one of those punches that really works well for me, against both experienced and novice guys......... until that changes........ eh, if it aint broke no need to fix it (as there is plenty that is in need of fixing).

    I appreciate your insight brotha, thanks..... and yes, that shoulder roll is still something that needs a lot of work. Sometimes it feels really natural, other times not....... One of those techniques that really is just gonna take many more rounds and probably few trips to the canvas to get proficient at and make the right adjustments.
     
  11. KounterPunch

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    From my point of view (and i my primary defense is rolling shots) that uppercut wouldn't do much except hit me on the shoulder in addition to giving me a free home to counter on . That same shot thrown with the LEFT hand is a bitch though (see Hatton vs Mayweather).............however ...........my primal rule as to whether a technique is good or not is simple........if you're making it work on your peers then it's good enough. Even if it's "wrong" , you're right.
     
  12. SAAMAG

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    Sure it would. Suuuure it would.
     
  13. KounterPunch

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  14. ssullivan80

    ssullivan80 see....what had happened was

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    That's exactly what that shot is intended to do and the ideal reaction I expect when I throw it (opponent to try to counter/come back with a right hand, if orth)......... Why I throw it so heavy on that rear foot.......

    Here a couple short clips I could find. First against an orth guy with the rear UC, then against a SP with the lead UC, same principle either way.




    See above, but yes, essentially that is how i use it (without going into detailed explanation). As for a Cuban UC, not really sure what your referencing. IMO, what makes an UC a Cuban UC is when a Cuban guy is throwing it....... An UC's an UC.......

    Not sure how "tight" that bag is hung per se, but it's the smaller version of the DE bag and isn't hung to have a whole lot of movement and is intended to have faster action, so i guess you'd say its hung fairly tight.........
     
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  15. Nuclearlandmine

    Nuclearlandmine Shreddin' Double Yellow Card

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    Wait, is the soft UC is the one where you mainly throw to gain an advantageous angle on your opponent, kind of like the Cuban uppercut?

    Oh, and how tight is your DE bag btw?
     
  16. ssullivan80

    ssullivan80 see....what had happened was

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    response below brotha
     
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    Alright saw it. Ah sorry about the Cuban uppercut thing. I got it from Sinister :redface: it got the name because Sinister told me how often guys from Cuban use that type of uppercut with the same objective as your soft uppercut really well. I just kinda get on with the terminology, that's all :D
     
  18. ssullivan80

    ssullivan80 see....what had happened was

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    no apology necessary man!
     
  19. Frode Falch

    Frode Falch Gold Belt Professional Fighter

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    Look good ssullivan. Just remember: no injury is a reason for eating junk food.

    :)
     
  20. nomoremondays

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    Liked it! Thanks for putting up.
     

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