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Babies are already racist by nine months old, study finds

RIPWarrior said:
Parents should not be allowed to raise their children. Only white people are racist. The state should intervene for the greater good of humanity.

People of color are born oppressed and victimized by white supremacy. They can't be racist.
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People who garner wealth and success for themselves evidently don't deserve that wealth and success but they do deserve to be disliked.

 
MiniCraque said:
Nowhere did the researchers associate this with "prejudice". The study isn't about making people feel bad about themselves, it's about identifying just how deep-rooted racism can be. At a point in your life where you're learning the most basic parts of being a functional human being (moving, communicating, etc etc), you're also learning to associate the color of the skin of people around you with comfort and safety. You can relax, nobody is saying these babies OR their parents are awful human beings.
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Do you think anything should be done ?
 
This study is weird (I didn't read the second one). http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/cdev.12798/full

But an interesting thing to take away is that when the adult's gaze is completely reliable in predicting the appearance of an animal, the child shows no bias. And when the adult's gaze is completely unreliable, the child also shows no bias. Only when the adult's gaze is 50% reliable does the child appear to start using familiarity to determine whether to follow the adult's gaze. Bias towards familiarity is predicted by uncertainty. Unbiased behavior is predicted by both certainty and randomness.


But I'll predict a Sherdog bias- a number of people who always say wavy gravy social science is worthless will grab onto this study like it's a piece of the true cross.
 
Yeah, we can all pretend otherwise but "racism" in the sense described in the OP is natural. The first time a white kid sees a black person or vice versa, its a shock and its instinctive to be wary of something that seems a little different.

Its not nefarious and its absurd if anyone says it is.
 
STEVEN SEAGOLD said:
Sensitivity and anti-racism training are new/current solutions that many sectors of employment have chosen to go down.

"Sensitivity training is a type of group training that focuses on helping organizational members to develop a better awareness of group dynamics and their roles in the group. The training often addresses issues such as gender and multicultural sensitivity as well as sensitivity towards the disabled"

It could have great application and effect in kindergarten/pre school format. Primary schools and high schools already do some form of this.
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Racism - prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

Unless you can have dialogue with the baby then who can you tell that it prefers the same race face because the other races are inferior to its own?????

Buy a fucking dictionary, troll.
 
RIPWarrior said:
Do you think anything should be done ?
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I think parents should be responsible enough to not reinforce this behavior upon their children. Before they reach adulthood they're going to realize not every primal reaction of a human being is consistent with or acceptable in life in society as we know it. That means not automatically antagonizing someone of a different ethnicity and a bunch of different stuff: not forcing yourself on a woman because you think she wants it, not screwing over other people to protect yourself...

Not every basic instinct is productive or worth pursuing. Learning to rise above that is what differentiates us from animals.
 
What if the child had a different race nanny since birth? It seems obvious that if they had same race parents and siblings, likely same race grand parents and aunts and uncles as well that it would naturally have nurtured affinity to people who look like they people who've cared for them. It makes sense as a hardwired survival instinct.
 
Well my Canadian comrades, the solution to this societal ill is obvious: mandatory unconcious bias training for everyone, more diversity officers (in fact entire diversity departments), more anti-racism directorates with larger budgets.
 
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And this goes for most things I see posted in the WR
 
ShoelessRye said:
What if the child had a different race nanny since birth? It seems obvious that if they had same race parents and siblings, likely same race grand parents and aunts and uncles as well that it would naturally have nurtured affinity to people who look like they people who've cared for them. It makes sense as a hardwired survival instinct.
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My thinking is along this line as well.

What if the baby comes from a mixed background? Will it also be racist/prejudiced against one of its parents? Absurd.

I didn't read the study btw.
 
ShoelessRye said:
What if the child had a different race nanny since birth? It seems obvious that if they had same race parents and siblings, likely same race grand parents and aunts and uncles as well that it would naturally have nurtured affinity to people who look like they people who've cared for them. It makes sense as a hardwired survival instinct.
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The main goal of the study was to determine how early in a child's development would these tendencies show themselves, not whether or not it would happen at all. If anything, infants who had little or no contact with individuals from other races showing distrust or outright fear towards other races was a premise for the whole thing.
 
MiniCraque said:
The main goal of the study was to determine how early in a child's development would these tendencies show themselves, not whether or not it would happen at all. If anything, infants who had little or no contact with individuals from other races showing distrust or outright fear towards other races was THE AGENDA for the whole thing.
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Madmick said:
How many fucking times are they going to do this study?

This shit was old back when I was in college. Better link than the OP:
https://www.utoronto.ca/news/racial-bias-may-begin-babies-six-months-u-t-research-reveals

I don't know where the study's authors got the notion that this started in pre-school. Maybe that's where it is first significantly developed, but that's not where it starts, and we already knew that a long time ago.
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Funny I am between reading this and listening to Jordan Peterson on on Rogan, and he talks EXACTLY ABOUT THIS

Cliffs/ jordan talks about how social psychology is bullshit and its methods are appalling. Then goes into talking about this exact subject as evidence.

Saying that white babies are quicker to respond to pictures of white people positively than pictures of black babies.
And this is racism.
But, this delay does not conclude that it is racism and could simply be the NOVELTY EFFECT. White babies are more familiar with white faces and render there feelings faster. Black faces are not as familiar and thus the Novelty Effect

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Humans are TRIBAL by nature. We naturally see things through a "them v us" dichotomy.

As a baby, of course you are going to trust your family members more than strangers. And of course you are going to trust strangers that look somewhat like your family members more than those that don't.
 
Seano said:
Yeah, we can all pretend otherwise but "racism" in the sense described in the OP is natural. The first time a white kid sees a black person or vice versa, its a shock and its instinctive to be wary of something that seems a little different.

Its not nefarious and its absurd if anyone says it is.
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This post reminds of a story a friend of mine was telling me. He was born in a very rural part of Michigan where there are no POC. He was telling me this story where he and his family took a trip down to Detroit to visit some relatives.

He was only around 4 years old and when they got to the city they stopped at a store. There was a Black family ahead of them in line. He said, "Look Dad... Indians!" He wasn't raised by bigots or anything he just never saw black people before.
 
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