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B sample tested in a day, A sample took 3 weeks?

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Clue me in, what happened here? Why wasn't that A sample tested June 17th, why did it take three weeks to submarine 200 but the B sample was done immediately?
 
It's extremely simple

The first sample is screened for everything

The second sample is tested for what they found in the other one
 
peacemaster said:
It's extremely simple

The first sample is screened for everything

The second sample is tested for what they found in the other one
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I'm also certain they'd speed up the process on testing secondary samples after an initial pop, as there's a bit of urgency to it by that point.
 
peacemaster said:
It's extremely simple

The first sample is screened for everything

The second sample is tested for what they found in the other one
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to put some dye and reactant in a few more bottles takes approx. 1 minute more than to put it in only two. And then to finish testing its all the same, whether its 2 or 200. So no, it makes no sense.

nothing here makes sense. Excepct laziness and bad management. Not, abhorrent management. If you need more ppl hire more ppl. if you need more servers buy more servers, if you need more room, rent more offices. FFS, saying its more complicated/time taxing, is like saying Im too lazy to bother expanding my operation,Id rather let it takes 10x more time for my clients.
 
TTech said:
to put some dye and reactant in a few more bottles takes approx. 1 minute more than to put it in only two. And then to finish testing its all the same, whether its 2 or 200. So no, it makes no sense.
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It's a bit more complicated and rigorous of a test than what you just described, I'm afraid
 
Fighters are tested randomly and their samples are sent to the labs for analysis. There is no rush for random sampling. Once a test comes back positive they can simply expedite the 2nd test to verify the first test was valid.
 
My guesses would be:

1) As above, you're testing for fewer things the 2nd time

2) They can test these things in 1 day, but they usually don't because there's a backlog. Once somebody's A sample fails, then they prioritize the B.
 
TTech said:
of course it is, but in essence thats it.
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if it was that simple all results would come back the same day, and it wouldn't be an expensive process, either.

Shit like this is serious, and lengthy, and labs will have to follow a pretty thorough set of protocols to make sure samples aren't tainted or damaged, are tested properly, or a million other things. Not only does ALL medical testing take time, they also have a responsibility to the athletes to take their time and do it properly.
 
DOMMA said:
Fighters are tested randomly and their samples are sent to the labs for analysis. There is no rush for random sampling. Once a test comes back positive they can simply expedite the 2nd test to verify the first test was valid.
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first mistake right there. Why is there no rush. Its ufc 200.

neil_totally said:
if it was that simple all results would come back the same day, and it wouldn't be an expensive process, either.

Shit like this is serious, and lengthy, and labs will have to follow a pretty thorough set of protocols to make sure samples aren't tainted or damaged, are tested properly, or a million other things. Not only does ALL medical testing take time, they also have a responsibility to the athletes to take their time and do it properly.
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dont you understand that it doesnt take that long to test it. The actual procedure doesnt take not nearly that long. And if the reason is queues or resources, its on them.
 
I blame the UFC as well. You have to make it very clear to the other bald guy that we need results no later then a week before the fights.
 
TTech said:
of course it is, but in essence thats it.
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i work in a lab and some test can take up to 5 days to get proper results. Such as a Biological oxygen Demand test/ BOD to test for anything bacteria can oxidize. Yet there are faster tests that can give you some immediate results like COD/chemical oxygen demand that show all chemicals that can be oxidized and that only takes me like 3-4 hours to do.

Yet consider sample, packaging and shipping times to a lab. And i don't know exactly what procedures they do and how many different tests. But it can be wayyy more than just using a dye and wasting a few minutes.

For a do winkler calibration, i have to dirst meassure the do with my metere, then add 2 reaagents and blend then settle then blend and settle for awhile.. Then once it's settled, i stablize it with sulfamic acid, and mix until everyhting is fully disoolved.. from there i transfer 100 ml into a flask and titrate with sodium thiosulfate until it reaches a visually dilluted state. Then i add 2ml of startch solution and triate until clear, then math a little to get results.

Some other "quick" tests include stablizing it to a ph of 2 first, reaggents, ampules, baking at 105c for 2 hours. then cooling. then using a spectrum analzyer to read the general results that won't be as accurate as the full length test.

Procedures for more accurate results can be much longer and more complicated.
 
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