Movies AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR v.11

[chickenluver]

I think I estimated 2.1billion

I low balled it at 1.6-1.7 I believe.

IIRC the majority of voters thought it would make Avatar money.

 

[FyrFytr998]

Make them hand over all their cash?

<[analyzed}>
This man gets it.

 

[irish_thug]

I low balled it at 1.6-1.7 I believe.

IIRC the majority of voters thought it would make Avatar money.

I'll have to go back and check, but I think I went with avatar money

 

[KnightTemplar]

Think I called just north of two Billion.

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

No one cares and Clippy's just being nice.

Did you see this movie yet mister i-don't-care? What were your thoughts.

 

[PRIDEWASBETTER]

I said 1.8-1.9. Glad I was wrong.

 

[SSgt Dickweed]

My initial guess was 2.1 B, then voted 2.4. It would have made that if it weren't for Deadpool 2 and/or Solo contending.

 

[minute bull]

Did you see this movie yet mister i-don't-care? What were your thoughts.

Top five, top three? MCU film. I still have ANT-MAN at number one, but after that it's IW, GOTG/2 and RAGNAROK all up innat ace.

If I consider Thanos as the hero, then it still suffers from all the same MCU issues I've noticed -- film doesn't stand on its own, doesn't really end, and (if Thanos is the hero) the villain is just okay-ish -- but INFINITY WAR being the very least egregious of said issues. Thanos is magnificently realized, even though he dons the gauntlet on the wrong hand. Thor has never been better, even though he turns into Leonidas at one point.

Thor's finally got the right balance of arrogance, humor, and pathos. Black Maw would be the other shining standout. I really liked Dr. Strange's multiple attack; did not like his rah-rah cheerleader arm movements doing magick katas. The best line of the film was the low-key KO diss from Spiderman to Starlord re: FOOTLOOSE.

The Russos improved at direction and composing scenes. They're allowing more time for the camera to make love to close-ups and hero shots.

As for the issues. Although the movie totally leads into another film, it closes with a shaky but satisfactory emotional tenor. Usually MCU films feel like they simply pause until the next installment; conversely INFINITY WAR feels not only like it has something like closure (granted some audiences may not feel the same when such DEATTHHHHH is on the line) but it feels like something happened. It took 19 films of various and sometimes dreadful degrees of marginally less happening to culminate to a legit, but yanoooooo. Due to the previous films, the good guys took a backseat to Thanos and his quest and so their motivations and personalities localized in this film suffered. The film depends on you knowing these characters from before, and taken over the entire course there are some pretty great character arcs. Limited to this film it's a little choppy and uneven, with the GOTG dynamics being the glue that makes the heroes coalesce optically. The upshot, though, is the heroes are all pretty likeable right away. So is Thanos.

I think the snap could have been handled better but the films is still very, very cool.

All in all, earnestly entertaining.

I wish the MCU started at this level of story and direction proficiency and urgent pacing -- but, of course scaled back to the individual, human level that Marvelheads come to expect. I don't mean IRON MAN 1 must be of the same epic and mythic scale of INFINITY WAR (which is where the DCEU definitely should begin, with gods like Supes, Bats, & The Rest on Gilligan's Isle®). What I mean is the MCU in many places feels a bit loosey-goosey and lackadaisical -- unsure yet of what it really is and needs to convey. The pacing is more like a casual stroll with no real destination.

INFINITY WAR is a good example to follar of a tighter, more confined, streamlined story; feels like something weighty happens; and ends on a satisfying note (and not just a "press conference" exeunt).​

 

[Deleted member 110072]

I think I estimated 2.1billion

Not sure it will quite do that but I do suspect it will beat Force Awakens world wide.

 

[minute bull]

Getting into the importance of a film standing on its own, it sheds a different light on that $2b.

Already number 4! Buuuuut...

The difference between the top two and the remaining three is that aforementioned importance.

The latter three rely on years and years of cachet shored up by multiple preceding films. The top two films came from NOTHING. Sure we knew about the Titanic beforehand, but I discovered there are 43 films and television specials about the Titanic, maybe a handful of them are memorable to any degree, and just one is remembered by everyone -- which stood on top until the same guy came back and topped himself with another property that came out of nowhere. As much as haters would like to call it SPACE JAM, DANCES WITH WOLVES, or POCAHONTAS -- none of us knew that GOING INTO the film, and it wasn't like people were saying, "Hey, because I liked FERNGULLY I want to try out AVATAR." That didn't happen. Cameron's films were good by themselves, sought out for themselves, and kept people coming back by power of their own cinematic performances.​

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Getting into the importance of a film standing on its own, it sheds a different light on that $2b.

Already number 4! Buuuuut...​

The difference between the top two and the remaining three is that aforementioned importance.

The latter three rely on years and years of cachet shored up by multiple preceding films. The top two films came from NOTHING. Sure we knew about the Titanic beforehand, but I discovered there are 43 films and television specials about the Titanic, maybe a handful of them are memorable to any degree, and just one is remembered by everyone -- which stood on top until the same guy came back and topped himself with another property that came out of nowhere. As much as haters would like to call it SPACE JAM, DANCES WITH WOLVES, or POCAHONTAS -- none of us knew that GOING INTO the film, and it wasn't like people were saying, "Hey, because I liked FERNGULLY I want to try out AVATAR." That didn't happen. Cameron's films were good by themselves, sought out for themselves, and kept people coming back by power of their own cinematic performances.​

Things can actually go both ways though, by linking yourself into an existing mythology you also potentially limit your audience.

 

[method115]

Getting into the importance of a film standing on its own, it sheds a different light on that $2b.

Already number 4! Buuuuut...

The difference between the top two and the remaining three is that aforementioned importance.

The latter three rely on years and years of cachet shored up by multiple preceding films. The top two films came from NOTHING. Sure we knew about the Titanic beforehand, but I discovered there are 43 films and television specials about the Titanic, maybe a handful of them are memorable to any degree, and just one is remembered by everyone -- which stood on top until the same guy came back and topped himself with another property that came out of nowhere. As much as haters would like to call it SPACE JAM, DANCES WITH WOLVES, or POCAHONTAS -- none of us knew that GOING INTO the film, and it wasn't like people were saying, "Hey, because I liked FERNGULLY I want to try out AVATAR." That didn't happen. Cameron's films were good by themselves, sought out for themselves, and kept people coming back by power of their own cinematic performances.​

IMO Avatar relied on the emergence of 3D in theaters. That's all I heard people talk about when it came to that movie cause that's all there was. The actual story and movie was fucking boring and has been done so many times already. I'm interested to see how the sequels do because I suspect it will be much worse.

 

[USA!USA!]

I saw a conspiracy on youtube the other day that Hulk in the movie wasn't really Banner but he was Loki in disguise and that's why he Banner (or Loki if its true) couldn't summon the Hulk.

I think it is totally bullshit tho.

 

[method115]

I saw a conspiracy on youtube the other day that Hulk in the movie wasn't really Banner but he was Loki in disguise and that's why he Banner (or Loki if its true) couldn't summon the Hulk.

I think it is totally bullshit tho.

That sounds stupid.

 

[USA!USA!]

That sounds stupid.

It was a pretty lame conspiracy that didn't add up.

 

[minute bull]

IMO Avatar relied on the emergence of 3D in theaters. That's all I heard people talk about when it came to that movie cause that's all there was. The actual story and movie was fucking boring and has been done so many times already. I'm interested to see how the sequels do because I suspect it will be much worse.

Be much worse .... than Best Film of All Time -- yes, that's likely.

Too bad you didn't like it. I think it's a real gas.

Things can actually go both ways though, by linking yourself into an existing mythology you also potentially limit your audience.

Thanks, man. I'm sure that has something to do with that I just said.

 

[MikeMcMann]

IMO Avatar relied on the emergence of 3D in theaters. That's all I heard people talk about when it came to that movie cause that's all there was. The actual story and movie was fucking boring and has been done so many times already. I'm interested to see how the sequels do because I suspect it will be much worse.

The NEW immersive 3D world on the scale it was put out in and the relatively new use of Imax to perfectly compliment it was 100% what drove Avatar's success IMO. I and everyone I knew was completely in awe of what we were seeing on the big screen.

 

[revoltub]

Just seen it again,

I saw a conspiracy on youtube the other day that Hulk in the movie wasn't really Banner but he was Loki in disguise and that's why he Banner (or Loki if its true) couldn't summon the Hulk.

I think it is totally bullshit tho.

Dumb theory because we can see hulk within banner come out.

Even if loki could "pretend" to look like hulk for a split second..hulk came out while banner was in the iron man armour, so nobody would see him. Why would loki pretend to be banner/hulk if there was nobody around to trick? He is the trickster god no? And there is no indication that Loki is a 4th wall breaking character

 

[minute bull]

I JUST NEED LOKI TO LIIIIIIIVE.​

 

[LuchaBear]

I can't believe people are arguing with me on the internet

I'm with you on this. Cap was underutilized.