Movies AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR v.11

[USA!USA!]

It was a blow THROUGH him with some sort of super alien glaive.
Thanos and the Black Order didn't come to Earth to fight; they came to get the infinity stones. Vision was just a target . The Russos said this movie was like a heist film, and that was the Order's job, smash, grab, and GTFO.
The other Avengers did better against The Order because the Order approached them differently.

If Cap was the one who was holding onto the stone then he would have been beheaded in his sleep in the first 10 minutes of the movie

They didn't seem to be quite as stealthy when going for Dr. Strange's stone.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

They didn't seem to be quite as stealthy when going for Dr. Strange's stone.

It was 2 different members that went after Strange.
Proxima and Corvus seemed like more of the stealthy/assassin type.
She also had the plan of lying to Black Widow about Corvus' "death", so that he could sneak intp Wakanda and get another shot at Vision

And I don't think their big, space Hulk guy could do stealth if his life depended on it. And Ebony Maw thought they were completely beneath him and his powers. Stealth wasn't either of their styles

 

[shockaholic12]

I see your point that they could've extended that a bit... but I found it completely understandable in the relatively quick scenes where they described the over-population of his home planet & how it destroyed his people. he did some experiments on different planets such as Gamora's planet where he killed off half the population & you see him declaring that it's now a paradise instead of being plagued by hunger & lack of resources.

So I'm pretty satisfied with that aspect of the story being told. He's basically a hero. Mass murdering endless quadrillions of people to do it makes him a psychopath... but in the end his motivation is for the betterment of the universe as he sees it.

I wasn't clear enough. I think thanos philosophy was well developed. I think the avengers argument against his theory wasn't.

Like I get they aren't going to take his side but devoting a scene to Avengers expressing to the audience why saving today even if it means more death and suffering for everyone in the future is the right choice would have been helpful. As is it almost seems they don't disagree with his theory, just can't stomach the means.

 

[USA!USA!]

I wasn't clear enough. I think thanos philosophy was well developed. I think the avengers argument against his theory wasn't.

Like I get they aren't going to take his side but devoting a scene to Avengers expressing to the audience why saving today even if it means more death and suffering for everyone in the future is the right choice would have been helpful. As is it almost seems they don't disagree with his theory, just can't stomach the means.

I think it was that, and just to prevent the balance of power from shifting so heavily to Thanos. Being able to literally snap his fingers and have anything happen in the universe is pretty unfair.

 

[taurus]

About half of the refugees escaped in escape pods. This was explained either by Feige or Russo bros., it would also explain why we didn't see Korg or Valkyrie. As well as why Thor didn't lose his power if Asgard is no more since Asgard is his power source.

Good point, i forgot about that.

Phew, my man Korg is safe...

 

[taurus]

his "self righteous BS" was standing up for basic human rights, and he was correct about Bucky not being behind it all. He didnt betray Iron Man at all he just didnt tell him information he found out, to protect him.

Also "F Cap America"??? man you must not have been hugged as a child lol..... how dare you good sir? how very DARE you?

I was pretty vocal this entire time on not liking the "when i do something, it's right, when you do something, it's wrong (if it slightly goes against what i'm thinking)" approach which Cap seems to have.

For someone that says he hates bullies as much as Cap says he does, he is a straight up bully.

Him threatening Iron Man and daring him to "put on the suit" is present in both Avengers movies, and is a classic bully tactic. Take away his horse meat, what is he? A good man that tries to right wrongs? Who cares. . .

Avengers operated for several years, Cap didn't have a problem having Stark finance the entire operation, yet he doesn't tell him he knows his parents were straight slaughtered? You, a friend, are not.

I remain by my position. F Cap.

And no, i wasn't hugged as i child, my parents believed in tough love approach. It still hurts. . .

 

[taurus]

There is an alien invasion, there are aliens in gold armor killing eveyone, there were giant metal space worms flying around and raining down missiles. ..4 year old Gamora wasn't crying, wasn't scared, wasn't freaking out...she goes up to one of the aliens and is like "help me find my mom"
Lol She was most definitely NOT acting like "any other child" would in the midst of a literalalien invasion/culling

As i said, from my experience, it's a 1) terror or 2) complete shock reaction from children to similar situations (not that i've witnessed any alien invasions from comic book characters). I can safely put the reaction as portrayed in thw movie in the second category .

 

[MayhemMonkey]

I was pretty vocal this entire time on not liking the "when i do something, it's right, when you do something, it's wrong (if it slightly goes against what i'm thinking)" approach which Cap seems to have.

For someone that says he hates bullies as much as Cap says he does, he is a straight up bully.

Him threatening Iron Man and daring him to "put on the suit" is present in both Avengers movies, and is a classic bully tactic. Take away his horse meat, what is he? A good man that tries to right wrongs? Who cares. . .

Avengers operated for several years, Cap didn't have a problem having Stark finance the entire operation, yet he doesn't tell him he knows his parents were straight slaughtered? You, a friend, are not.

I remain by my position. F Cap.

And no, i wasn't hugged as i child, my parents believed in tough love approach. It still hurts. . .

lol wtf? Cap is a bully now? you must be smoking some good shit if thats what youve taken from watching the character. If he was a bully he would just rip Starks head off without the suit, he's trying to even things up. Nice guy that Steve Rogers.

he didnt think the information would ever become relevant, so kept it secret to protect Tony from getting upset(which he later admitted was a mistake).

honestly, if you dont like Cap you need more than hugs...... pretty sure you need slapped lol

 

[SmilinDesperado]

As i said, from my experience, it's a 1) terror or 2) complete shock reaction from children to similar situations (not that i've witnessed any alien invasions from comic book characters). I can safely put the reaction as portrayed in thw movie in the second category .

<{cruzshake}>

 

[Tycho- Taylor's Version]

I wasn't clear enough. I think thanos philosophy was well developed. I think the avengers argument against his theory wasn't.

Like I get they aren't going to take his side but devoting a scene to Avengers expressing to the audience why saving today even if it means more death and suffering for everyone in the future is the right choice would have been helpful. As is it almost seems they don't disagree with his theory, just can't stomach the means.

I think @ufcfan4 or someone said it but I'm hoping they're reserving the real interrogation of his plan for part II.

It's true that their defenses in IW philosophically resembled those of a War Roomer with extra rustled jimmies.

Honestly, if you dont like Cap you need more than hugs...... pretty sure you need slapped lol

Lol Sherdog: Civil War itt.

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

I wasn't clear enough. I think thanos philosophy was well developed. I think the avengers argument against his theory wasn't.

Like I get they aren't going to take his side but devoting a scene to Avengers expressing to the audience why saving today even if it means more death and suffering for everyone in the future is the right choice would have been helpful. As is it almost seems they don't disagree with his theory, just can't stomach the means.

A scene like that makes absolutely zero sense. If they’re unwilling to sacrifice one robot/Android/whatever Vision technically is to save half the universe then they’re absolutely not going to give even one second’s thought about sacrificing half the universe to save the other half. If even one Avenger said something like “well, you know, Thanos May be on to something” the other Avengers would look at them and say “who the fuck let this retard join the team?”

They’re super heroes. To have any of them take a cold, calculating pragmatic approach would be completely out of character for any of them and would be completely retarded.

 

[minute bull]

There doesn't seem to be enough time for such internal discussion, the movie being as long as it is already. Plus it's sort of a philosophical version of a beat that's already present in the story, when Thanos forces Quill to choose killing Gamora. More or less The Sociopath's Dilemma. The direction of the dilemma during the middle of the story isn't important, since the film's not really trying to make a statement about the sanctity of life so much as it's just using the melodrama for emotional effect. It'll eventually all work out in the end, after all.

Except for Captain America, who will die because the title of the next installment will be THE DEATH OF CAPTAIN AMERICA

#markhimzero

Long Live Captain Kathleen Kennedy's America

 

[strongstylekarate]

Great

 

[shockaholic12]

A scene like that makes absolutely zero sense. If they’re unwilling to sacrifice one robot/Android/whatever Vision technically is to save half the universe then they’re absolutely not going to give even one second’s thought about sacrificing half the universe to save the other half. If even one Avenger said something like “well, you know, Thanos May be on to something” the other Avengers would look at them and say “who the fuck let this retard join the team?”

They’re super heroes. To have any of them take a cold, calculating pragmatic approach would be completely out of character for any of them and would be completely retarded.

Take few deep breaths. I think a simple "even if thanos is right we can't let that happen because" sentiment gives some insight where there isn't much. There isn't much because the super heroes contradict their ethos in incredibly retarded ways throughout the flick already so might as well explain why.

Green chick's willing to sacrifice herself the whole time to stop Thanos and her team leader boyfriend at one point attempts to help her do just that in one act but then in the next act right when they have Thanos beat the "leader" superhero fucks literally everything up at the last second so he can land an useless slap? Star lord is perms-ruined as a character going forward.

Witch waiting till it's too late to destroy the stone when there's so much af stake seems stupid selfish too. Thanos came off as less self-centered than the Avengers who are too caught up in their crushes to do their jobs.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

Maybe that’s like an epilogue scene?

Well that's certainly a possibility. I guess it's not quite proof positive with that in mind, but that's assuming Iron Man survives the Avengers 4

 

[minute bull]

AVENGERS 4: WHAT'S LOVE GOTTA DO GOTTA DO GOTTA DO WITH IT

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

Take few deep breaths. I think a simple "even if thanos is right we can't let that happen because" sentiment gives some insight where there isn't much. There isn't much because the super heroes contradict their ethos in incredibly retarded ways throughout the flick already so might as well explain why.

Green chick's willing to sacrifice herself the whole time to stop Thanos and her team leader boyfriend at one point attempts to help her do just that in one act but then in the next act right when they have Thanos beat the "leader" superhero fucks literally everything up at the last second so he can land an useless slap? Star lord is perms-ruined as a character going forward.

Witch waiting till it's too late to destroy the stone when there's so much af stake seems stupid selfish too. Thanos came off as less self-centered than the Avengers who are too caught up in their crushes to do their jobs.

Well I think Quill and Wanda’s poor decisions can simply be chalked up to love making them irrational. But for anyone of these heroes to say “hold on a second, this Thanos guy’s plan makes a certain amount of sense” would immediately lead to someone else on the team to just yell “fuck that!”

Furthermore, Gamora and Nebula spent decades with Thanos and yet even they reject his hypothesis. Why would any of the Avengers give him the time of day? Why would any of them say “so some genocidal alien wants to wipe out half the universe because he thinks we’ll eventually all starve to death otherwise? Well, let’s discuss this.” They haven’t seen the things that Gamora has seen. They don’t know anything about Titan or Thanos’ research so why would they give it even one single moment of thought.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

Take few deep breaths. I think a simple "even if thanos is right we can't let that happen because" sentiment gives some insight where there isn't much. There isn't much because the super heroes contradict their ethos in incredibly retarded ways throughout the flick already so might as well explain why.

Green chick's willing to sacrifice herself the whole time to stop Thanos and her team leader boyfriend at one point attempts to help her do just that in one act but then in the next act right when they have Thanos beat the "leader" superhero fucks literally everything up at the last second so he can land an useless slap? Star lord is perms-ruined as a character going forward.

Witch waiting till it's too late to destroy the stone when there's so much af stake seems stupid selfish too. Thanos came off as less self-centered than the Avengers who are too caught up in their crushes to do their jobs.

Lol that would be stupid
NOT A SINGLE Avenger would have this thought and then actually verbalize it. 18 movies have shown us what kind of people they are. We don't need "insight" on what they would think about an alien's plan of wiping out half of all life. It's beyond obvious
As @TheWorm was saying, we already know where they are at, if they won't even have a conversation about sacrificing an android,there is no way they would think for a moment that Thanos was right.
And Thanos tried explaining his plan to Gamora and she told him he was wrong and that he didn't know that his way was the only way.

And lol at "crushes. Could you kill a young woman point blank easily? Even with the same stakes,could you easily kill a stranger that was innocent? Now imagine doing that to someone you loved.

 

[KreamPuff]

Am I missing anyone that died pre-snap: Heimdall, Loki, Collector, Gamora, and Vision? I'm assuming Gamora comes back if they do a GOTG3, and I imagine they'll reboot Vision somehow. Like other people mentioned, unless everyone remembers and deals with some serious PTSD, it does seem like there will be almost no lasting consequences. My guess is they'll reboot Vision to an earlier state, and he'll have no emotions towards Scarlet Witch.

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

Am I missing anyone that died pre-snap: Heimdall, Loki, Collector, Gamora, and Vision? I'm assuming Gamora comes back if they do a GOTG3, and I imagine they'll reboot Vision somehow. Like other people mentioned, unless everyone remembers and deals with some serious PTSD, it does seem like there will be almost no lasting consequences. My guess is they'll reboot Vision to an earlier state, and he'll have no emotions towards Scarlet Witch.

Based on Vision’s greyed out appearance after losing the gem I think they’ll bring him back but he’ll be white like he was for a few years in the comics.