AVENGERS: ENDGAME (Dragonlord's Review)

[PRIDEWASBETTER]

Is this confirmed?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/comicb...ndgame-ending-disney-plus-series-connections/

That's what I got from it.

 

[Mike]

No lad, I get that you're clearly a gay rights activist, and want to pretend you know all about this kind of thing, but you've shown you are the one who knows nothing. Repeating the same as you first said now?
That happened in the comic in 2014. Yes that is recent.
Your way to strengthen your moot point? To blabber on about how marvel featured feminism and civil rights 30 - 40 years ago.
You say its like talking to a child? Clearly you're used to arguing with them and rely on being able to fall back onto retarded nonsense points to argue your case, which in the grand scheme of what I started with, you make absolutely no sense.
It reminds me of arguing with my wife when it's her time of the month.

More ranting nonsense. Guess we're done here anyway, I've been running circles around you absolutely schooling you and exposing your lack of knowledge. You just want to be mad at the gays and those damn minorities, facts be damned.

Enjoy your persecution complex I guess.

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

so you're saying you like Barb Wire?

eww..

 

[minute bull]

eww..

 

[Tabarnakos]

Just watched the new Spider Man Far From Home trailer. Look cool but there is a part of me that don't like how they changed so many things from the comics and previous iterations. I mean everyone know that Peter Parker is Spider Man , no Daily Bugle , no JJ Jameson , the Stark suit with the arms (which i dislike) etc

Doesn't mean the movie will be bad and Tom Holland can be entertaining but.....we are far from what we know about classic Spider. I know they probably wanted to make things fresh after the 507 reboots of the character but i don't know....it almost feel too different,

 

[Limbo Pete]

No lad, I get that you're clearly a gay rights activist, and want to pretend you know all about this kind of thing, but you've shown you are the one who knows nothing. Repeating the same as you first said now?
That happened in the comic in 2014. Yes that is recent.
Your way to strengthen your moot point? To blabber on about how marvel featured feminism and civil rights 30 - 40 years ago.
You say its like talking to a child? Clearly you're used to arguing with them and rely on being able to fall back onto retarded nonsense points to argue your case, which in the grand scheme of what I started with, you make absolutely no sense.
It reminds me of arguing with my wife when it's her time of the month.

More ranting nonsense. Guess we're done here anyway, I've been running circles around you absolutely schooling you and exposing your lack of knowledge. You just want to be mad at the gays and those damn minorities, facts be damned.

Enjoy your persecution complex I guess.

 

[MikeMcMann]

I'm not talking about them featuring feminism, or civil rights stories, or whatever other rubbish you mentioned. I'm talking about them deciding to turn the cap role over to a minor character just for no real reason it seems other than to please the pc lobby.
But no, you just keep rambling on that I don't know what I'm talking about. Just because you're a comic nerd and I'm not, doesn't mean I'm incorrect in my point. Accept it, you're wrong. I'm not.

I'm struggling to see your point.

OK so no minor character like Falcon should get Cap's shield. So who then? Hulk? Thor?

Certainly you are not suggesting Bucky then as he is no more of established major character than Falcon is.

So who is it you think should have got Cap's shield.


(btw I would have preferred Bucky get it just because he is also a super soldier fwiw)

 

[Headkicktoleg]

Just watched the new Spider Man Far From Home trailer. Look cool but there is a part of me that don't like how they changed so many things from the comics and previous iterations. I mean everyone know that Peter Parker is Spider Man , no Daily Bugle , no JJ Jameson , the Stark suit with the arms (which i dislike) etc

Doesn't mean the movie will be bad and Tom Holland can be entertaining but.....we are far from what we know about classic Spider. I know they probably wanted to make things fresh after the 507 reboots of the character but i don't know....it almost feel too different,

I completely agree. I enjoyed the first two spidermans, but I want Spiderman to go back to the roots. This one seems pretty out there with the multiverse lore and generally too much "Marvel Universe" not enough spiderman.

 

[Headkicktoleg]

I'm struggling to see your point.

OK so no minor character like Falcon should get Cap's shield. So who then? Hulk? Thor?

Certainly you are not suggesting Bucky then as he is no more of established major character than Falcon is.

So who is it you think should have got Cap's shield.


(btw I would have preferred Bucky get it just because he is also a super soldier fwiw)

How about nobody. I don't really care thought because Cap was always a bitchmade character IMO anyway. Makes sense to give it to some dude with zero powers.

 

[MikeMcMann]

How about nobody. I don't really care thought because Cap was always a bitchmade character IMO anyway. Makes sense to give it to some dude with zero powers.

ya that is not going to happen in the comic book world to either Cap or Spiderman or any of the characters who have had many main character changes over time.

 

[CyberRubberDuck]

I'm struggling to see your point.

OK so no minor character like Falcon should get Cap's shield. So who then? Hulk? Thor?

Certainly you are not suggesting Bucky then as he is no more of established major character than Falcon is.

So who is it you think should have got Cap's shield.


(btw I would have preferred Bucky get it just because he is also a super soldier fwiw)

Seriously? Bucky is no more established than falcon? So the winter soldier isn't named after his character? And he wasn't caps motivation for fighting iron-man in civil war? You are way off with that reasoning. Falcon is a character that could have all his scenes deleted, and all the films he was in, would still make sense.
But no I'm not saying bucky should have gotten it. Though I'd have chosen him over falcon.
I don't see why they had to pass it to anyone in the end of that film. It's not something that needed addressing, but if they want to insist, I'd say Barton over falcon.
I don't see why anyone had to take it anyway. Just because it happened in one of the many versions of the comic, it doesn't have to feature in the mcu.

 

[Mike]

LOL, you've done nothing of the sort. All you've done is tell me repeatedly that I don't know what I'm talking about. Followed by examples of completely irrelevant shite, followed by more telling me I don't know what I'm talking about

That's your idea of schooling someone? Hilarious.

You know deep down I'm right but I get that now you've started, you're committed to seeing your bs argument through.

Cap handing falcon the shield made no sense. He'd done nothing significant in the mcu and was barely a b grade character. Didn't get anywhere near his own movie, nor is he a strong enough character to justify one. He has no abilities, he just happens to be the guy that snatched those wings.
It has nothing really to do with the comics. Not everyone who watches the films, wants to read a load of shitty comics that constantly restart over and over. We are talking about the movie. To state that anyone questioning the motives of the movie makers, need to shut up because some lame ass dick who lives in his mums basement making lgbt protest flyers, has read more comics than them, is just comedy gold. You are hilarious.

If you would respond to things I say instead of making stuff up because you want to be angry at libs, this would all be much easier. All the points I made are absolutely relevant.

They are following an arc for Falcon that goes back generations. It was always going to be Falcon that got the shield. I would have been ok with Bucky getting it, but they haven't foreshadowed that at all really, and he's a more minor character in these movies than Falcon is. You can't articulate WHY that choice is wrong. All you have is insults. And the fact that you are trying to steer the conversation towards gays, when nobody was talking about that, shows your agenda. You're one of those guys that thinks everyone is out to get you, and that other people having the freedom to live how they want is somehow hurting you. DGAF about any of that nonsense but take it to the war room.

You tried to inject your politics where they don't belong, and you're mad that you got called on it. Nobody wants to bash minorities and gays with you. We're here to talk about the marvel movies.

 

[Thai Otoshi]

Certainly you are not suggesting Bucky then as he is no more of established major character than Falcon is.

While your point is valid, I don't think it should have been Bucky for the simple fact that we have no fucking clue if his brain washing has been removed yet.

Giving the Cap shield, which is more than just a shield and also a symbol of truthandjusticeyaddayadda to a guy who, with the right programming could snap and start brutally killing people, isn't the best idea. Even with Steve Rogers looking after his best friend Bucky for all of those years, he knows that's still a risk.

That and yeah, Bucky is not much more established than Falcon.

 

[CyberRubberDuck]

If you would respond to things I say instead of making stuff up because you want to be angry at libs, this would all be much easier. All the points I made are absolutely relevant.

They are following an arc for Falcon that goes back generations. It was always going to be Falcon that got the shield. I would have been ok with Bucky getting it, but they haven't foreshadowed that at all really, and he's a more minor character in these movies than Falcon is. You can't articulate WHY that choice is wrong. All you have is insults. And the fact that you are trying to steer the conversation towards gays, when nobody was talking about that, shows your agenda. You're one of those guys that thinks everyone is out to get you, and that other people having the freedom to live how they want is somehow hurting you. DGAF about any of that nonsense but take it to the war room.

You tried to inject your politics where they don't belong, and you're mad that you got called on it. Nobody wants to bash minorities and gays with you. We're here to talk about the marvel movies.

Respond to stuff you say? You brought up feminism being addressed in a story years back. And civil rights. You're talking about a story within the comic books.
I am talking about the moviemakers weak way to direct another main character to pass on his torch to someone who within the films, did nothing to deserve captain righteous (and worthy of wielding mjolnir) endorsement and handed the shield.
As I said before, falcon pretty much played no part whatsoever in the whole mcu and could easily be deleted from every movie and no one would see a break in the films continuity.

 

[CyberRubberDuck]

Can't believe there are people who think bucky is as minor a character as falcon in the mcu.
The 2nd captain America movie is named the winter soldier. That's bucky.
Civil war is based alla round bucky. That's bucky too.
What the fuck has falcon done in the mcu that is at all significant?

 

[minute bull]

What the fuck has falcon done in the mcu that is at all significant?

In fiction, a foil is a character who contrasts with another character, usually the protagonist, to highlight particular qualities of the other character. In some cases, a subplot can be used as a foil to the main plot. This is especially true in the case of metafiction and the "story within a story" motif.The word foil comes from the old practice of backing gems with foil to make them shine more brightly.

A foil usually either differs dramatically or is extremely similar but with a key difference setting them apart. The concept of a foil is also more widely applied to any comparison that is made to contrast a difference between two things. Thomas F. Gieryn places these uses of literary foils into three categories, which Tamara A. P. Metze explains as: those that emphasize the heightened contrast (this is different because ...), those that operate by exclusion(this is not X because...), and those that assign blame ("due to the slow decision-making procedures of government...").

I don't mean to pile-on due to the timing of all these responses, but it seems like their television show is going to be a two-hander -- so the scope between them won't be as narrow as you might seem to fear.

 

[CyberRubberDuck]

Sums up pretty much every marvel movie bad guy. Just a bad version of the good guy. Same powers, different motivations. Bored.

 

[minute bull]

Yeah, bud. You're getting it.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

Sums up pretty much every marvel movie bad guy. Just a bad version of the good guy. Same powers, different motivations. Bored.

This is usually where DC shines. Or perhaps just batman? Either way the villains out of DC seem a bit more complex to me.

 

[SaiWa]

Seriously? Bucky is no more established than falcon? So the winter soldier isn't named after his character? And he wasn't caps motivation for fighting iron-man in civil war? You are way off with that reasoning. Falcon is a character that could have all his scenes deleted, and all the films he was in, would still make sense.
But no I'm not saying bucky should have gotten it. Though I'd have chosen him over falcon.
I don't see why they had to pass it to anyone in the end of that film. It's not something that needed addressing, but if they want to insist, I'd say Barton over falcon.
I don't see why anyone had to take it anyway. Just because it happened in one of the many versions of the comic, it doesn't have to feature in the mcu.

LOL. Are you talking about MCU or Marvel comics?

If you are talking about Marvel comics then Bucky is not even close to be as established as the Falcon even though he was created way before Falcon.

Winter Soldier was created in 2005. Prior to that Bucky was more or less declared dead of missing since '48. Both Cap and Bucky were briefly replaced by different heroes in the 60s but that's not what this is about. The only time you read about Bucky during his missing days were in WWII flashbacks.

Falcon was created in '69 and was practically a double duo with Cap for the entire 70's before hitting it out solo then joining the Defenders and later Avengers. So we're talking about almost 50 years of active duty in comic books for Falcon vs 22 years (8 years in the 40s and 14 years since '05). Yeah Falcon is way more established than Bucky.

And if you are talking about MCU well we saw way more of Falcon in most of the MCU movies than we saw Bucky.