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morning,
in true xmas spirit i'm once again hooked on Worlds Strongest Man.

i'm toying with the idea of having a go at stone lifting.

aside from the obvious strength gains I could see that the lift/tech could be quite transferrable to grappling- awkward shape etc.

whats the consensus on stone lifting as a supplement to regular strength training and/or wrestling/grappling/bjj?

what size stone would you start with? the lightest seems to be around the 80kg mark.

i'm currently 5'10", 87kg with a DL ~200kg.

thanks all.
 
IF you have the inclanation to make them and a place to use them they are awesome. Ive tried a few times and they are fun. Theres so many things I would use if I lived back in the states and was at my house. Stones, Prowlers, farmer bars. Im stuck with normal gyms though.
 
thanks mate.

what's your opinion on starting weight.

its a bit of a quandary- too light and i'll outgrow quickly, too heavy and i'm stuck.

from what I've read an 80kg would be a good start but I can't really afford to be buying a heavier one too soon - plus they are rather awkward to store...
 
Well usually you buy a mold and make your own (imagine shipping those things), from there you just throw styrofoam inside them to take up space but not add weight (at least thats how i've seen it done).

If it were me, Id make a mold and make 2-3 of them, Id make one pretty light like 200lbs just to figure out how to make it the best then go from there. And really, you could probably sell them on craigs list or ads at your local gym.
 
An 80kg stone once you've learned how to lift them (esp if your d/l is 200kg) is nothing more than a conditioning exercise. At first, you'll find them rolling away from you or too tight to your shins but reality is, once you've got that knack it'll be straight forward.
Even though it may end up being too light, you can never overtrain stones. Especially so that you should try to give 2 or 3 different techniques a shot. Into chest and press away, onto your shoulder and stack it.

It'l all fun and games but if you want to improve cross-over conditioning, my personal opinion is a heavy tyre would be more beneficial.
 
I really wish I had access to stones, heavy tyres and a prowler :(. They look like so much fun.
 
I had a buddy that made a few homemade stones. Apparently it's really easy. If i had the space I would totally do it.
 
Man, I would think these stones are a pretty unsafe way to gain strength. Unless you know you are competing in that event. Is it worth it? Drop one of those on your foot and you could damage yourself for life.
 
ripskater said:
Man, I would think these stones are a pretty unsafe way to gain strength. Unless you know you are competing in that event. Is it worth it? Drop one of those on your foot and you could damage yourself for life.
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The worst injuries i've heard of from lifting stones are strained muscles and torn calluses.
 
Well.., you say that...

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KILL KILL said:
The worst injuries i've heard of from lifting stones are strained muscles and torn calluses.
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Ok. I've never heard of anyone training with them. I've only seen the event on tv. I'd just be concerned with dropping them on your foot. You always weigh risk and reward with training. And my uneducated opinion says using weights with handles would be a safer way to train strength for grappling. But maybe my concern shouldn't be a concern as you a saying Kill Kill.
 
KILL KILL said:
The worst injuries i've heard of from lifting stones are strained muscles and torn calluses.
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They are one of the events with a particularly high risk of a bicep tear, aren't they?
 
thanks for the input guys.

yeah, I've heard that bicep tears are the one to watch out for. i'll be lifting them at the end of my session so hopefully being thoroughly warmed up should help prevent this. the other thing I've read is to avoid is twisting, ie, turning to the side at the top of the lift.

I think I might go for a 105kg stone so I have something to work towards. from what I've read you can break the lift down into stages if you are unable to initially complete the whole lift.
 
JauntyAngle said:
They are one of the events with a particularly high risk of a bicep tear, aren't they?
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Yup. From conversations with Travis Ort., this was always his biggest concern.



And did someone really think that you would compete in an event without training for it?
 
ivorytusk said:
you can break the lift down into stages if you are unable to initially complete the whole lift.
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This is true. Pick the stone up off the ground -> lap it -> regrip (personally I like to grab over the top of the stone, but you'll see some guys give the stone a bear hug) -> then drive your hips through as you roll the stone up and onto the platform/over the bar.

I'd say that these stages all occur whenever you lift a stone. It's just that they happen much quicker with lighter stones.

I also suggest investing in a few rolls of athletic tape if you're going to start incorporating stones. You're going to get some gnarly looking black and blues and possibly some scratch marks on your forearms. Tape might not prevent this, but it'll help. I love my Spartan sleeves, but unless you're competing or lifting stones extremely often it's not worth the investment.

My final piece of advice would be to skip the tacky. It'll definitely help you lift stones you wouldn't be able to otherwise, but if you're not planning on competing in strongman then it isn't necessary and could potentially open you up to unnecessary injury.
 
Since there is a high risk of bicep tear in Atlas Stone training, would focusing on bicep curls help before competing in atlas stone events?
 
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