Social [A**holes In The Sky] Flight Attendants Call For A National Ban List For Violent Air Passengers

[Deleted member 263856]

Do you believe that masks stop covid from spreading in a room with other people?

Whether or not you think it's effective, or if indeed masks are effective at all is not the point. A private business is not trampling on your rights as a citizen by asking you to mask up on their plane because they think it might be beneficial in reducing Covid infections and therefore increasing passenger safety. Again we don't know if they do or don't but they might. If you're uncomfortable with it rent a car and drive. If you do decide to take a plane don't be douche towards a flight attendant or the captain and make their job more difficult because they have nothing to do with the policy.

 

[Papi Chulo]

Whether or not you think it's effective, or if indeed masks are effective at all is not the point.

Actually it was the point.

Read the post I was responding to in that conversation.

If you want to talk about a different point, I can do that as well.

 

[Sketch]

Do you believe that masks stop covid from spreading in a room with other people?

Yes, obviously.

 

[Arkain2K]

It has come to this: scared Flight Attendants in America now feels the need to take self-defense training to protect themselves from the uncivilized assholes in the sky.

 

[BIKES!]

Right now many airlines due to Covid don’t serve alcohol in coach. Let the peasants in cattle class go booze free, they can’t act like grown ups…

 

[Arkain2K]

 

[Arkain2K]

‘I will break your neck’: Combative United passenger kicked off flight after making threats​

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Come fly the hostile skies.

A combative United Airlines passenger was recently ejected from his flight to California after appearing to threaten a flight attendant and a few of the other passengers, according to a series of viral TikTok videos taken by a traveler.

TikTok user Alexander Clark, who uploaded the videos last week, claimed the incident began after the passenger refused to wear his mask or hang up his mobile phone. He then began yelling at the flight attendant who made the requests, the video shows.

“The f— you talking to me like that for, bro?” the man can be seen asking the flight attendant, presumably after the attendant made the requests. “Take me off! I don’t give a f—! I don’t even want to go to Cali!”

The unruly passenger then rips off his mask before promising to find out the flight attendant’s “name, date of birth and address.”

“I will know your social security number before I get off this plane! On my daughter!”

The passenger, who was seated in the row behind Clark in a middle seat, then appears to shove another man out of the aisle seat and into the aisle. Immediately after, he walks toward the galley to confront a flight attendant.

“What’s the law gonna do?” he says to the flight attendant. Another man — who appears to be wearing a badge on his hip — tries to intervene, but he, too, is threatened.

“Mind your business. Mind your business. Because I will break your neck,” the unruly passenger says.

He continues yelling, insisting he needs to “explain something” to the flight attendant, until yet another passenger walks over and implores the man to end the confrontation so the flight can depart. He appears to calm down and walk back to his seat. The video ends when another passenger — the one who convinced the unruly traveler to get back to his seat — then appears to grab the phone from Clark’s hand, presumably to stop him from filming.

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Clark, however, uploaded two follow-up videos, both of which appeared to contain footage taken by a passenger several rows behind him. In those clips, the unruly passenger and two other men can be seen yelling at Clark, allegedly because he was taking video of the altercation.

“Why you recording s—, bro?” one of the men is heard asking.

“Let’s go to jail! Because I’m the only n—- on this plane that’s fit to go to jail!” the unruly passenger yells into the cabin.

Clark, the CEO of a virtual-reality gaming studio, explained in the captions that the man had tried deleting the video from his phone. Clark says he quickly “undeleted it” after snatching his device back.

He added that police later boarded the plane to escort multiple people from the flight, including the combative passenger.

https://fox4kc.com/news/i-will-brea...r-kicked-off-flight-after-making-threats/amp/

 

[xHeadx]

I'm all for private business doing shit free of the government. I'm not okay with companies that take federal dollars, our money, like the airlines, implementing bullshit rules.

 

[Bacco]

Ideally piece of shit should get huge fine, law punishment based on what he did and ban from flying, start from 3 years then 10 then life

Same goes for boat trip or public transport

But must be said flying companies, specially cheap ones also create the conditions that push people to get trashier

 

[Armbars]

Everyone should have to sign a waiver that gives the airline the rights to eject unruly passengers out of the plane.
Fuck them off boyo.

 

[NoSmilez]

It should be by flight companies but their record should have a note saying to watch them just in case or you can add notes to it. Sometimes you just get bad days from passenger and flight attendant.

 

[Satan's Daddy.]

It's perfectly acceptable by society for the crew member to treat you like that, but not the other way around? Am I right or am I right snowflakes?

 

[Tairy Hesticles]

Maybe not collectively, but it's the right of each company scan choose to ban people from their flights.

 

[Arkain2K]

'One of the worst displays of unruly behavior': American Airlines bans passenger after flight attendant injured
EVE CHEN AND BAILEY SCHULZ | USA TODAY | November 1, 2021

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An American Airlines passenger has been charged with interference with a flight crew and assault within the special aircraft jurisdiction of the United States after an incident that forced a flight to divert to Denver last Wednesday.

Flight 976 was heading from New York to Orange County, California, when the airline said the passenger "physically assaulted" a female flight attendant.

"I understand that he actually punched her twice," fellow passenger Mackenzie Rose told CBSLA. "I did see her walk back down the aisle afterward. She had blood splattered on the outside of her mask."

On Monday, the U.S. Justice Department identified the passenger as 20-year-old Brian Hsu of Irvine, California.

It wasn't immediately clear what prompted the incident on Flight 976.

In a Thursday (Oct. 28) Instagram post, American CEO Doug Parker said the incident was "one of the worst displays of unruly behavior" he has witnessed. Parker said the airline would do all it can to ensure that the passenger is prosecuted "to the fullest extent possible" and work with the Federal Aviation Administration, which can levy fines to disruptive passengers.

"American Airlines will not tolerate airport or in-flight misconduct of any kind, particularly toward our crew members or airport team," Parker said. "This type of behavior has to stop.''

"We are outraged by the reports of what took place on board," American Airlines said in a statement to USA TODAY. " Acts of violence against our team members will not be tolerated by American Airlines."


The passenger was taken into custody after the plane landed safely in Denver.

"The individual involved in this incident will never be allowed to travel with American Airlines in the future, but we will not be satisfied until he has been prosecuted to the full extent of the law," the airline said. "This behavior must stop, and aggressive enforcement and prosecution of the law is the best deterrent."

American Airlines has offered support to the injured flight attendant and her fellow crew members, whom they thanked for keeping everyone safe on board. The flight did later continue on to Orange County.

Flight attendants across the industry have called on Congress to do more to stem cases of air rage.

The Federal Aviation Administration announced $531,545 in civil penalties as of Aug. 19, with proposed fines ranging from $7,500 against a passenger who allegedly threatened to kill someone seated near him to $45,000 against a passenger who allegedly threw objects – including his carry-on luggage – at other passengers and put his head up a flight attendant’s skirt.

https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/8580912002

 

[Arkain2K]

10 passengers accused of unruly behavior on flights face $225K in fines, FAA says
By Marlene Lenthang | Nov. 11, 2021

Ten passengers have been hit with fines totaling $225,287 due to alleged unruly behavior on flights, according to the Federal Aviation Administration.

The agency announced the civil penalties in a Wednesday news release, outlining 10 new cases where passengers shoved flight attendants, used expletives, threw fits and refused to comply with the FAA requirement for face masks.

A woman traveling on a Horizon Air flight from Austin, Texas, to San Francisco, California, on May 18 ignored crew instruction to fasten her seatbelt, punched and screamed at her husband and son, threw trash at a flight attendant and snatched cookies from a nearby passenger, the FAA said. She faces a $32,000 fine.

A woman flying American Airlines on Jan. 21 from Tampa, Florida, to Miami was fined $24,000 after she allegedly failed to wear her face mask and became disruptive with her travel companions. On her way off the plane, authorities said she physically assaulted the flight attendant by shoving her in the chest.

A man who flew JetBlue Airlines from Newark, New Jersey, to Fort Lauderdale, Florida, on Nov. 7, 2020 was fined $17,500 after he allegedly used profane language and physically assaulted a flight crew member. Authorities said he yelled at a crew member and pushed him. The captain of the plane ended up diverting the flight to Richmond, Virginia, and police met the passenger at the gate.

Other cases highlighted in the release include a woman accused of spitting on a crew member on a Feb. 3 Southwest Airlines flight from Boston to Chicago and a man who attempted to enter the cockpit on a May 5 Southwest flight from New York City to Chicago.

So far this year, the FAA has documented 5,114 reports of unruly passengers and 3,710 reports of refusing to wear a face mask. The agency says 239 cases have been met with penalties.

Of this year's unruly reports, more than 100 passenger disturbances involved physical assault, according to the news release. It is illegal to assault fellow passengers or crew aboard a flight.

The number of unruly passenger incidents skyrocketed after the introduction of the mask mandate on planes, at airports and on public transport on Feb. 1, which is slated to last until Jan. 18, according to the Transportation Security Administration.

The FAA said though the number of unruly passenger incidents on commercial flights has dramatically plummeted since the launch of its Zero Tolerance campaign, launched in January 2021, the rate “remains too high.”

The policy allows the agency to pursue legal enforcement action against passengers who assault, threaten, intimidate or interfere with airline crew members.

Though the FAA doesn't have criminal prosecutorial authority, it can impose fines and has referred cases to the Justice Department "where the evidence supports criminal review," the news release stated.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna5227

 

[Arkain2K]

Delta plane makes emergency landing after passenger assaults flight attendant and air marshal
By Andy Rose, Kay Jones and Pete Muntean | December 10, 2021

A Delta flight from Washington, DC, to Los Angeles made an emergency landing in Oklahoma City on Thursday night after a passenger allegedly assaulted two people, authorities said.

"The passenger assaulted a flight attendant," Oklahoma City Police Capt. Arthur Gregory told CNN. An air marshal on board Flight 324 also allegedly was assaulted while attempting to subdue the passenger, who was eventually restrained.

The Boeing 757-200 aircraft landed at Will Rogers World Airport at around 7:40 p.m. local time, Gregory said. The man was removed from the flight and interviewed by the FBI.

Oklahoma City Police said on Friday that the man was arrested and charged with public drunkenness and disorderly conduct.

Jail records show that Ariel Pennington, 35, of Washington, DC, was booked at 11:16 p.m. into the Oklahoma City jail and released Friday morning at 4:54 a.m.

It is unclear if Pennington has a lawyer at this time. He is not listed in any court records.

The Transportation Security Administration said the suspect had been drinking.

Video taken by Axios reporter Sarah Mucha shows Pennington being led off the plane by two uniformed Oklahoma City Police officers.

"I'm trying to figure out why I'm getting arrested though," Pennington is heard saying. "What happened?"

About three hours into the flight, a crew member made an announcement on the intercom system asking for "able-bodied men" to assist a flight attendant in the back of the plane, Mucha said.

Shortly after the announcement, one of the pilots informed passengers that they would be diverting to Oklahoma City, the reporter said.

While on the ground, Mucha began filming as authorities led Pennington off the plane.

"They had to do health checks on the flight attendant so that he was OK to fly," she said. "Once he was cleared, he continued to fly all the way to (Los Angeles)."

TSA said the incident was not over mask rules. Last week, the federal mask mandate on all forms of public transportation including commercial flights was extended through March 18.

The Federal Aviation Administration says alcohol -- especially passengers illegally drinking their own brought on board -- is a top driver for violent passenger disturbances on commercial flights.

Last month, the FAA said it "received nearly 300 reports of passenger disturbances due to alcohol and intoxication" this year.

The FAA announced fines in late November for eight passengers totaling $161,823 for alleged alcohol-related unruly behavior.

The Department of Justice has said that it is prioritizing the prosecution of federal crimes on commercial aircraft.

"The Department of Justice is committed to using its resources to do its part to prevent violence, intimidation, threats of violence and other criminal behavior that endangers the safety of passengers, flight crews and flight attendants on commercial aircraft," Attorney General Merrick Garland said in a statement November 24.

A TSA spokesperson tells CNN that the air marshal did not ultimately need medical attention. There was no word on the nature of the injuries to the flight attendant.

Delta Air Lines hailed the "quick action and professionalism of the crew" and federal air marshals on the flight. "We apologize to our customers for the inconvenience."

The flight left Oklahoma City after a delay of about an hour. Video from CNN affiliate KCAL/KCBS showed the plane landing at Los Angeles International Airport at 10:18 p.m. local time.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/12/10/us/delta-flight-passenger-assault-oklahoma-city/index.html

 

[The Audience]

Wondering if the ubiquity of these types of videod incidents is fuelling their frequency...monkey see, monkey do an that

 

[Bargey]

You've all seen the ever-increasing incidents of unruly assholes causing trouble mid flights, refusing to comply with the flight crews' instructions, became violent, restrained by duct tape, and subsequently banned by certain airlines. Like this guy:







The amount of fines dishes out to unruly passengers has topped $1 million this year, but it's still an on-going problem. With over 4,000 violent incidents happened in 2021 alone, flights attendants are calling for criminal prosecutions for those who violates Federal aviation laws.



Now there's an idea being floated by Delta for U.S airlines to combine their Unruly Passengers Ban Lists, in order to preemptively keeping the assholes banned by one airline from getting on other flights.



What say you? Yay or Nay?

Would you like your airline to spare you the pleasure of sitting next to the same assholes who were so belligerent towards other passengers and flight crews, they were banned for life from other airlines?

Or do assholes who refused to comply with the mandatory rules on one plane deserves the chance to do it again on another?

Duct taping should be standard practice for dirtbags like that

 

[chardog]

I bet it’s the masks driving people’s antisocial behaviors

 

[PG29 red0 Jr]

Yea, I too get easily upset when I have to wear a mask for that long. It's not too bad if you need to wear it inside a store for a few minutes, but I am generally already very uncomfortable on a plane. I can see why there would be an increased number of problems.