News Aspinall to have double eye surgery

[RockyLockridge]

You're right, he didn't blame the one foul before the fight (except he did criticize Fig for missing weight and saying he lacked discipline and that he lost respect for him, and that proved he didn't have enough conviction to become champ), he just blamed the other foul during the fight (which is the more apt comparison that we'll ignore for some reason). And he didn't attack Fig personally (kinda did: above) because Fig wasn't an egregious weight misser at the time, whereas Gane is an egregious cheater. A guy who deserves blame gets blamed and we're supposed to throw up our hands in frustration at the blame, not the cause?


Not at all. I've been over this 100 times in other threads, but it's either cheating on purpose or not caring about cheating through negligence to change it. We're thinking of the risk of an NC because it happened, but when the ratio of eye pokes that occur in MMA (all of them giving you an advantage throughout the rest of the fight, so whether you're doing well or not, it's better early) vs the times it causes a fight to end (a paltry amount) then it's not really a question of "Why would someone winning risk it?" It's more a question of, "If you're okay with cheating, why would you not?"


Not all fouls are equal, and no one is obligated to continue. This logic is a pet peeve of mine, frankly, because think about it: Fighters who continue at a disadvantage should be lauded for it, right? I'd say so. But if you then flip the coin and say that anyone who doesn't continue should be criticized, then you DON'T think fighters who continue should be lauded, because what you are conditioning is: continuing is the expected standard. You're not applauding one guy for doing something he didn't need to if you're using him as the example of what people need to do. Especially when, as should be obvious, not all situations are equal, and trying to compare them is, like I said before, a whataboutism of completely different context.

you're all over the place here, you responding to a lot of arguments i've never made

 

[Mr.Maelstrom]

No, that's absolutely true. Some Cheeto fingered Mom's basement types are going to complain that he wasn't a warrior

If they were so mad they didnt get the ending they felt entitled to get that they think he's less of a man, 100% thats deplorable.

But there were others here on sherdog laughing and trolling the people who told us how anyone who doubted Tom was obviously a loser, basement dwel-blah blah
As if they didn't just spend 2 years laughing and high 5'ing over duck emojis and complaining that Jon wasn't a warrior.
Cuts both ways, some ppl dont like being consistent if they can't pick and choose when to stand on that

 

[DanaWhitesButler]

This thread is all anyone needs to see to understand that MMA fans are some of the dumbest motherfuckers in all of sports

 

[jeskola]

gane was winning the fight and things were trajecting well for him, he had no incentive to poke the eye. So to call him a cheater in a fight he didn't win, is just baby shit.

It was pretty even, and only because Gane consistently cheated. He is a garbage MMA fighter.

Like everyone else on the bandwagon you probably don't even like Gane.

 

[DapperDave]

The scumbags in here wanted Stipe stripped after he had to have surgery because of DC’s blatant cheating by eyepokes. He poked Stipe in ALL three fights, and you should be able to remember it correctly.

:45 seconds into the third fight (after recovering from his surgery ) he fucking did it AGAIN. I had zero problems when Stipe skewered DC back.

Meanwhile DC was lobbying to have Stipe stripped. While he was recovering from the surgery.

Fuck Gane.

He’s a serial cheater, intentionally trying to eyepoke his opponents. Or a shot or two to the back of the head. He’s the one people should be bitching about. But Jones’ lowlife fans have a problem with victims of cheating being pissed off about being cheated against. When video evidence shows this is not incidental, but intentional.

Don't come in here spewing truth and facts.

Sherdog wants gay whining.

 

[Intermission]

The video itself is clipped around topics so I won’t do any clipping.

Some highlights:

-doesn’t want to keep talking about the eye injury but says people has a right to know so he needs to talk about it.

-He’s very angry at Cyril, mostly at Cyril. He believes it was intentional.

-Loss of vision is very scary

-he likes real people more and social media has fake people and trolls.

-he talks about his eye injury to keep real fans updated, he’s not being defensive against trolls.

-has two surgeries scheduled, one for each eye, no details on type of surgery.

vision for 2026?

 

[Connection Lost]

Thought he already got that for free

 

[jeskola]

Sooooo Pereira vs Jones?

poatan already said he isn't fighting at White House and Jones has shown no desire to fight on any other card.

 

[RockyLockridge]

It was pretty even, and only because Gane consistently cheated. He is a garbage MMA fighter.

Like everyone else on the bandwagon you probably don't even like Gane.

Okay weirdo

 

[dipstickjimmy]

Don’t be mad cause even guys like Waldo disrespecting Tom now.

Salsa boy.

Guy continues because he can still see. Also continues because he otherwise would lose to a TKO. Such a hard choice. Whereas Tom can't see and is in an even fight that hasn't finished the first round. Waldo could see whereas Tom is having surgery on both eyes.

Waldo has nothing to do with it. Gane is a dirty fighter, simple fact. Good for Pico De Gallo Guy but its not about him its about the dirty frenchman. In fact when Tom does return it should be against Waldo and Gane should have to get in line since he fucked up his title shot.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

any delay in Toms schedule is Jon's fault

lol Jon Derangement Syndrome is real!

How so? Who is the UFC supposed to book Tom the Interim Champion against other than the guy holding the Undisputed Title?
What fight did Tom refuse?

 

[CombatCyborg]

Yeah Gane is a bitch who took a dive against Jones for $$, who is an even bigger bitch with a fake legacy

 

[dipstickjimmy]

yup. like once a week sounds good. jon sucks. gane has dirty fingers. Don't care. if someone fights, then i got something to watch. if they don't, then i don't and they're meaningless to me.

OK so you expect all UFC champions to fight weekly or is it just Tom?

 

[cburm]

This fella is a c b or a lost celeb athlete now yet he can't find humor in memes about himself.. fans people troll for fun and reaction he's gotta be negative about it and find a happy place or get more tattoos to keep him from cutting his wrists ...

Budd go watch some memes people made from you on TV and have some fun... Be grateful you're somebody known
.. this is the life you chose...

Stop sounding like you're whining about Gane and the injury how about talk some shit about Gane and give us something to look forward to... None of this shit means a damn thing at the end of the day... But one of the billion men on this planet gets to be alive in a great life while the others have to work 9-5 and make only a living..

We all end up dead with nothing at the end of the day enjoy what you got

 

[MindGamingMantis]

He studied Jon Jone's footage and learned a lot. His trolling skills are becoming really good.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

just forget that Ante/Tom's team appealed in order to have the result overturned: one week after they were perfectly fine having their fighter rewarded for a foul.

What did they appeal exactly? Do you actually know? You seem to think they felt they should have gotten the win for an eye poke.

He appealed the fight being restarted. When a fight is stopped and replay is used to review the fight is not supposed to be restarted. Ante's appeal said it should have been a NC or a DQ. He did not ask for a win.

The Unified Rules are very clear:
“Instant replay may be used to review a ‘Fight Ending Sequence’ and shall only be used after a fight has been officially stopped. Once instant replay has been used to review a fight ending sequence, the fight shall not be resumed.”

The NSAC said it has its own rules. So why do the Unified Rules even exist??? Even the rules they quoted don't seem to apply. Cortes had a cutman, water and a stool. None of that is allowed during a stop in the fight as opposed to a stoppage. Ref Mark Smith technically didn't waive off the fight but he also did not call "Time" either. He did not instruct the fighters to neutral corners. Everything he did was around the stoppage of the fight. At that point the replay can be used but the fight can not be restarted. Very sketchy.

 

[tasticles]

Yeah Gane is a bitch who took a dive against Jones for $$, who is an even bigger bitch with a fake legacy

My the times have changed. Id have gotten a double yellow or ban for that back in the day. And asspinal isnt looking too good either. Doesnt mean you havent trained or fought because you thinking hes being a sissy about it.

 

[Yoricks Wisdom]

Double eye surgery, and then continuing to fight?
I just can’t see that.

 

[Alpha_T83]

I support Tom, but I think the UFC is going to strip him of the title. If he has eye surgery as rumored, and he's going to be out for another 6+ months, I just can't see the UFC allowing him to hold the belt the entire time.

But what this will depend on is Jones vs Pereira. If the UFC decides to go with Jon Jones vs Alex Pereira, they would be crazy to make that fight for an interim title. If would have to be for the undisputed title. Otherwise if that fight doesn't happen, Tom might keep the belt and Cyril Gane fights for an interim title.

 

[HereticBD]

Just stop, bro.

Just get whatever you need done, and quit this constant "My eyes, MY EYES!" shit. It's so obnoxious. You're not the first fighter in the world to get poked in the eyes.