News Aspinall to have double eye surgery

[markg171]

He said pretty directly that he already had one and more scheduled.

When you watched him tell you he already had eye surgery, did there appear any indication at all from looking at him that he actually had had eye surgery?

 

[RockyLockridge]

Kind of a whataboutism with clearly different context. Joe B is the one who initiated the clash of heads in his case while Gane is a serial cheat. Joe was not under nearly the same amount of scrutiny, and he also did immediately blame the foul for the loss, so I guess he's just a whiner too, yeah?

No, I dont remember him saying that he's a dirty weight missing cheat, and he could have. thats the point im making. he blamed a foul, but he didn't blame or accost his opponent.

gane was winning the fight and things were trajecting well for him, he had no incentive to poke the eye. So to call him a cheater in a fight he didn't win, is just baby shit.

also, Tai Tuivasa got fouled by gane, but look they were training together. he wasn't a fucking baby about it.

 

[KO Shotz]

Sooooo Pereira vs Jones?

 

[Captain Herb]

Im not sure why some people wont just admit that he's pretty obviously embellishing his injury.

That does not mean that he is not injured.

it does not mean that Gane is not at fault.

just that He's making his injury out to be worse than it is. He's pretty clearly buying time and stalling this rematch.

Even if he is stalling a rematch that's gamesmanship. What Gane did was blatant filthy cheating. At this point in the evolution of the sport and with the money involved, you people are going to have to accept that they're going to take any advantage and reject any disadvantage within the rules like any other sport. Besides, idiot Gane gave him the opportunity on a silver platter. The dumbest thing he could have done was to end the fight with a stupid and intentional foul when he was arguably winning. Any way you look at it, the whole debacle is Gane's fault and if Tom uses it to his advantage in preparing for the rematch, then it is what it is.

 

[RockyLockridge]

Even if he is stalling a rematch that's gamesmanship.

I agree, he has every right to.

If I was sick on a monday, And felt better by wednesday, I'd still ask my parents to stay home from school thursday and friday. thats game.

Can't blame him. And I don't, But dont piss in my corn flakes and tell me it's milk. I know what he's doing and I know why. It's exactly what I'd do If I were him

 

[JakePaulMMA]

This guy comitted suicide I found out a year or 2 ago.

Well...damn

 

[Mr.Maelstrom]

Well...damn

Dude, i know. Pallet cleanser?
Check out how they did Goro from the movie. It's really something

 

[RockyLockridge]

Dude, i know. Pallet cleanser?
Check out how they did Goro from the movie. It's really something

One thing I love about older movies in general was how they would do such roundabout things to get the effect they want, now it's "fuck it, Throw in CG"

 

[Söze Aldo]

Christopher Nolan should buy rights and make a movie about Tom Asspedal blindness

He can play the cyclops in the Odyssey.

 

[Mr.Maelstrom]

One thing I love about older movies in general was how they would do such roundabout things to get the effect they want, now it's "fuck it, Throw in CG"

100%, alien and Jaws both significantly benefitted from the work-arounds they had to do with what they had. Compare this goro to the one from the most recent film.
Laughably bad, kinda like The Thing prequel from 2011, where they had real shit just like the 82 version, but at the last second it was decided they'd go with cgi for roughly 4/5ths of the effects heavy scenes instead

There's good cgi out there, but it's rare

 

[FilipEmoFights]

The rules heavily favor strikers….

Fight starts standing.
It’s by rounds so you get a stand up at the end of each round.

You can’t knee downed opponents, do you know how brutal wrestlers can be if you let them start kneeing?

If there’s no action in the ground you can be stood up, if there’s no action on the feet, do they force you to go to the ground? Or clinch?

Not gonna argue

The cage encourages grappling and gives fighters a literal barrier to hold someone against

That knee you mention is one of the great counters to a bad shot or panic wrestling

The guy on bottom or in guard should be able to use up kicks on a guy on top of him so change those rules but keep soccer kicks out

I’d agree with you totally if we were in rings still but the whole sport and how rounds are scored cage control has now become a big part of how rounds are getting judged

 

[Mr.Maelstrom]

Even if he is stalling a rematch that's gamesmanship. What Gane did was blatant filthy cheating. At this point in the evolution of the sport and with the money involved, you people are going to have to accept that they're going to take any advantage and reject any disadvantage within the rules like any other sport. Besides, idiot Gane gave him the opportunity on a silver platter. The dumbest thing he could have done was to end the fight with a stupid and intentional foul when he was arguably winning. Any way you look at it, the whole debacle is Gane's fault and if Tom uses it to his advantage in preparing for the rematch, then it is what it is.

Agreed, and I'd take it a step further and say I don't mind that he took the out when it fell in his lap. If he couldn't see, he had no obligation to continue to fight especially if this is the only way to guarantee leaving with the belt. Completely understandable.

But in exchange for taking the out and keeping your belt, you're giving anyone who criticizes you for it, fair or unfair, true or untrue, trolling or shitposting - You're accepting that you're giving them that ammo they need for that criticism, for it to even flare up in the first place.

You can't have your cake and eat it too

 

[JakePaulMMA]

Dude, i know. Pallet cleanser?
Check out how they did Goro from the movie. It's really something

Its god damn beautiful...

(and sounds miserable)

 

[Mike]

Why the hell am I getting notifications about random threads being started now. Jeez this site is such a mess lmao

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

No, I dont remember him saying that he's a dirty weight missing cheat, and he could have. thats the point im making. he blamed a foul, but he didn't blame or accost his opponent.

You're right, he didn't blame the one foul before the fight (except he did criticize Fig for missing weight and saying he lacked discipline and that he lost respect for him, and that proved he didn't have enough conviction to become champ), he just blamed the other foul during the fight (which is the more apt comparison that we'll ignore for some reason). And he didn't attack Fig personally (kinda did: above) because Fig wasn't an egregious weight misser at the time, whereas Gane is an egregious cheater. A guy who deserves blame gets blamed and we're supposed to throw up our hands in frustration at the blame, not the cause?

gane was winning the fight and things were trajecting well for him, he had no incentive to poke the eye. So to call him a cheater in a fight he didn't win, is just baby shit.

Not at all. I've been over this 100 times in other threads, but it's either cheating on purpose or not caring about cheating through negligence to change it. We're thinking of the risk of an NC because it happened, but when the ratio of eye pokes that occur in MMA (all of them giving you an advantage throughout the rest of the fight, so whether you're doing well or not, it's better early) vs the times it causes a fight to end (a paltry amount) then it's not really a question of "Why would someone winning risk it?" It's more a question of, "If you're okay with cheating, why would you not?"

also, Tai Tuivasa got fouled by gane, but look they were training together. he wasn't a fucking baby about it.

Not all fouls are equal, and no one is obligated to continue. This logic is a pet peeve of mine, frankly, because think about it: Fighters who continue at a disadvantage should be lauded for it, right? I'd say so. But if you then flip the coin and say that anyone who doesn't continue should be criticized, then you DON'T think fighters who continue should be lauded, because what you are conditioning is: continuing is the expected standard. You're not applauding one guy for doing something he didn't need to if you're using him as the example of what people need to do. Especially when, as should be obvious, not all situations are equal, and trying to compare them is, like I said before, a whataboutism of completely different context.

 

[Tweak896]

The worst part to me is at no point does Tom even ball park a return date. This is 2 months later and surgeries are being talked about in the future.

Just really hate how delayed the HW division is. We haven't had a completed HW title fight since 1 fight in 2024. Even if Tom gets surgery today, that's minimum 3 months recovery I'm guessing (Until mid April). Then add 2 months for a training camp, now we're at mid June 2026.

Almost exactly 1 year since Aspinall was promoted to champ in June 2025, we might not have a fight until July 2026. It's looking like Jones has been a more active HW champion. Both champs hurt by injury, sit out. Different reactions because of how people feel about them.

I'm just saying Aspinall doesn't have Jones resume if we're holding up the division for him. Really how long until we can nail down 1 HW title fight? I'm just saying enough time passes and people will agree with me the UFC should do what they did for LHW, vacate belt, instant title shot on return. I'll take Gane/Pereira or Pereira/Jones for vacant belt if it moves the division.

This could be the longest amount of time that the HW belt has never been defended. Even Jones won in Mar 2023, defended in Oct 2024.

 

[Tweak896]

Sooooo Pereira vs Jones?

I'm in, vacate title, winner faces Aspinall. I'm at the point in frustration I'll take Volkov vs Waldo for vacant belt if the division can move forward. Aspinall's surgery isn't until mid January. At a certain point people have to let go of Aspinall and let him fight for the belt next fight.

 

[Captain Herb]

Agreed, and I'd take it a step further and say I don't mind that he took the out when it fell in his lap. If he couldn't see, he had no obligation to continue to fight especially if this is the only way to guarantee leaving with the belt. Completely understandable.

But in exchange for taking the out and keeping your belt, you're giving anyone who criticizes you for it, fair or unfair, true or untrue, trolling or shitposting - You're accepting that you're giving them that ammo they need for that criticism, for it to even flare up in the first place.

You can't have your cake and eat it too

No, that's absolutely true. Some Cheeto fingered Mom's basement types are going to complain that he wasn't a warrior

 

[whocares]

The Jones stroking biases have this forum with its head 18 miles up its ass on this topic. If you ladies ever get over your cumbersome emotions we could have the much more interesting discussion about what this play is much more likely about. But hey the guys a pussy and scared lol +4 haha points

 

[Prex32]

he dug himself a hole