Askren made the right choice with ONE FC over WSOF

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  1. Meathead Jock

    Meathead Jock WAR ASKREN

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    http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/Viewpoint-No-Lateral-Move-68077

    Good to see people wisening up and realizing this is a job for fighters and not just something where they should blindly go where there are more interesting matchups & the becoming a star in Asia is going to pay off big time in two years when the UFC is trying to take their brand over there
     
  2. eseseses681

    eseseses681 Purple Belt

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    There's more to fighting than taking fights to please the impossible-to-satisfy people on the Internet.
     
  3. Mikedh

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    I did laugh that he inferred WSOF was a smoke and mirrors operation while putting over One FC. But if they gave him the most money, whatever dude go there.

    This was the most interesting part of the article was this

    Bellator, which could use a star like Askren, could not come to terms with him financially.

    I have never heard that from either Bellator or Askren.
     
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    FatMoiMoi Green Belt

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    Totally agree. One FC has some huge sponsors too; there's big money to be made in One FC.
     
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    Meathead Jock WAR ASKREN

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    They have both said it in the past. They said they sat down for a meeting early in the process and that "there numbers were way far apart" was never announced what they offered him. Askren starts at 50/50 at ONE FC and with each win during his 6 fight streak his salary goes up (don't know how much), on top of getting paid to coach an undisclosed amount by Evolve.

    So it's probably safe to assume Bellator offered less than 50/50.
     
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    Thanks for the info. The way most around here talked about it, Bellator let him go because they were doing him a favor and didn't make him wait like Lombard.
     
  7. Meathead Jock

    Meathead Jock WAR ASKREN

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    Well they sort of did him a favor. They did let him go early because Askren insisted it. Askren thought there was no chance the UFC wouldn't actually sign him. Bjorn told Ben "if we release you, it's going to lose a lot of your leverage, I don't think you should" Askren insisted though, and Bjorn followed through. If Bellator pretends to fight for Ben a bit harder who knows if the UFC would have been more interested.
     
  8. king of theRing

    king of theRing Black Belt

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    Bjorn did say for askren to go to ufc cause he deserved it, and was also cause bellator didn't want to up his pay.

    One fc is a smart business decision when all you got to choose is wsof and even bellator ( depending on who you are)
     
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    thedevious Everyone Is On PEDs Except Me

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    Should have been the UFC but Dana doesn't see Askren as a guy he can go get a beer with :rolleyes:

    If Askren really does retire undefeated with One FC then he might rank up there as one of the biggest wastes of talent in MMA history due to how much greater he could have potentially been.
     
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    Nuclearlandmine Shreddin' Double Yellow Card

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    So Askren made the right choice by signing with a borderline irrelevant Asian org where he can crush cans for a lot of money?
    Business wise, right. Fight wise? Shit.
     
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    The Mookster Green Belt

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    I'm sure Askren will go undefeated in OneFC. I am also sure he will not become a big star in Asia for the same reason he didn't become a big star in Bellator\U.S.
     
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    How people on the Internet feel about you > financial security.
     
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    He's signed with a company that he can become the face of, a company which has a unique market that no other MMA organisation in the world can lay claim to (maybe the UFC will in a few years), and he will be getting paid a shit load. So yes I think he made the right choice.

    From One FC's point of view it's a good signing; every guy that fights Askren, win or lose, will improve. Therefore the overall level of talent in One FC will increase. It also gives them a name to market in the West if they ever choose to, though with such a huge market at their disposal I doubt they will bother (not in the forseeable future at least).
     
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    Gotta make them big bucks sometime in your career. Business wise, wsof does nothing for him.

    Fight in front of 2500 fans and 150k viewers on nbc or 18000 fans and on tv all over Asia.

    One fc last weigh ins had more people show up than wsof events
     
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    Liquid Smoke Great artists steal™

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    Man you really nailed it, this is great!
     
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    I'm sure the fans over there will enjoy his fan friendly style while grounding out and taunting their homegrown stars.

    Askren could be fighting Fitch on NBC had he gone to WSOF.

    Dude is getting paid though, so long as he's cool with that so be it.
     
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    The Asian market is huge One FC might don't pull the best numbers but there is a lot of money to be made for a undefeated fighter over there
     
  18. Meathead Jock

    Meathead Jock WAR ASKREN

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    For signing with what can be the premier MMA organization in Asia. His brand wasn't going to get much stronger if he beat Palhares/Fitch/Burkman, it'd help but he is already ranked over those guys and a lot of us thinks he wins those fights. By winning those fights, the same fans who called him boring in Bellator aren't going to suddenly respect him, they're still going to call him boring. Asian crowds in the past have shown that they aren't quick to boo like American crowds.

    The UFC is trying to build their brand in Asia, so what makes him more attractive: Being known as a high end fighter who does most of his damage by grappling where fans sit and boo or going and becoming a star somewhere the UFC is trying to grow so that the UFC doesn't even have to do their job and promote you for when they put on fights oversea's, they can just throw on their countries premier fight organizations former champion on the card in addition to the American household names and they have a card locked and loaded. The fact he can build his brand there where it was near maxed out in America (without the UFC) and he can do so while making 6 figures a fight with less risk of a loss, it just makes too much sense.

    If he were to fight in the WSOF it'd be purely for ego and to please the small group of hardcore fans who want to see him square off with Palhares. Ben beating him would be an awesome win, but it's not going to change a lot of impressions about him. Those very reasons cause a lot of fighters to sign, but in this case he made the right choice. The fact he is used to traveling worldwide from wrestling and was already familiar with the Evolve camp just made the choice all the easier.
     
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  19. FatMoiMoi

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    One FC has different rules than Bellator and the UFC. He'll probably have to mix up his fighting style a bit as he won't be able to lay and pray round after round. Also, knees to a grounded opponent makes wrestlers a lot more dangerous. Think Mark Coleman in Pride.
     
  20. king of theRing

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    Great post sir! 100% correct
     

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