As the UFC evolves, will the trend of less submissions continue?

[The Big Bang]

I find it odd that armbars are pretty much MIA. (not including WMMA)

I find it odd that leg locks are still a rarity.

I find it odd that this is not done more often:



I find it odd that most fighters STILL suck at delivering elbow and knee strikes...

I find it odd that judo sweeps (modified for MMA of course) are still uncommon.

I find it odd that Wing Chun stop kicks (AKA oblique kicks) are still allowed in the UFC...

I find it odd that flat goggles aligned with ones facial structure are not at least in a prototype phase... (they could bend towards the edges, but not cave into the eyes)

But hey, it's a bit much to ask a "sport" to evolve when paychecks are so fucking imbalanced and embarrassing.

In the end, I think that new talent is the answer via better fighter pay as opposed to desperately clinging to "stars". And yes, I'm talking shit about Conor, as he is still inexplicably the ugly face of the UFC.

http://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/22277062/how-mma-fights-end-submission-victories-way-down

 

[Dream Evil]

There is an inherent risk with most submission attempts. In today's climate of "win or be cut" the risk often isn't worth it.

 

[SeattleFightFan]

your article is heavy on opinion, light on data. check this out http://scorecardmma.com/scmma/index.php/miscellanies/fight-end-methods/end-method-types.

it feels like there is an inverse relationship between parity and submissions.

 

[Bubblun]

To armbar someone you have to:

1) take him down/rock the opponent (and this means strike with your opponent regardless), pass his guard, go to mount/north south and hit a very low percentage submission.
All that means you are so much better than your opponent you could literally do everything to him, and most likely you could have already won the fight by stoppage.
2) be the one getting rocked/being taken down, be the one that is losing the fight fighting from an inferior position, achieve full guard and hope the opponent is dumb enough to give you the arm.

Leg locks same story, unless you are one of those specialists that the only things they do are leg locks, but still nobody is fighting at championship level with that skillset.

 

[Wizzlebiz]

Submission became less of a thing when people started training to defend them. Its called evolution

 

[cooks1]

There is an inherent risk with most submission attempts. In today's climate of "win or be cut" the risk often isn't worth it.

Agreed. Leaving submissions out of it for a moment, the contract stipulation that allows the UFC to cut fighters after a loss is the single biggest deterrent to exciting fights in general.

 

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[cooks1]

Submission became less of a thing when people started training to defend them. Its called evolution

That would be a common sense explanation if it were at all true that submissions had become less of a thing. They haven't. Roughly 17.5% of all fights so far in 2018 have ended in submission. Which is the same as 2017. Which was pretty much the same as 2016. Which was maybe 1% less than it was in 2015.

People should do a little homework before blindly accepting statements as fact. The premise of the thread is a hoax.

http://mma121.com/overall-2017-submission-statistics-ufc/

 

[Fraz]

Submissions are for casuals

 

[Danespina]

2018 had some amazing come from behind submissions. I don't feel like there's becoming less.

 

[yougotabeeonyourhat]

Submissions are ghey.

 

[cooks1]

2018 had some amazing come from behind submissions. I don't feel like there's becoming less.

Your intuition is correct. There aren't significantly fewer submissions. As a % of fight outcomes, submissions have been pretty static going back at least 3 and a half years and probably longer than that. I just can't easily locate and data going back further.

 

[Pepy]

 

[kungfu_taichi]

Submissions are down compared to ten years ago because guys make fewer stupid mistakes. People don't leave their arms out to get barred. Everybody knows how to defend chokes. When's the last time you saw a gogo plata in the UFC? Everybody trains to defend everything, even if it's not in their offensive arsenal. Decisions are up because overall defense is better. Fewer holes in fewer guy's games/

 

[johnyboy]

Leg locks are super risky in mma.

 

[Daniel_LaRusso]

Laugh all you want at goggles but I think they're a good idea.

 

[MMAfanJabroniJew]

 

[The Big Bang]

Laugh all you want at goggles but I think they're a good idea.

It's all fun and games until...

 

[ThatGuy7698]

I find it odd that you find all those points you mentioned odd.

 

[Wizzlebiz]

That would be a common sense explanation if it were at all true that submissions had become less of a thing. They haven't. Roughly 17.5% of all fights so far in 2018 have ended in submission. Which is the same as 2017. Which was pretty much the same as 2016. Which was maybe 1% less than it was in 2015.

People should do a little homework before blindly accepting statements as fact. The premise of the thread is a hoax.

http://mma121.com/overall-2017-submission-statistics-ufc/

I admittedly didnt do the research. Thats true