As a top fighter, is getting finished an inevitability?

[kuromusha]

It seems that no top fighter is safe from getting finished. It's not a question of if it will happen but when it will happen. Very few top fighters have never been finished.

That's what makes guys like Jon Jones impressive. He's fought some incredibly dangerous guys and has never been finished. Vitor got pretty close but Jones toughed it out in the end.

 

[Ceez]

Depends on how long you stick around and if you're cherry picking your fights I guess

 

[KB Warrior]

why you have to say top fighter, isn't it any fighter?

 

[Dingaling]

Father time is undefeated, your next fight could be the time when it happens

 

[hot carl]

i dont know.

gsp wasnt finished late in his career, but he was kinda mid-career, but not against a top guy (tough as hell guy, but with greatest of respect to serra, he wasnt top 3-5 when he fought gsp).

BUT, when you are the best and you are only fighting top guys, there is a very high risk that you will get koed or finished.

cain was tooled by werrdum, and penn was tooled by frankie, but frankie didnt finish penn. like most things, no one stays at the top forever--it is likely a combination of competition getting better and top dogs logging miles in a very tough sport.

 

[HomeRun916]

Jon Jones doesn't think so.

 

[Emjay]

Not if you avoid the fight where you getting finished is likely to happen by doing a hit and run on a pregnant lady

 

[IIIIIIII]

It seems that no top fighter is safe from getting finished. It's not a question of if it will happen but when it will happen. Very few top fighters have never been finished.

That's what makes guys like Jon Jones impressive. He's fought some incredibly dangerous guys and has never been finished. Vitor got pretty close but Jones toughed it out in the end.

honestly, jones reminds me of the way conor is at 145. the larger guy beating up the smaller fighters in the division. the moment jones fought someone his own size, he got his ass kicked. if jones moves up to heavyweight, he gets finished by one of them in my opinion.

 

[Headkicktoleg]

Too many moving parts and areas of expertise to not have something that will fuck you up even by someone not to your standards. Just look at
Hughes/Hallman X2
GSP/Serra
BJ Penn/Pulver
McGregor/Diaz
Copcop/Manbearpig

 

[Takamine86]

Not inevitable, always possible. Just like it is possible to be undefeated.

 

[SenorFranko]

It seems that no top fighter is safe from getting finished. It's not a question of if it will happen but when it will happen. Very few top fighters have never been finished.

That's what makes guys like Jon Jones impressive. He's fought some incredibly dangerous guys and has never been finished. Vitor got pretty close but Jones toughed it out in the end.

The only time Bones got tested was against Gus, before that he didn't get touched. Like him or not he is the best fighter about.

 

[FeloniousMonk]

i dont know.

gsp wasnt finished late in his career, but he was kinda mid-career, but not against a top guy (tough as hell guy, but with greatest of respect to serra, he wasnt top 3-5 when he fought gsp).

BUT, when you are the best and you are only fighting top guys, there is a very high risk that you will get koed or finished.

cain was tooled by werrdum, and penn was tooled by frankie, but frankie didnt finish penn. like most things, no one stays at the top forever--it is likely a combination of competition getting better and top dogs logging miles in a very tough sport.

I'm about the biggest bj penn fan
there is. & I believe tko's are
definitely varied in terms of a
legitimate finish...

But Frankie finished bj in
their last fight, no doubt.
BJ wasn't throwing up any
subs, no sweeps, nothing...

He was a far cry from the
aggressive guardsman that
caught Hughes in that triangle
of the last seconds of the round
in their second fight.

I hate to admit it... but bj didn't
show up to that fight. Respect to
Frankie. He's a hard pill to swallow
as a bj nut hugger. But at least
I can rest with the knowledge that
BJ surely won their first fight
& effectively... is STILL lightweight
champ because of it since he
wrongfully got robbed by edgar's
Arab friends in the emirates

 

[felmmando]

cain was tooled by werrdum, and penn was tooled by frankie, but frankie didnt finish penn.

Frankie did finish Penn. The other times they clashed he beat him but he didn't tool him.

 

[CostumedExtrmst]

honestly, jones reminds me of the way conor is at 145. the larger guy beating up the smaller fighters in the division. the moment jones fought someone his own size, he got his ass kicked. if jones moves up to heavyweight, he gets finished by one of them in my opinion.

He has not been finished as of this post. That is what this post is about. Why are you trying to derail his thread with your whiny bullshit?

 

[hot carl]

Frankie did finish Penn. The other times they clashed he beat him but he didn't tool him.

sure he did.

 

[felmmando]

sure he did.

You're entitled to your opinion but a non-trivial segment of the audience thought Penn had actually won the first match.

 

[JayElectra]

For most fighters, yes. For a select few, no.

 

[Glumberjack]

The only guy I can think of who had a long career without being finished in the traditional sense is Chris Lytle. He had some cuts stop fights, but he never got stopped by strikes or submitted.

Frankie Edgar, Demetrious Johnson and Jon Jones are yet to be finished. We'll see if any of them can make it to retirement without being stopped.

 

[Dorkman]

If you don't duck certain styles, yeah i'd say odds are probably good you'd eventually be finished if you're always fighting the elite.

 

[IIIIIIII]

He has not been finished as of this post. That is what this post is about. Why are you trying to derail his thread with your whiny bullshit?

no one is derailing anything. you are the one whining in this thread. how about being respectful to an opinion that differs from yours? you'll look less childish. that i can assure you.