As a Frenchman I'm glad BSD got exposed for good

[Hazuki Ryo]

We knew he had the ability to put pressure on anybody. We knew he had heart and determination. But he was not quite the technical artist.

Seeing him claiming he had better ground game than Islam made me angry. Seeing him trading with Poirier in the pocket and getting dropped confirmed my fears.

Now he thinks he can give his back to a fighter like Moicano and escape any situation on the ground. He thought he could handle him with his butterfly guard and find an opportunity. Well now he learned the hard way he sometimes needs to play safe.

His lazy kick reminded me Weidman VS Rockhold fight. And now he lost in brutal fashion two fights in a row right after dumping his long time coach and friend Woirin. Let that be a lesson!

 

[Nigol]

And moicano fought the entire fight with a dislocated ac joint

 

[Willie]

He lost because of his style and lack of experience not because of his separation with Woirin. I hope he got slapped with a bit of humility and he will realise he has nothing for the guys at the top.

 

[Busgosu]

He had staph bro!

 

[Hazuki Ryo]

He lost because of his style and lack of experience not because of his separation with Woirin. I hope he got slapped with a bit of humility and he will realise he has nothing for the guys at the top.

Yeah well woirin had better things to say than his actual staff. They were just clueless in between the rounds

 

[sonhow]

He lost because of his style and lack of experience not because of his separation with Woirin. I hope he got slapped with a bit of humility and he will realise he has nothing for the guys at the top.

Thinking he has nothing for guys at the top is about as terrible mindset as one can have in mma

So lets hope not!

 

[NoSmilez]

I wasn't quite sure what was his style. It seems like he can do a little bit of everything but he isn't elite at any facet of MMA.

 

[fortheo]

Yeah, he needs a big ass step back. He should draw inspiration from moicano though. Moicano got knocked out by Aldo, zombie, and Fiziev almost in succession when he was like 29 or 30, then climbed back and has been on his best run now at 35. Many top lightweights have similar stories to that, moicano, hooker, poirier, gaethje, Charles etc etc etc....all got knocked out pretty badly a few times and then climbed back in their 30s. BSD is 28.......

Has BSD taken too much damage to be able to rebound? Maybe. He needs to show serious signs of improvement, and I haven't seen them yet, so I won't hold my breath on him climbing back up to big opportunities. But we will see. It won't be completely shocking if he does considering how many other LW fighters have climbed the rankings after similar set backs at a similar age....I'm just not counting on it anymore.

I'll still watch his fights and hope for the best though.

 

[chardog]

Maybe despite his cheary face, moicano is a beast? People sleep on the guy because he has some losses, but he’s a big, strong, smart fighter.

 

[Hazuki Ryo]

Yeah, he needs a big ass step back. He should draw inspiration from moicano though. Moicano got knocked out by Aldo, zombie, and Fiziev almost in succession when he was like 29 or 30, then climbed back and has been on his best run now at 35. Many top lightweights have similar stories to that, moicano, hooker, poirier, gaethje, Charles etc etc etc....all got knocked out pretty badly a few times and then climbed back in their 30s. BSD is 28.......

Has BSD taken too much damage to be able to rebound? Maybe. He needs to show serious signs of improvement, and I haven't seen them yet, so I won't hold my breath on him climbing back up to big opportunities. But we will see. It won't be completely shocking if he does considering how many other LW fighters have climbed the rankings after similar set backs at a similar age....I'm just not counting on it anymore.

I'll still watch his fights and hope for the best though.

Yeah guys like moicano and Charles needed to gain experience before climbing the rankings. And they needed a great staff too

 

[fortheo]

Yeah guys like moicano and Charles needed to gain experience before climbing the rankings. And they needed a great staff too

I knew bsd left woirin, but I didn't know why, nor did I think it was a bad thing because I didn't see as much development in BSD while he was with woirin as I think we should have. BSD was so new to the game that he should have been making rapid noob gains, but he was improving at a snail pace with woirin, which was a bad sign to me.

Which of his current coaches do you have issues with at the moment? From what I understand bsd has many chefs in the kitchen -- Louis mariano Gonzales for boxing, cross trains in bulgaria for wrestling -- and he seems stubbornly loyal to the camp that he was at even before woirin took him under his wing (cyfit with Christophe savoca).

 

[spinup]

He lost because of his style and lack of experience not because of his separation with Woirin. I hope he got slapped with a bit of humility and he will realise he has nothing for the guys at the top.

I don't know about Woirin, but his corner advice last night sounded absolutely awful.
After the 1st round, they had not a single useful advice, just pure panic, and urging him to "get excited".
After the 2nd round, where BSD won it by keeping on the feet, all they were telling him was to wrestle.

 

[Willie]

Thinking he has nothing for guys at the top is about as terrible mindset as one can have in mma

So lets hope not!

He did say a while ago that Makhachev's ground game was bad which is just plain stupid and I am pretty sure that he meant it. After two losses like that he seriously needs some serious questioning. Saying he has nothing for the top guys maybe a bit harsh but right now this is what it looks like.

 

[Hazuki Ryo]

I knew bsd left woirin, but I didn't know why, nor did I think it was a bad thing because I didn't see as much development in BSD while he was with woirin as I think we should have. BSD was so new to the game that he should have been making rapid noob gains, but he was improving at a snail pace with woirin, which was a bad sign to me.

Which of his current coaches do you have issues with at the moment? From what I understand bsd has many chefs in the kitchen -- Louis mariano Gonzales for boxing, cross trains in bulgaria for wrestling -- and he seems stubbornly loyal to the camp that he was at even before woirin took him under his wing (cyfit with Christophe savoca).

I don't know.. I think he got a fresh new start at 155 after his loss to elizeu. He beat guys above him and was exciting. Like Charles in his early days he was bringing hell to his opponents but we could see his technical flaws.

I don't know if it's something that can be fixed easily (look at rockhold or doo ho choi) but I had the feeling Woirin had much more experience in the high level fighting scene (having coached Machida, Hendo, Anderson...).

His corner advice was awful yesterday.. Don't know if they're heading in the right direction because the way he got himself in trouble reminded me of Gane throwing a lazy cross at Jones.

 

[fortheo]

I don't know.. I think he got a fresh new start at 155 after his loss to elizeu. He beat guys above him and was exciting. Like Charles in his early days he was bringing hell to his opponents but we could see his technical flaws.

I don't know if it's something that can be fixed easily (look at rockhold or doo ho choi) but I had the feeling Woirin had much more experience in the high level fighting scene (having coached Machida, Hendo, Anderson...).

His corner advice was awful yesterday.. Don't know if they're heading in the right direction because the way he got himself in trouble reminded me of Gane throwing a lazy jab at Jones.

I'm with you in questioning his current corner. I just don't think woirin was doing much better to be honest. I don't often call for fighters to change camps, but I think bsd would be a great fit for somewhere like kings MMA with cordeiro, or even AKA. I suspect that bsd is too stubborn, though.

 

[Rum that Chimay-Leffe]

Benoît devrait accepter la proposition de Moicano

Ou bien aller en Russie s'entraîner avec les Daghestanis

Il a un QI de combat assez faible malgré ses évidentes qualités physiques, et il s'est très mal entouré

 

[sonhow]

He did say a while ago that Makhachev's ground game was bad which is just plain stupid and I am pretty sure that he meant it. After two losses like that he seriously needs some serious questioning. Saying he has nothing for the top guys maybe a bit harsh but right now this is what it looks like.

Its just talk. Words dont seem to have defenitive meanings anymore. I may not like it either but it is what it is. Unfortunately.

 

[Hazuki Ryo]

I'm with you in questioning his current corner. I just don't think woirin was doing much better to be honest. I don't often call for fighters to change camps, but I think bsd would be a great fit for somewhere like kings MMA with cordeiro, or even AKA. I suspect that bsd is too stubborn, though.

France doesn't have great fight camps yet. He needs to go to Brazil or the US to sharpen his tools. I agree.

 

[fortheo]

Benoît devrait accepter la proposition de Moicano

Ou bien aller en Russie s'entraîner avec les Daghestanis

Il a un QI de combat assez faible malgré ses évidentes qualités physiques, et il s'est très mal entouré

Moicano a offert de s'entrainer avec benoit? J'ai du mal à le voir s'entrainer en russe après avoir accusé Islam de doping.

 

[StonedLemur]

He had staph bro!

lol