As a former JJ (hater)...

[1mmaobserver]

I cannot wait to see JJ back in the octagon against a last minute replacement. As far as GOAT status though, I just cant give him that accolade on the simple fact that Bones's BJJ has never really been seen before. Granted, he hasn't much needed BJJ in his fights, But the real Goat, FEDOR, could scramble off his back, and has quite a few submissions.
You see GOaT means, greatest of ALL time, not current best in the world.
That being said, I am a fan of JBJ, and look forward to the new and improved JBJ. Also, good luck OSP, much hespect, seize the day.

#war shane carwin.

 

[gspieler]

Jones isn't the GOAT, but not for the reason you mention.

 

[skolar182]

I've always been a fan of Jon Jones the fighter because he's always proven that he deserves to be at the top. I wasn't a fan of how he handled himself outside of the octagon (legal issues, interviews, etc..) But I was glad to see him smiling during the weigh-ins while showing respect to his fans and employers. He looked legitimately stoked to be back. I hope this is a turning point in his life and he comes out strong.

 

[BigMuffler]

I cannot wait to see JJ back in the octagon against a last minute replacement. As far as GOAT status though, I just cant give him that accolade on the simple fact that Bones's BJJ has never really been seen before. Granted, he hasn't much needed BJJ in his fights, But the real Goat, FEDOR, could scramble off his back, and has quite a few submissions.
You see GOaT means, greatest of ALL time, not current best in the world.
That being said, I am a fan of JBJ, and look forward to the new and improved JBJ. Also, good luck OSP, much hespect, seize the day.

#war shane carwin.

Jones has several submissions. If you mean he hasn't shown BJJ off his back, well why be on your back if you don't have to?

 

[The Natural Born Runner]

Am I the only one that thought he was talking about Joanna?

 

[BigDaddyBach]

JBJ looks ridiculous. I got a feeling we are gonna see something special tomorrow.

I felt his rise to Machida was arguably the greatest, most dominant ascension we have ever seen. People say he stopped looking o dominant because the comp got better. I dont buy it. I think he was boozing, smoking the heefer and blowing yay (and was called a hater for suggesting such). I also think he is cleaned out now and dedicated for the first time since Shogun and he is going to do very, very, very bad things to JBJ. If Cormier is lucky, JBJ will relapse after the fight.. The odds should be -4800, not -480, especially if Ronda was at -1200 vs Holm.

 

[Me&MrJones]

A GOAT wouldn't get submitted by Werdum or lose to Dan Henderson.

 

[sirmorbach]

Why did you write "hater" like (this)?

 

[skysolo]

Which JJ?

Spelling out the name first would give context to whom you are speaking about.

 

[Conor McTouchbutt]

Jones has several submissions. If you mean he hasn't shown BJJ off his back, well why be on your back if you don't have to?

Exactly, I dont get the OPs reasoning behind that at all LOL. I'd say Bones' submissions of Vitor/Machida/Bader and Rampage were all pretty damn impressive

 

[The Natural Born Runner]

I cannot wait to see JJ back in the octagon against a last minute replacement. As far as GOAT status though, I just cant give him that accolade on the simple fact that Bones's BJJ has never really been seen before. Granted, he hasn't much needed BJJ in his fights, But the real Goat, FEDOR, could scramble off his back, and has quite a few submissions.
You see GOaT means, greatest of ALL time, not current best in the world.
That being said, I am a fan of JBJ, and look forward to the new and improved JBJ. Also, good luck OSP, much hespect, seize the day.

#war shane carwin.

Huh?

Lemme show you some:

Now... where were we?

 

[1mmaobserver]

JBJ looks ridiculous. I got a feeling we are gonna see something special tomorrow.

I felt his rise to Machida was arguably the greatest, most dominant ascension we have ever seen. People say he stopped looking o dominant because the comp got better. I dont buy it. I think he was boozing, smoking the heefer and blowing yay (and was called a hater for suggesting such). I also think he is cleaned out now and dedicated for the first time since Shogun and he is going to do very, very, very bad things to JBJ. If Cormier is lucky, JBJ will relapse after the fight.. The odds should be -4800, not -480, especially if Ronda was at -1200 vs Holm.

That is for sure, ESECIALLY since HH was a 37-0 WORLD CHAMPION boxer. fuck i wish i had thrown down at least a hundo on that one. could have parlayed 100 into 20k that night, fuck!!! lol

 

[BostonToughGuy]

Am I the only one that thought he was talking about Joanna?

Nope. I came into this thread ready to trash TS for his past sins.

 

[1mmaobserver]

Huh?

Lemme show you some:

Now... where were we?

are you talking about waaaay past prime rampage, vitor, machida? nice gifs though

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

I used to be a hater too but his ability can't be denied.
I want to see him pull his shit together and make a run in the Octagon the likes of which can't be touched

 

[1mmaobserver]

Nope. I came into this thread ready to trash TS for his past sins.

Jerkaderk is one of my favs of all fighter. killer in the cage, and conducts herself (speaks) well outside of the cage. as long as she stays away from bullshit interviews like the skanks on the view, ellen, good morning america, etc. wish she would rip a bitches head off and punt it.

 

[BigMuffler]

are you talking about waaaay past prime rampage, vitor, machida? nice gifs though

A more past prime Vitor KTFO Rockhold didn't he?

A more past prime Machida took Weidman to a competitive decision.

 

[1mmaobserver]

I used to be a hater too but his ability can't be denied.
I want to see him pull his shit together and make a run in the Octagon the likes of which can't be touched

IF/when he moves up to HW, wins the gold, and defends like at LHW, he THEN, will become, the GOAT. War JBJ
ShaneCarwinBless

 

[1mmaobserver]

A more past prime Vitor KTFO Rockhold didn't he?

IT

A more past prime Vitor KTFO Rockhold didn't he?

A more past prime Machida took Weidman to a competitive decision.

Oh you should see what science (super drugs) can do these days, bring a man back from the grave.

 

[The Natural Born Runner]

are you talking about waaaay past prime rampage, vitor, machida? nice gifs though

Oh so BJJ doesn't count if they are "past it", cool story bro.

Guess Mir would never have submitted Nog, if Nog was in his prime and not past it, right? Let's just take it away.

Ermmm... Machida and Vitor were hardly "past it" either.

Machida was 32. He was 17-2, and one loss was a controversial loss to Rampage where he took zero damage.

How is that "past it"?

How long you been on Sherdog? You not heard about the jokes people got on here, about TRT Vitor?

Well let me educate you for a moment. You honestly think Vitor was "past it" during his TRT spell? Where the guy looked like he went through puberty for the 3rd time?

Here's a picture:

PS: The man had just kicked the head off of Henderson, Rockhold and Bisping #JustSaying