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This guy is trying to provide some details about why he thinks we are in a hell realm.
what do you think



i could believe it, there really is a lot of suffering and misery just with life. I'm glad I never had kids, this place is terrible and most people are too brainwashed to really comprehend a lot of it. Give a cell phone and they're cool.
 
It is.

I can empathize with you though.
LoL dude wants to offer to feel sorry for me. Am I happier than you ? How is your relationship with God ? With your parents ? Are you happy with your purpose ? Do you love life and God ? What makes you happy.
 
its a heaven on earth,so here , what we can offer you is :

  • Violence between humans
    • Wars, terrorism, and genocide where millions are killed.
    • Murders, abuse, and exploitation within families, even of children and elders.

  • Systemic suffering
    • Widespread poverty and hunger while extreme wealth and excess exist elsewhere.
    • Exploitation of vulnerable groups for labor, trafficking, or profit.
    • Governments and corporations prioritizing power and profit over human well-being.

  • Animal suffering
    • Industrial farming, where billions of animals are bred, confined, and killed for food each year , even though humans can survive, and in many cases live healthier and longer lives, without eating animals.
    • Cruelty in entertainment, testing, and neglect of companion animals.
    • Animals trapped in zoos
    • The natural order itself: predators killing prey in violent ways just to survive.

  • Psychological and emotional torment
    • Mental illnesses like depression, anxiety, addiction, and loneliness are widespread.
    • Societal pressures causing stress, alienation, and meaninglessness.
    • Heartbreak, betrayal, and loneliness can overshadow moments of joy.

  • Environmental destruction
    • Deforestation, climate change, and pollution causing suffering to humans, animals, and ecosystems.
    • Countless species going extinct due to human activity.

  • Hypocrisy and deception
    • Lies, propaganda, and corruption shaping society.
    • Leaders or institutions that promise protection but cause harm.

  • Mortality and fragility of life
    • Every being is destined to age, suffer, and die , often in pain or fear.
    • Sudden tragedies (accidents, disasters, illnesses) that bring immense suffering without warning.
    • Even with immense wealth or power, no one can escape sickness, emotional pain, accidents, or death.
    • Powerful people can still be lonely, deeply unhappy, handicapped, or struck by random misfortune.

  • Existential uncertainty
    • We don’t know why we are here, where exactly “here” is, or who/what created this place.
    • Life often feels less like a gift and more like a test of endurance.
    • Instead of lasting joy, people mostly experience suffering: stressful work, lack of money, death of loved ones, breakups, betrayals, illnesses, and disappointments.
    • The balance seems tilted , there appears to be much more suffering than pleasure.
 
its a heaven on earth,so here , what we can offer you is :

  • Violence between humans
    • Wars, terrorism, and genocide where millions are killed.
    • Murders, abuse, and exploitation within families, even of children and elders.

  • Systemic suffering
    • Widespread poverty and hunger while extreme wealth and excess exist elsewhere.
    • Exploitation of vulnerable groups for labor, trafficking, or profit.
    • Governments and corporations prioritizing power and profit over human well-being.

  • Animal suffering
    • Industrial farming, where billions of animals are bred, confined, and killed for food each year , even though humans can survive, and in many cases live healthier and longer lives, without eating animals.
    • Cruelty in entertainment, testing, and neglect of companion animals.
    • Animals trapped in zoos
    • The natural order itself: predators killing prey in violent ways just to survive.

  • Psychological and emotional torment
    • Mental illnesses like depression, anxiety, addiction, and loneliness are widespread.
    • Societal pressures causing stress, alienation, and meaninglessness.
    • Heartbreak, betrayal, and loneliness can overshadow moments of joy.

  • Environmental destruction
    • Deforestation, climate change, and pollution causing suffering to humans, animals, and ecosystems.
    • Countless species going extinct due to human activity.

  • Hypocrisy and deception
    • Lies, propaganda, and corruption shaping society.
    • Leaders or institutions that promise protection but cause harm.

  • Mortality and fragility of life
    • Every being is destined to age, suffer, and die , often in pain or fear.
    • Sudden tragedies (accidents, disasters, illnesses) that bring immense suffering without warning.
    • Even with immense wealth or power, no one can escape sickness, emotional pain, accidents, or death.
    • Powerful people can still be lonely, deeply unhappy, handicapped, or struck by random misfortune.

  • Existential uncertainty
    • We don’t know why we are here, where exactly “here” is, or who/what created this place.
    • Life often feels less like a gift and more like a test of endurance.
    • Instead of lasting joy, people mostly experience suffering: stressful work, lack of money, death of loved ones, breakups, betrayals, illnesses, and disappointments.
    • The balance seems tilted , there appears to be much more suffering than pleasure.

You missed out coke and hookers.........
 
i could believe it, there really is a lot of suffering and misery just with life. I'm glad I never had kids, this place is terrible and most people are too brainwashed to really comprehend a lot of it. Give a cell phone and they're cool.
Agreed. I always thought that I could never bring a child into this world, especially considering my generation and the knees before it completely fucked it up with carbon emissions, and tell them “It’s up to you to fix it.”

And then the world only got much, much worse. So it was the right call even in retrospect.
 
Hell can be situational or a state of mind. I see examples of it every day. I drove through Philly last week and saw the drugged-out Zombies leaning over in suspended animation due to Flakka. Seems like hell. Saw an interview with a Jew that was a Hamas hostage, and that seemed like hell. I saw a guy in Brooklyn sleeping in a 2ft space between two shitty buildings filled with garbage. Hell.
Meanwhile yesterday, I dove in the ocean and road waves all day soaking up the sun and relaxing....seemed like heaven.
 
its a heaven on earth,so here , what we can offer you is :

  • Violence between humans
    • Wars, terrorism, and genocide where millions are killed.
    • Murders, abuse, and exploitation within families, even of children and elders.

  • Systemic suffering
    • Widespread poverty and hunger while extreme wealth and excess exist elsewhere.
    • Exploitation of vulnerable groups for labor, trafficking, or profit.
    • Governments and corporations prioritizing power and profit over human well-being.

  • Animal suffering
    • Industrial farming, where billions of animals are bred, confined, and killed for food each year , even though humans can survive, and in many cases live healthier and longer lives, without eating animals.
    • Cruelty in entertainment, testing, and neglect of companion animals.
    • Animals trapped in zoos
    • The natural order itself: predators killing prey in violent ways just to survive.

  • Psychological and emotional torment
    • Mental illnesses like depression, anxiety, addiction, and loneliness are widespread.
    • Societal pressures causing stress, alienation, and meaninglessness.
    • Heartbreak, betrayal, and loneliness can overshadow moments of joy.

  • Environmental destruction
    • Deforestation, climate change, and pollution causing suffering to humans, animals, and ecosystems.
    • Countless species going extinct due to human activity.

  • Hypocrisy and deception
    • Lies, propaganda, and corruption shaping society.
    • Leaders or institutions that promise protection but cause harm.

  • Mortality and fragility of life
    • Every being is destined to age, suffer, and die , often in pain or fear.
    • Sudden tragedies (accidents, disasters, illnesses) that bring immense suffering without warning.
    • Even with immense wealth or power, no one can escape sickness, emotional pain, accidents, or death.
    • Powerful people can still be lonely, deeply unhappy, handicapped, or struck by random misfortune.

  • Existential uncertainty
    • We don’t know why we are here, where exactly “here” is, or who/what created this place.
    • Life often feels less like a gift and more like a test of endurance.
    • Instead of lasting joy, people mostly experience suffering: stressful work, lack of money, death of loved ones, breakups, betrayals, illnesses, and disappointments.
    • The balance seems tilted , there appears to be much more suffering than pleasure.
While it's true there's seemingly insurmountable amounts of suffering on this earth, there's also a lot of good stuff. If it truly were hell, it'd be just 100% bad instead of mostly bad.
Joy doesn't last but neither does suffering. For the vast majority of people, I doubt they are suffering all the time without at least some moments of joy throughout their entire life.
 
While it's true there's seemingly insurmountable amounts of suffering on this earth, there's also a lot of good stuff. If it truly were hell, it'd be just 100% bad instead of mostly bad.
Joy doesn't last but neither does suffering. For the vast majority of people, I doubt they are suffering all the time without at least some moments of joy throughout their entire life.
Its not just people its animals that suffer even more and what for? This is hell.
 
While it's true there's seemingly insurmountable amounts of suffering on this earth, there's also a lot of good stuff. If it truly were hell, it'd be just 100% bad instead of mostly bad.
Joy doesn't last but neither does suffering. For the vast majority of people, I doubt they are suffering all the time without at least some moments of joy throughout their entire life.
Without suffering, how would we know joy?

Some of the most miserable people I know have access to unlimited “joy” and almost zero experience suffering.
 
LoL dude wants to offer to feel sorry for me. Am I happier than you ? How is your relationship with God ? With your parents ? Are you happy with your purpose ? Do you love life and God ? What makes you happy.
I feel it with you. I was in a similar place in my mid 20s.

What makes me happy is creating a life for my kids and family affording them opportunities that I never had while still being healthy and able to pursue my own dreams.

Last winter my son started riding black diamonds and my 8 year old daughter became skilled enough to take the ski lift to the summit and ride together with the entire family. We go on 4 snowboarding trips each winter as a family. I get to snowboard at least every other week all winter with my buddies and a few professional snowboarder that I'm friends with.

I'm also a black belt in bjj (did 8 mma fight when I was younger) and have been training for 25 years. My wife is a 3 stripe blue belt and both my kids have been training for 3 years. Watching them progress and be in love with a sport that's given me so much is amazing.

Most of my extended family is healthy and doing well. My kids have both sets of grandparents and one great grandmother. We live nearby and see them weekly.

We also have a lot of cousins and Aunts and Uncles that we see a couple times a month and on all holidays. We usually get at least 1 vacation in per year with each set of Aunts and Uncles and cousins.

I have several fairly successful businesses. I won't go into specifics but I haven't had job with a paycheck since 2014. I struggled a lot for tge first 6 yeara but the last 5 years have been excellent to me.

As far as God goes I'm Christian and pray daily. My kids go to Catholic school. I don't particularly belive in all the semantics of organized religion but maintaining an ethos of being honest, kind and fair with others and sending positive energy out into the ether has done well for me. I use my businesses to help the local community through fundraisers and things like that.

My only advice is to just keep trying. Even when things aren't working out you just have to keep moving forward even if it's getting 1 thing done per day. Life will happen whether you're participating or not and every achievement compounds like a snowball rolling down a hill.

The earlier in life you get momentum on your side the faster things begin to work for you around you.
 
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its a heaven on earth,so here , what we can offer you is :

  • Violence between humans
    • Wars, terrorism, and genocide where millions are killed.
    • Murders, abuse, and exploitation within families, even of children and elders.

  • Systemic suffering
    • Widespread poverty and hunger while extreme wealth and excess exist elsewhere.
    • Exploitation of vulnerable groups for labor, trafficking, or profit.
    • Governments and corporations prioritizing power and profit over human well-being.

  • Animal suffering
    • Industrial farming, where billions of animals are bred, confined, and killed for food each year , even though humans can survive, and in many cases live healthier and longer lives, without eating animals.
    • Cruelty in entertainment, testing, and neglect of companion animals.
    • Animals trapped in zoos
    • The natural order itself: predators killing prey in violent ways just to survive.

  • Psychological and emotional torment
    • Mental illnesses like depression, anxiety, addiction, and loneliness are widespread.
    • Societal pressures causing stress, alienation, and meaninglessness.
    • Heartbreak, betrayal, and loneliness can overshadow moments of joy.

  • Environmental destruction
    • Deforestation, climate change, and pollution causing suffering to humans, animals, and ecosystems.
    • Countless species going extinct due to human activity.

  • Hypocrisy and deception
    • Lies, propaganda, and corruption shaping society.
    • Leaders or institutions that promise protection but cause harm.

  • Mortality and fragility of life
    • Every being is destined to age, suffer, and die , often in pain or fear.
    • Sudden tragedies (accidents, disasters, illnesses) that bring immense suffering without warning.
    • Even with immense wealth or power, no one can escape sickness, emotional pain, accidents, or death.
    • Powerful people can still be lonely, deeply unhappy, handicapped, or struck by random misfortune.

  • Existential uncertainty
    • We don’t know why we are here, where exactly “here” is, or who/what created this place.
    • Life often feels less like a gift and more like a test of endurance.
    • Instead of lasting joy, people mostly experience suffering: stressful work, lack of money, death of loved ones, breakups, betrayals, illnesses, and disappointments.
    • The balance seems tilted , there appears to be much more suffering than pleasure.
We are fvcked up beings LOL
 
I think humans have made it that on some level but no............ its not..
 
Would he really be able to wax poetic while drinking a tallboy just chillin' in his yard if this were actually hell?

Me thinks not.

While one person is waxing poetic about hell, another person is being starved to death as their family is bombed. Maybe it makes it a bit worse to the person being treated in a hellacious way by fate. In that sense this guy contributes in some small way to someone elses torture. Maybe the form of hell we are in invites participation
 
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