Fear the Menanite!!!
- Aug 1, 2002
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Are there any differences in how Sombo and BJJ go bout leg, foot, ankle etc locks? Are there differences in how they set the attacks up, finish them. etc? Thanks!
sambosteve said:The final lock is the same. Honestly, a kneebar is a kneebar, heel hook is a heel hook, etc.... What is different is how one gets there to the final submission. The grappling philosophy is different - movement, use of position, timing, etc. But in the end, the final submission is the same.
Agreed, just because chokes are missing from the sporting side of Sambo, a lot of people assume that they are'nt taught or practiced. My Sambo classes always included a full overview of all grappling, we just ditched some of the moves to fit into competition rules and trained them the rest of the time in sparring.sambosteve said:Lots of sambo coaches do teach chokes. In fact, most of the sambo coaches I know do. It often depends on their background. If they were mainly sport guys, no chokes. But, if they were military/combat guys, they teach chokes. Also, in Russia, most sambo guys are also judo guys and know their chokes very well. My coach always taught chokes and I teach chokes. We train for the specific rules but, the art does have chokes. On an interesting side note, sport sambo included chokes prior to WWII. I suspect they dropped them to distance themselves from Japan and Judo after the war.
sambosteve said:I don't know of a comprehensive on-line site that does good justice to sambo movement philosophy. I would suggest the "Sambo for Professional's" series. It is an incredible instructional computer program. http://www.sambolessons.borec.ru/dou.php
My coach used the following phrases akin to BJJ's "position before submission". He would say...
"No Gaps", "Movement first, submission second", and my favorite..."Stillness is death"..LOL.
You can check out this site, it is not all that fantastic but it has some stuff on it: