are the gracies religious?

Who the hell cares? Talk about judging people. I am not a religious person AT ALL, far from it, but I don't go around and judge others because of what they believe. I follow the gracies because they are good at what they do. Just like I study Galvao, Mendez, Marcello, Ryan, etc. because of their jiu jitsu, not their religious preference. I follow practitioners that have good morals quality and integrity. Get off that horse man.

Atheists have become as bad as bible thumpers nowadays.
 
Atheists have become as bad as bible thumpers nowadays.

Religious fundamentalists, be they Christian, Muslim or Atheist are illogical and refuse to listen to reason. I guess that applies to fundamentalists in all walks of life (TMA's etc).
 
If you think about it, Jesus Christ was the ultimate example of Jiu Jitsu.

Jesus Christ’s Mission – Offer salvation to his creation while simultaneously judging the devil.

1. Jiu Jitsu is about using your opponent’s actions to your own advantage.

The devil wanted to murder Jesus. Jesus allowed himself to betrayed and brought to the cross. Jesus voluntarily gave up his life because his mission was to pay for our sin. You and I cannot pay for our own sin. And, the penalty of sin is death. However, Jesus was sinless and chose to die in our place to pay for our sin. The devils murderous plans were used against him.


2. Jiu Jitsu is about attacking weakness with leverage.

The devils pride is his weakness. Pride is why he was cast out of heaven. The Devil is too proud to accept the sinless sacrifice of Jesus Christ. Therefore, Jesus used this weakness against him. God was able to offer salvation to men that will accept his sacrifice on the cross. And, God simultaneously put Satan under judgment to be cast into the lake of fire for all eternity.

End Result – Jesus won. The devil lost. Salvation is offered as a gift to those that accept Jesus Christ. And the devil is under judgment because his pride will not allow himself to worship God and accept this gift.

Game, set, match.
 
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Jesus got put in the Crucifix easily. Does he even train?

Cute. It was a sacrifice technique.

He was no wimp. With just a whip, he cleaned out an entire temple full of money changers.
 
Cute. It was a sacrifice technique.

He was no wimp. With just a whip, he cleaned out an entire temple full of money changers.

He died. Pretty sure that's a loss under IBJJF rules.
 
Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. (Revelation 12-3)

Kinda sounds as probable as the easter bunny to me.
 
Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. (Revelation 12-3)

Kinda sounds as probable as the easter bunny to me.

agreed they are equally insane in my eyes

I feel the same way about the easter bunny as I do with that red dragon
 
Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. (Revelation 12-3)

Kinda sounds as probable as the easter bunny to me.

do you understand that this is considered a prophecy not to be taken literally? it is not a science book.
 
Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. (Revelation 12-3)

Kinda sounds as probable as the easter bunny to me.

I could explain it to you. But, it would be like explaining reverse de la riva to a white belt on his first day.

Here is something you can understand,

16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
 
The numbers are - luckily- dropping
(I'm brazilian, I'm an atheist)

why would this be lucky?

you have christians who are commanded to love their neighbor as well as love their enemy, to not lie or cheat or steal or fuck someone else's wife

vs atheists who believe in nothing

history tells us we all like living better in christian countries

or try living in communist china or any other atheist shitholes
 
would you be disappointed if your hero believed in the easter bunny?

also I don't think you understand how free speech works, you have the right to believe something and I have the right to tell you its dumb.

anyway this thread is quickly gonna go into a religious debate but I was just wondering if the gracies are religious considering they are very spiritual and from Brazil where 90% of people are christian

well, you would be quite stupid if you could not tell the difference between the easter bunny and God.

and you don't want to have a debate (because you would get beat) but bring up jackass shit like your post

at least christians have proof of their faith
i take it you are an atheist who believes God does not exist, but you have not one piece of proof this is true
so you operate on blind faith with no reason
and you are butthurt over christians

most of the best people have been religious
while the most prolific mass murderers have all been atheists. funny how that works
 
I could explain it to you. But, it would be like explaining reverse de la riva to a white belt on his first day.

Here is something you can understand,

16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

Slaves, accept the authority of your masters with all deference, not only those who are kind and gentle but also those who are harsh. - Peter 2:18
 
well, you would be quite stupid if you could not tell the difference between the easter bunny and God.

and you don't want to have a debate (because you would get beat) but bring up jackass shit like your post

at least christians have proof of their faith
i take it you are an atheist who believes God does not exist, but you have not one piece of proof this is true
so you operate on blind faith with no reason
and you are butthurt over christians

most of the best people have been religious
while the most prolific mass murderers have all been atheists. funny how that works

my belief is simple...I believe there lacks sufficient evidence for the existence of god...therefore I simply have an absence of belief...as opposed to the firm view of saying there is no god

I feel the same way about the easter bunny

santa clause

spaghetti monster

zeus

and so on
 
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Slaves, accept the authority of your masters with all deference, not only those who are kind and gentle but also those who are harsh. - Peter 2:18

a slave that doesnt obey would obviously be a bad slave /aristotle
 
Slaves, accept the authority of your masters with all deference, not only those who are kind and gentle but also those who are harsh. - Peter 2:18

You are avoiding the core issue. Jesus said,

"Unless you believe I am he (Messiah), you will die in your sins"

Tap or snap really does apply.
 
How is this even relevant in this subforum?
 
How is this even relevant in this subforum?

clearly this thread represents an empirical study. as we can see, evangelical atheism apparently correlates with buttflopping and gracie fanboyism, not a stirring endorsement.
 
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