Anyone see Apocalypto? Spoiler Alert (even though it's 14 yrs old)

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I just watched it and had some questions. It seems that they Mayan kingdom represented in this film was during the classical period. Considering they abandoned the large cities by 900ad I was curious what the hell the Spanish were doing there 500 years early? They have a scene as well that shows a mother dead from small pocks and a child afflicted by the disease. I think most of us know that the Spanish brought that over around 1400. Also it seemed as though they mixed two different cultures together, the Mayans and the Aztecs and just sort on went prison rules from then on. I dunno, give your thoughts sherbros.
 
Movies aren't documentaries


They don't really care about accuracy.
 
spin_ said:
Movies aren't documentaries
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I didn't really like it.


It was a lot of set up for what amounted to a chase scene movie.


There was a lot of that time period, or scene to explore, but it just ended up as backdrop for the chase
 
Your guessing isn't as good as you think it is. You are pretending to have this set knowledge of how it went down, but it's just likely bs, unless you'e getting lucky.

The cities were not (I'm making educated guesses) likely abandoned completely that quickly. It probably happened over longer periods, and there were probably some there when the Spanish got there. The Indians who used to mass execute babies and people at the temples were there for a long time; that was portrayed, without the babies. Much of what was portrayed gives a fictional, yet realistic portrayal of what was going down. You had your small tribes always looking out from other small tribes, and then you had your bigger city tribes who had started to grasp some astronomy and calender workings, respectively.

The Spanish came, and the majority of the city natives jumped on board, because it was a more advanced civilization.
 
i didn't know any of that chronology and probably wouldn't have noticed it when watching the movie.
 
WaylonMercy5150 said:
I just watched it and had some questions. It seems that they Mayan kingdom represented in this film was during the classical period. Considering they abandoned the large cities by 900ad I was curious what the hell the Spanish were doing there 500 years early? I think most of us know that the Spanish brought that over around 1400. I dunno, give your thoughts sherbros.
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That was a great movie and you bring up some good points.
. Spanish came to the Americas in 1492.
. The Aztec were conquered by the Spanish in 1521.
. The Maya were conquered by the Spanish in 1523. Cortés sent Pedro de Alvarado to conquer the Maya in Guatemala.

The ending of the film was meant to depict the first contact between the Spaniards and Mayas that took place in 1502 during the fourth voyage of Christopher Columbus.

 
Phr3121 said:
That was a great movie and you bring up some good points.
. Spanish came to the Americas in 1492.
. The Aztec were conquered by the Spanish in 1521.
. The Maya were conquered by the Spanish in 1523. Cortés sent Pedro de Alvarado to conquer the Maya in Guatemala.

The ending of the film was meant to depict the first contact between the Spaniards and Mayas that took place in 1502 during the fourth voyage of Christopher Columbus.

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It's just the famine and crop destruction that the film depicted actually happened to the Mayans around 900 AD. The fall of the Mayans happened long before the Spanish came.
 
WaylonMercy5150 said:
I just watched it and had some questions. It seems that they Mayan kingdom represented in this film was during the classical period. Considering they abandoned the large cities by 900ad I was curious what the hell the Spanish were doing there 500 years early? They have a scene as well that shows a mother dead from small pocks and a child afflicted by the disease. I think most of us know that the Spanish brought that over around 1400. Also it seemed as though they mixed two different cultures together, the Mayans and the Aztecs and just sort on went prison rules from then on. I dunno, give your thoughts sherbros.
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are you a big fan of this type of film genre?

have you watched ...

Lost City of Z? I haven't seen it yet but heard it's good.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1212428/?ref_=nv_sr_1


two movies that I highly recommend are:

Embrace of the Serpent
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4285496/?ref_=nv_sr_2
and
Dead Lands
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3399916/

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Apocalypto is awesome. Historical accuracy has never been Mel Gibson’s forte, but he knows how to make entertaining movies.

I could be wrong here, but I’m pretty sure the Mayans as an ethnicity still existed in the 16th century, even though their civilization’s zenith was long in the past. In fact, Apocalypto seems to depict just that: the weak Mayans being dominated and enslaved by another tribe.
 
Phr3121 said:
Why would Cortés sent Pedro de Alvarado to conquer the Maya in Guatemala in 1523 if they were all gone?
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Most of the great stone cities of the Maya were abandoned by A.D. 900, however, and since the 19th century scholars have debated what might have caused this dramatic decline. The movie clearly depicted these cities as active.
 
Dr Stoppage said:
Apocalypto is awesome. Historical accuracy has never been Mel Gibson’s forte, but he knows how to make entertaining movies.

I could be wrong here, but I’m pretty sure the Mayans as an ethnicity still existed in the 16th century, even though their civilization’s zenith was long in the past. In fact, Apocalypto seems to depict just that: the weak Mayans being dominated and enslaved by another tribe.
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You are absolutely right. It's just the big cities they had were long abandoned before the Spanish ever came.
 
That was a surprisingly entertaining movie.
 
Mel Gibsons mere presence on the set of a film ensures its quality.

Mel Bless you all.
 
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