Anybody have a career based in the sciences?

[therealdope]

Fuck you. Are you trying to tell me that my political science degree isn't a real science degree?

 

[ucunc156]

Fuck you. Are you trying to tell me that my political science degree isn't a real science degree?

lol at first i thought you were being serious and was about to blast you... then i read for context. LULZ

 

[akimbo187]

When I was in grad school i took an ugrad physical chemistry course from the chem dept. half way through the semester a guy comes in trying to recruit people into the environmental science program. He described the program and it sounded like bullshit.

As someone very wise told me, "any discipline with the word 'science' in it probably isn't one".

I don't know man. You should take geophysical fluid dynamics and then maybe you will change your mind. But anyways TS, people in here are talking like environmental science is a general degree. Specialize in geophysics, or hydrology, and you are guaranteed a good career. Just don't go for stuff like environmental protection, or geochemistry. I took civil engineering and mechanical engineering courses in my program, and one of the hardest courses was applied geophysics in the earth sciences department. Man there are a lot of pretentious people on this site.

 

[ucunc156]

I don't know man. You should take geophysical fluid dynamics and then maybe you will change your mind. But anyways TS, people in here are talking like environmental science is a general degree. Specialize in geophysics, or hydrology, and you are guaranteed a good career. Just don't go for stuff like environmental protection, or geochemistry. I took civil engineering and mechanical engineering courses in my program, and one of the hardest courses was applied geophysics in the earth sciences department. Man there are a lot of pretentious people on this site.

thats pretty much exactly what those "pretentious people" are saying though. environmental science seems like a general degree. specializing in geophysics, or hydrology does not. to be fair, the common man equates environmental science with environmental protection, which you yourself disparage.

 

[therealdope]

I don't know man. You should take geophysical fluid dynamics and then maybe you will change your mind.

Change my mind about what?

Specialize in geophysics, or hydrology, and you are guaranteed a good career.

My wife would strongly disagree with that, she has a geophysics degree. Graduate work was mandatory to get a job in the field. She basically said 'fuck it' and did an EE degree, rather than grad work in geophysics.

 

[ocean size]

I don't know man. You should take geophysical fluid dynamics and then maybe you will change your mind. But anyways TS, people in here are talking like environmental science is a general degree. Specialize in geophysics, or hydrology, and you are guaranteed a good career. Just don't go for stuff like environmental protection, or geochemistry. I took civil engineering and mechanical engineering courses in my program, and one of the hardest courses was applied geophysics in the earth sciences department. Man there are a lot of pretentious people on this site.

What was your actual undergrad degree? Like what is on your diploma

 

[akimbo187]

Change my mind about what?




My wife would strongly disagree with that, she has a geophysics degree. Graduate work was mandatory to get a job in the field. She basically said 'fuck it' and did an EE degree, rather than grad work in geophysics.

change your mind about this: "any discipline with the word 'science' in it probably isn't one". I guess my situation was different, as I did mining engineering, and made a killing in Alberta. I always thought that geophysics majors would be doing real good working in natural resources though. Wow, so did she start all over from scratch for her EE?

 

[akimbo187]

What was your actual undergrad degree? Like what is on your diploma

BASc Mining engineering with minor in Information Technology (Bunch of second/third year EE courses).

 

[therealdope]

change your mind about this: "any discipline with the word 'science' in it probably isn't one".

where exactly do you see the word "science" in "geophysics".

environmental science
social science
political science

I guess my situation was different, as I did mining engineering, and made a killing in Alberta. I always thought that geophysics majors would be doing real good working in natural resources though. Wow, so did she start all over from scratch for her EE?

She was planning to go to Saudi Arabia to work but then realized that there are more jobs for EEs. She did not have to do all of first year, but ya, it took her an extra 3 yrs to get the EE degree. Not a lot of cross-over courses I guess.

 

[therealdope]

BASc Mining engineering with minor in Information Technology (Bunch of second/third year EE courses).

Did you go to the UofA?

 

[ocean size]

BASc Mining engineering with minor in Information Technology (Bunch of second/third year EE courses).

Sounds like a solid degree.

What TS is talking about is actually majoring in "Environmental Science". Usually the program includes a good bit of policy, some economics, and tiny bit of entry level sciences. It is generally considered to be a lightweight degree, and not one that will get you a job in a field that is math, physics, or engineering heavy.

 

[akimbo187]

Did you go to the UofA?

Although I was considering petroleum engineering at UofA, I stuck with UBC, as it was closer to home.

 

[therealdope]

Although I was considering petroleum engineering at UofA, I stuck with UBC, as it was closer to home.

I remember the people in mining engineering I went to school with were always going somewhere out 'in the bush", which does make a lot of sense.

 

[akimbo187]

I remember the people in mining engineering I went to school with were always going somewhere out 'in the bush", which does make a lot of sense.

LOL, yep, definitely a program if you like the outdoors and heavy machinery.

 

[Gaylords Force]

I'll just leave this here

 

[therealdope]

I'll just leave this here

Completely agree except that theoretical physics is much closer to math than that graphic shows.

 

[Doughbelly]

I don't know man. You should take geophysical fluid dynamics and then maybe you will change your mind. But anyways TS, people in here are talking like environmental science is a general degree. Specialize in geophysics, or hydrology, and you are guaranteed a good career. Just don't go for stuff like environmental protection, or geochemistry. I took civil engineering and mechanical engineering courses in my program, and one of the hardest courses was applied geophysics in the earth sciences department. Man there are a lot of pretentious people on this site.

Depends entirely on the school, but if you're coming from a respectable school that has both an environmental engineering and an environmental science degree and you're the one without the engineering degree, you are starting with a handicap.

If you're from school that I've never heard of and you've got an environmental sciences degree, I start with the assumption that it's a fluff degree. The reason I bolded hydrology was because I've had conversations with environmental science majors who told me their hydrology class was fun and not so hard, then later I find out they don't or barely know calculus. Turns out calc wasn't a prereq. Then what the fuck were they learning in their hydrology course/courses? In my mind, calc -> differential equations -> fluid mechanics -(then and only then)-> hydrology.

environmental science
social science
political science

For the record, I actually do have a poli sci degree. :redface:

Sounds like a solid degree.

What TS is talking about is actually majoring in "Environmental Science". Usually the program includes a good bit of policy, some economics, and tiny bit of entry level sciences. It is generally considered to be a lightweight degree, and not one that will get you a job in a field that is math, physics, or engineering heavy.

When I see the transcripts and CVs of most people with environmental science degrees, most of the "science" courses are filled out with fluff that never required much math or physics in the first place.

Not saying that strong environmental science programs don't exist, just that at most schools, it's got the fluffiest reqs.

 

[akimbo187]

Depends entirely on the school, but if you're coming from a respectable school that has both an environmental engineering and an environmental science degree and you're the one without the engineering degree, you are starting with a handicap.

If you're from school that I've never heard of and you've got an environmental sciences degree, I start with the assumption that it's a fluff degree. The reason I bolded hydrology was because I've had conversations with environmental science majors who told me their hydrology class was fun and not so hard, then later I find out they don't or barely know calculus. Turns out calc wasn't a prereq. Then what the fuck were they learning in their hydrology course/courses? In my mind, calc -> differential equations -> fluid mechanics -(then and only then)-> hydrology.




For the record, I actually do have a poli sci degree. :redface:



When I see the transcripts and CVs of most people with environmental science degrees, most of the "science" courses are filled out with fluff that never required much math or physics in the first place.

Not saying that strong environmental science programs don't exist, just that at most schools, it's got the fluffiest reqs.

Oh ya, I definitely agree with you on that part. I took open channel hydraulics and hyrology in the civil department, and the prereqs were fluid mechanics, and differential equations. That class was also a biatch. I never took hydrology in environmental science, so I just assumed that they at least required differential equations or some decent math course.

 

[llperez22]

yes, water science although the majority of my work involves wrench turning and blue collar stuff as im a maintenance worker. However, startgin this friday, im spending 5 weeks doing nothing but lab testing and computer monitor work using my water science education to its fullest.

 

[Edgar Allan Hoe]

I originally studied Nursing and I seriously got into Microbiology. I read my textbook front to back twice and gave a 30 min speech on the general and adaptive immune system. I say speech because I didn't even use any slides. I can still 7 years later go on in detail about it all, I just can't spell any of the terms. lol

After I gave up on Nursing I switched to Computer Science but I honestly wish Microbiology paid as much. If it did I might have actually became a real scientist rather than a software developer.