Crime Antifa Megathread

[*Z*]

Why do the tough guy conservatives keep getting beat up by purple haired SJW's?

 

[Blood and Thunder]

Why do the tough guy conservatives keep getting beat up by purple haired SJW's?

 

[Gregolian]

Why do the tough guy conservatives keep getting beat up by purple haired SJW's?

To be fair I don't think the guy that was the target is your traditional "tough guy conservative" like a Tim Kennedy type.

Just some pasty not fat but not athletic Asian dude with some cameras and a Twitter account.

 

[Happy Man]

Why do the tough guy conservatives keep getting beat up by purple haired SJW's?

Ugh, they’ve only been successful when they have a large crowd of antifa beating on single people.

Every time an opposing group tangled with them, antifa get slept on the concrete and cede ground.

 

[Omni1]

The most serious attacks being carried out by the meth head antifa are acid attacks & attacks with metal clubs. They are going to do some hard time behind bars. Hopefully the Mayor of Portland will also do some serious prison time for aiding & abetting. Really hope that none of the victims don't lose their eye sight. These antifa scum need to get jobs & maybe then they will get some self esteem. Then for their parents sake they can finally move out of the basement & get a life.

 

[Fawlty]

Nah.

Andy didn't just walk among the protestors. Andy used to write articles about leftist activity on college campuses. He then started to take video of these things from a safe distance and got a decent amount of publicity.

Then Andy created a Patreon and started getting up close to these events--the most explosive form of these events, not on colleges but in the community and involving known violent groups--for, as far as anyone can tell, no reason. The police always establish safety lines for these things that people are not supposed to cross because violence breaks out. Andy regularly crosses these lines. At first, Antifa would just shout at him. Then, as he became more familiar to them, they began to bully him, pushing him, spraying him with silly string, pepper spraying him, etc. As these events escalated, Andy continued to promote his Patreon.

He also started branching away from leftist politics in his region and began writing all kinds of articles that echoed right wing talking points, attacking Islam, covering illegal immigration, all the hot button issues, but no longer with the observe and report role he normally had. Instead, he was editorializing, all the while promoting his Patreon. It was at this point that he was no longer a journalist to me. He had stopped reporting the news and was now trying to create the news. His followers waited to see what violent thing Antifa would do to him next or what provocative take he would put out to inflame social media. All the while, he insisted he was a journalist, which granted him access to events and earned him leniency--he wasn't explicitly against Antifa like the Proud Boys or other groups, he was a "journalist" who just happened to be very inconvenient for their side, but he should be left alone. If you watch the video, some Antifa members actually try to escort him to safety while he is under attack. Many don't participate in the attack.

This doesn't absolve Antifa; they're scum. But there's a reason he doesn't get mobbed by everyone. Andy has been deliberate about finding and provoking Antifa's most violent members. He is not the only journalist covering these thigs, he's just the only one who inserts himself into the conflict. Antifa has threatened him over and over and he has only moved more and more into their midst during these events and increased his inflammatory editorials and increased the promotion of his Patreon. Dude is a classic victimhood hustler and has used the shroud of journalism to protect him. The Proud Boys go in and throw down. If they get hit, they deal with the consequences. Andy says "don't hurt me" while standing inches from someone who has been telling him for months to fuck off.

I wish his brain wasn't bleeding (though I haven't seen any official sources say that, I'll take internet rumor's word for it), but I do think he deserved what he got.

If you've seen the video of what Antifa did to those two old men, I think you'll see that Andy was treated with restraint (as crazy as that sounds) despite his provocation. For the record, the two old men who had their heads split open said that they weren't afraid. Neither of them turned to Twitter and cried because neither of them are provocateurs--they're two genuinely innocent dudes who got mobbed by thugs.

So, no, I don't think his brain should bleed for walking among protestors. I think he should get slapped for being a coward and a fake journalist and deliberately trying to get himself beat up for over a year.

Let's say this is totally accurate, and I have no reason to disbelieve it, as this is exactly what I'd expect after familiarizing myself with his "work."

This is still overstating the provocation and understating the unreasonableness of the violent response, as literally all they have to do is ignore the guy.

 

[Gregolian]

Let's say this is totally accurate, and I have no reason to disbelieve it, as this is exactly what I'd expect after familiarizing myself with his "work."

This is still overstating the provocation and understating the reasonableness of the violent response, as literally all they have to do is ignore the guy.

Like, I can't claim self defense if I shot and kill the guy that knocked on my door asking for a cup of sugar even if I didn't like him.

The response is completely blown out compared to the supposed pressing/provocation.

 

[*Z*]

I do enjoy that video. My comment was just a shit troll job, I can't stand antifa.

 

[abacadus]

Lol, dude was taken to the hospital and allegedly had a brain bleed - so much for silly string.

And that "conservative" side of you should appreciate the personal responsibility asspect of the fact that I'm going to shoot someone before I let a dozen people jump me.

Btw, its called self defense not killing. But if he dies he dies at that point.

Conservative in the christian sense. Not a pseudo conservative degenerate.

 

[Leagon]

Let's say this is totally accurate, and I have no reason to disbelieve it, as this is exactly what I'd expect after familiarizing myself with his "work."

This is still overstating the provocation and understating the unreasonableness of the violent response, as literally all they have to do is ignore the guy.

If what I'm saying is accurate, then Andy is basically the drunk guy at the bar saying, "Fucking hit me, bro! Hit me! Doo it!" He deliberately picked a violent group, sought out its most violent members, spent a year provoking them despite escalating violence, upped his rhetoric against the group and their beliefs, then gave surprised pikachu face when he got his dome rattled.

When that couple went biking in Tajikistan and got killed by terrorists, all the Sherdog right wing fools came out and said the couple were idiots for going into an obvious terror spot for vacation and that they brought their deaths on themselves, even though Tajikistan has less terror activity than the US.

But when a random Internet provocateur spends a year poking the hive of what is basically a domestic terror organization, we're supposed to feel sorry for him?

I've already said the those responsible are pieces of shit and should be arrested. I'm adding that Andy is an idiot. The response was that one or two dudes hit him with weak one-twos, then a bunch of losers threw milk and silly string on him. Why are we acting like he got piledrived off the top rope? This is an MMA forum. We literally have a subforum devoted to street fights. If Andy's beatdown was posted there, it would be the most tame attack posted since that subforum was created.

 

[hillelslovak87]

Ugh, they’ve only been successful when they have a large crowd of antifa beating on single people.

Every time an opposing group tangled with them, antifa get slept on the concrete and cede ground.

So, Antifa is a terrorist group that seriously threatens America, but any decent sized group can beat the shit out of them with ease.

Cool.

 

[Leagon]

I have no idea, honestly.

Lolwut?

Leagon: They didn't beat up Andy for his political opinions, they beat him up because he's a provocateur who has been consciously courting violent confrontation for over a year. That's why people are more okay with the attack on Andy but no one is justifying the attack on these other dudes.

Sangre: Okay, yeah, but no one is justifying this like they are the Andy attack. I wonder why.

Leagon: I just told you why.

Sangre: Hmm...what could it be?

Leagon:

Sangre: If only there were some explanation. Curses! It appears this will forever confound me.

 

[Fawlty]

If what I'm saying is accurate, then Andy is basically the drunk guy at the bar saying, "Fucking hit me, bro! Hit me! Doo it!" He deliberately picked a violent group, sought out its most violent members, spent a year provoking them despite escalating violence, upped his rhetoric against the group and their beliefs, then gave surprised pikachu face when he got his dome rattled.

When that couple went biking in Tajikistan and got killed by terrorists, all the Sherdog right wing fools came out and said the couple were idiots for going into an obvious terror spot for vacation and that they brought their deaths on themselves, even though Tajikistan has less terror activity than the US.

But when a random Internet provocateur spends a year poking the hive of what is basically a domestic terror organization, we're supposed to feel sorry for him?

I've already said the those responsible are pieces of shit and should be arrested. I'm adding that Andy is an idiot. The response was that one or two dudes hit him with weak one-twos, then a bunch of losers threw milk and silly string on him. Why are we acting like he got piledrived off the top rope? This is an MMA forum. We literally have a subforum devoted to street fights. If Andy's beatdown was posted there, it would be the most tame attack posted since that subforum was created.

I appreciate the effort you've put into these posts and all I can say is that I think it's just a bit out of tune. But thanks, good stuff.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

He didn't get assaulted just for writing the articles, he's deliberately putting himself in a situation that increases his likelihood of getting assaulted by Antifa to get views and Patreon bucks. Its like when Coyote Peterson subjects himself to the most painful insect stings and bites for views.

Imagine if Carlos Maza, the gay Hispanic Vox journalist who tattled on Crowder, made video after video criticizing The Proud Boys. Then he went to a Proud Boy rally not merely to cover the event but to ask loaded questions of the Proud Boys, knowing full well they know who he is and how he covers them. If he got assaulted the Proud Boys would still be wrong just as Antifa is in the wrong here and needs to be harshly dealt with. But at the same time there's an element of him asking for it.

I haven't seen him ssking any questions

 

[Leagon]

Me, reflecting on this whole thread, but replace "woman" with "Andy Ngo".

 

[3825 968]

This will not calm the divide.

 

[Bamboozled]

Lol this is pathetic, gets hit with facts and data and just resorts to ad hominem instead of addressing the point. So the fbi and the department of justice are leftist, also everything in that list is bullshit, gotcha kiddo.

Dude, I already discredited your source, so you literally posted a different outlet using the same source. Are you this fucking dumb? I'm not even denying right wing extremists or terrorists don't exist. But the blatant misuse of the term terrorist is not genuine nor productive to the actual discussion. It's why I already used broad strokes to paint a picture with the guy who shot up the conservative baseball game. Dude by the lefts definition is a terrorist. But guess what it isn't considered? An act of terrorism. Try using logic.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

Conservative in the christian sense. Not a pseudo conservative degenerate.

So you're a black mationalist Christian that doesn't live in the US? I feel like I should be calling Ripley's.

I'm a conservative Christian myself and take no pleasure in the thought of possibly having to shoot someone, but make no mistake at the end of the day I'll be with my family at home 1 way or another.

 

[Gluteus Swag]

So, Antifa is a terrorist group that seriously threatens America, but any decent sized group can beat the shit out of them with ease.

Cool.

What threatens America is mainstream media supporting, promoting, and running cover for domestic terrorist organizations that cause violence and property damage wherever they go; left-wing politicians who use their political power to prevent the police from protecting innocent people from being brutalized in public; and social media platforms who allow violent groups to recruit and organize on their platform because their political views align with their own.

If not for the above Antifa would be a joke.

 

[DadbodDan]

Anti-fa are globalist shills?

Well duh

Globalism, internationalism.. international Jewry.. hello


Anti-fa are communists, it's origins are Jewish go read the Jewish Forward and they proudly boast it.

Fascism was a reaction to communism, they started it all.. this is what the history books are not telling you.

I mean think back to the failed revolution in Germany and look at the names of the leaders of that failed revolution.

The biggest Holocasut was not by fascists, it was always by the anti-fascists.

They were the victors. They then left Russia, and spread all over the West spreading their ideology.


Hmm look at Israel's leaders you may notice that most were either born in Russia, or had parents from Russia.


Guess the truth is hate speech.. LOL