- Dec 16, 2001
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Originally posted by animal mother
it isn't one question, J. there are simply some points of meat's that i asked for clarification on in the "so sexy beast..." thread that have yet to be addressed. i will ttt it when i see meat cruising around.
I'll respond to this latest barrage of questions but I've got better things to do than infinitely debate shit, after this I'm moving on.
Your questions on the other thread were roughly as follows, though I'm paraphrasing to keep it short:
Q: So you're lumping blue in with RTR, kage, Coleman, etc?
A: Yes, that's exactly what I'm doing. All of them have gotten banned and returned in an antagonistic manner, have shown no remorse and have a pattern of blatantly and vocally not giving a shit about the rules, all have been enough of a pain in the ass from a moderating standpoint that ALL the adminstrators (and a significant number of moderators) have determined that they're permanently banned. Any of them who want their fix could come back with a new IP, never reference their old account and no one would be the wiser. But we all know that's not how it works. They come back for the notoriety. Yes, I'm lumping him in with them.
Q: Regarding your comment "My perspective on the Blue/Sexy Beast situation is cut and dry and a dead horse", that's a tremendous attitude considering the state of the mma forums and the number of people who have expressed their desire to see blue let back in. Maybe the quality of the site should take precedence over the administration deciding to have it out for one member.
A: I don't know if I'd go so far as to call it "tremendous" but thank you. The "state" of the mma forum? I think it will somehow survive. As far as a number of people wanting blue back in. How many of that number had to deal with him from a moderating standpoint? I'm sure a number of people would like porn as well but it's a private forum not a democratic forum and it's governed by private dictates. All the administrators agreed upon it.
Q: Were any of Blue's accounts double yellowed upon his returns or was he just immediately banned?
A: Mr. Blue intentionally and knowingly set out to get banned. He knew it was coming and stated he didn't give a shit, which doesn't doesn't lend itself to the minor screwup category or warranting a second chance. He returned immediately as Mr. White on the "Blue is Banned!" thread. His first post was "I'm back" followed by comments that the banning did nothing except wipe out his postcount, it was worth it, he'd do it again and that that IP bannings meant jackshit, he could get around them all he wanted and there was nothing that could be done about it. He was spotted and rebanned after six or seven posts. Double yellows seemed a tad pointless.
Q: Blue has a massive ego and was still heated from what he felt was an unfair situation don't you think it's ridiculous to hold that against him?
A: Massive ego or being "heated" doesn't mean anything. Unfair situation? He stated himself he knew he was going to get banned for it, and then he went through with it. I don't think it's ridiculous.
Q: Guys like RTR and kage got alot of chances and they brought zilch to the site, unlike blue.
A: RTR and kage had alot of chances with Hojak, I allowed them a shot of my own, they both blew it and they're both gone.
Q: It must be personal, if not with you with one of the other admins.
A: Personal conflict didn't force him to get banned and return in the manner he did. All the administrators were in immediate agreement, as well as the senior mods who'd spent time banning his accounts. Icemanfan got exactly the same treatment at the same time.
As far as this whole "what's the policy for banned guys getting back in after they're banned" shit, the whole notion is pretty fucking ridiculous to me and I'm not drafting a fifty page "this is what happens to banned guys" statement to cover every possible nuance and angle. The "Official Sherdog Policy" is this. If you want to stay here, DON'T GET BANNED! IF THE ADMINISTRATORS OF THE PRIVATE SITE WANT TO ALLOW YOU TO COME BACK THEY'LL ALLOW YOU TO COME BACK WITH WHATEVER STIPULATIONS THEY THINK ARE APPROPRIATE. IF THEY DON'T WANT YOU BACK YOU WON'T BE COMING BACK.
If you think the administration is shit have Jeff and Garrett get new administrators, it wouldn't be unprecedented.
That's really all I have to say on the matter and I'm done with it.
Have a good one.