Rewatch An older fight more people should watch - Chuck Liddell vs Guy Mezger at Pride 14

[2004 account]

Did he have heart problems? I thought he retired because of a stroke.

Yes my bad, it was a stroke to the brain

 

[linvillegorge]

I just like where after dropping Chuck with a overhand right bomb and then catching him with a head kick and failing to hurt him with a flurry, Mezger catches his breath and nods knowingly and offers a touch of the gloves. Like, alright man. You just took the best shit I can throw with seemingly no effect. Let me give you your props and acknowledge that I'm properly fucked now.

 

[PhilMcCavity]

The fights chuck won were a sign that he wasn't going to win the tournament. He didn't look like an unstoppable force against Mezger or Mini Reem. And then Page beat the shit outta him.

He was like 37 by then give the chuckster a break

 

[PhilMcCavity]

Guy Mezger...

Now there's a name I haven't heard in a while. One of the unsung heroes of the dark ages.

Had an Elvis haircut on him too

 

[560ti]

Yes my bad, it was a stroke to the brain

It was a prescription NSAID called Vioxx that he was taking. It caused 2 strokes on the same night and that forced him into retirement

People talk about Mezger being unlucky but how about this for unlucky, Vioxx was pulled from the market 2 months before Mezger had his stroke because it was flagged for causing possible heart issues

 

[560ti]

Mezger was so underrated…

He gave Liddell, Arona, Wanderlei Silva, and Sakuraba all they could handle…

It’s a shame his career was cut short.

He was well rounded in an era of non well rounded fighters.

Professional kickboxing, brown belt in BJJ, highschool wrestling state champ.

His lack of size didn't help, he would of been a middleweight in todays landscape. I remember him telling me that he had bulked up 15lbs when he was preparing for the 3rd Tito fight (which didn't happen due to a stroke).

 

[2004 account]

It was a prescription NSAID called Vioxx that he was taking. It caused 2 strokes on the same night and that forced him into retirement

People talk about Mezger being unlucky but how about this for unlucky, Vioxx was pulled from the market 2 months before Mezger had his stroke because it was flagged for causing possible heart issues

Perhaps that's why I was under the impression it effected the heart. Remember reading something about vioxx I think.



Or perhaps I'm getting it mixed up with another lions den fighter Ken Shamrock who couldn't continue against Fujita due to a heart scare or something

 

[Cantorious]

Remember Wand took hits from Hunt and somehow survived. On 4 days notice. That shit is crazy. What a wild man. One of my favorite Wand moments... was when he was hurt and they repositioned them to the middle of the ring,and Wanderlei looked at the ref and nodded he was OK as he scooted to the middle,but you know that he wasnt.

I trained at Wands gym about a decade ago when it first opened in vegas. He told us that during that fight when Hunt initially landed that big right hand that dropped him he blacked out and was basically KO'd and that when Mark Hunt hit him while he was on his back that it woke him up all he remembers from that is when Mark was on top of him raining bombs. Considering how Hunt would flatline heavyweights with one shot and walk away it's amazing Wand was able to continue after that

 

[Ace70 V2]

He was like 37 by then give the chuckster a break

He was 37 when he fought in pride?

 

[Doctor Grudge]

This is totally wrong.

He was not small at all. Those shots would have stopped other people. Chuck could simply take them anyway and thats all there is to it.

Guy Metzger is smaller than Chuck Liddell and would have been a 185 pounder.

 

[Elvis.]

I remember enjoying this card at the time , I had a copy on vhs , thats what we had before dvd’s , Vitor Vs Herring was really interesting and Matsui’s upset of Pele was the moment of his career , before the fight people thought he was going to get killed

 

[PhilMcCavity]

He was 37 when he fought in pride?

34-35 my bad

 

[Richard Fannin]

I wish more people knew about Jose "Pele" Landi Jones :

I wish that some day, Pelé's Muay Thai fights against Anderson Silva would see the light of day...

We know those fights have taken place, both Pele & Anderson have talked about them (Pele won the first fight via stoppage, and won the second fight via a controversial decision)
Many Brazilian fighters/coaches have confirmed that those bouts took place, some of the Chute Boxe guys have talked about those match-ups too and how the second fight was more of a draw than a loss for AS

But sadly, I have a feeling that if it could have been uploaded on youtube or whatever, it would have happened by now

 

[Royce Greasy]

Yeah, haven't watched this in decades. But that's the one fight that makes me disagree with all the "chuck had an iron chin" fans.
Dude's comparing him to Henderson, even Hunt and Nelson... C'mon.

Well when you think about it really most people would have been finished by those combinations, it wasn't like it was a single shot it was a follow up assault and Liddell took it all so I'd say for a time he had a very hard head but eventually that cracked and he was getting KO'd a lot.

 

[Royce Greasy]

Mezger was so underrated…

He gave Liddell, Arona, Wanderlei Silva, and Sakuraba all they could handle…

It’s a shame his career was cut short.

I thought he won the fight against Sakuraba.

 

[Royce Greasy]

You think Guy was better than Bohlander.

 

[TrueBias]

Never found out, but when they wore the wrestling shoes, were they prevented from doing certain things?

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Never found out, but when they wore the wrestling shoes, were they prevented from doing certain things?

I don't think you could kick/stomp with them.

 

[Royce Greasy]

I was rooting hard for mezger when this fight happened. His career could've gone a different direction if he wasn't on the losing end of questionable decisions and if he never had heart problems.



was a fan of him since his kickboxing days with the long pony tail. Similar thing with rockhold.

This was one of the very first fights I'd ever seen and I was rooting for the Canadian Jason Fairn and was surprised that Mezger won so decisively after being dropped with a punch.

 

[Royce Greasy]

Although Frank Shamrock was the most successful I always thought Guy was the most talented fighter out of the Lion's Den. I thought that he would beat Shamrock in a fight.

Not sure about that Frank was insanely good but to beat Tito at the time but having said that Guy did also beat Tito so its hard to say if I were to bet I'd go with Frank over Guy.