International American moves to Europe. Does not want to move back to the US

[Aurelian]

 

[shinkyoku]

This popular American Youtuber moved to Europe and he explains why he doesn't want to move back

His arguments are very convincing. He explains what makes Europe so much better than America.

found this

almost like he read this forum

 

[SurferH2O]

The guy is a pussy... this is what is becoming of the UK.

 

[USA!USA!]

I’m jealous of the dude. It’s not the right time for me to pursue a move like that, but I hope that in a few years I can make a move out of the US too.

I hope that the US can fundamentally change some things to make it much better for their citizens. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if that is in the cards.. corporate greed and politicians will prevent anything meaningful from happening.

If only people stopped fighting each other based on party lines and actually blamed the parties and politicians themselves for the issues we all face.. we would live in a much, much better place.

 

[BFoe]

I hope that the US can fundamentally change some things to make it much better for their citizens. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if that is in the cards.. corporate greed and politicians will prevent anything meaningful from happening.

If only people stopped fighting each other based on party lines and actually blamed the parties and politicians themselves for the issues we all face.. we would live in a much, much better place.

Very true. I have a lot of conflicting feelings about the US currently. It’s my country, and I obviously care a lot for it to be as interested and involved in politics as I am. I really don’t want to see it turn into what it seems to be turning into.

But I’m really tired of the fight, if that makes sense. There are places with better economic systems, better education, better healthcare systems, far less gun violence, that treat their middle class and poor better than we treat ours, that treat their minorities better than we treat ours… YOLO, as they say, and I’d kind of like to live my one life in a place like that rather than constantly fighting to try and get those things here.

Maybe in the years post-Trump there will be some progress again, I don’t know. One thing that the Right says about me that is actually true is when they say “you’re out of touch!”—Clearly I am, because I don’t understand what the actual fuck people in this country are thinking. And I’m coming around to the view that instead of spending so much time trying to persuade people otherwise, I’d rather just go somewhere where people don’t think that way.

 

[deise69]

The guy is a pussy... this is what is becoming of the UK.

And you're an amadán, who can't tell the difference between the UK and Ireland.
Also fuck Unoch and the rest of his grifter family, send the prick back to jail again.

 

[Stoic1]

Having visited Europe 3x and living in Germany for 3 years I have my opinion. But if you want to see REAL fascism you needed to be in Germany during COVID. Holy fuck - police were not joking.

But no fucking way could I pay 50% of my pay to taxes. No thanks.

 

[USA!USA!]

Very true. I have a lot of conflicting feelings about the US currently. It’s my country, and I obviously care a lot for it to be as interested and involved in politics as I am. I really don’t want to see it turn into what it seems to be turning into.

But I’m really tired of the fight, if that makes sense. There are places with better economic systems, better education, better healthcare systems, far less gun violence, that treat their middle class and poor better than we treat ours, that treat their minorities better than we treat ours… YOLO, as they say, and I’d kind of like to live my one life in a place like that rather than constantly fighting to try and get those things here.

Maybe in the years post-Trump there will be some progress again, I don’t know. One thing that the Right says about me that is actually true is when they say “you’re out of touch!”—Clearly I am, because I don’t understand what the actual fuck people in this country are thinking. And I’m coming around to the view that instead of spending so much time trying to persuade people otherwise, I’d rather just go somewhere where people don’t think that way.

Yeah I will say that one very positive thing is that we have elections every 4 years (for now).. we always have an opportunity to change course and make improvements.. albeit minimally while our system is still dictated by those at the top..

I fear the direction we are headed too - the politicians and those in power have control of media and discourse, and continue to push people against one another.. it will definitely be a fight and will be hard to get back control, and I understand if people are not up for it if they have other options.

Its not going to be easy if it ever does happen. These people at the top of the pyramid don't want to come down - they don't want ANYTHING to change. They just want more money and power, and more disdain amongst the peasants. If they are mad at each other, they can't be mad at the people who actually deserve it. It's genius.

People need to realize that they don't need to agree with each other on every little small thing - what they need to do is come together on certain causes before throwing their neighbors under the bus for the oligarchs.

Who gives a f*** what party your neighbor is - do you want free healthcare or do you want the richest country in human history to let you choose between death and perpetual debt? Seems like a pretty f****** easy answer.

 

[Khaosan]

Respect to anyone who can escape Trump's third world authoritarian hellhole and get somewhere safer.

 

[Zazen]

UK wasn’t the best choice imo. They seem to be following the USA more than a lot of other European countries. I just hope the rest of the world learns what happens when you elect a right wing populist.

 

[Deorum]

Honestly nature is the best thing about usa imo, nothing in europe compares

Lack of wilderness is a thing here (except for russia with siberia)

It does with the Alps, or at least would if not for the 550 powerplants, 1,100 ski resorts, 8,000 lifts, and a permanent population of nearly 15 million people in the region. The continent is otherwise comparably flat and doesn't rise much above sea level. The magic and dramatic natural features happen at high elevations, man. It's one of the reasons the American West blows everything east of the 98th meridian in the country out of the water.





And then, on top of that, enormous swaths covering hundreds of millions of acres are not only federally protected but publicly owned and accessible to anybody, lol. Alaska is even more extreme. You'd almost think the United States was hostile to the idea of private property and commercial interests. We own all of this shit, not the billionaire class or multinational corporations.

 

[Ramon Antonio]

UK wasn’t the best choice imo. They seem to be following the USA more than a lot of other European countries. I just hope the rest of the world learns what happens when you elect a right wing populist.

Well at least he doesn’t have to learn a whole new language.

 

[Ramon Antonio]

US has terrible work-life balance compared to most of Europe. I’m about to take 6 weeks of paid leave soon and that’s on top of many weeks of leave I already took earlier in the year.

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

I can remember when working for a German firm there was a split opinion on what was a better place to live. Some Germans preferred Germany and Europe. And a number of them enjoyed being in America better.

I think that a vast majority of Germans look down on Murrka and/or would not want to live there.

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

It does with the Alps, or at least would if not for the 550 powerplants, 1,100 ski resorts, 8,000 lifts, and a permanent population of nearly 15 million people in the region. The continent is otherwise comparably flat and doesn't rise much above sea level. The magic and dramatic natural features happen at high elevations, man. It's one of the reasons the American West blows everything east of the 98th meridian in the country out of the water.





And then, on top of that, enormous swaths covering hundreds of millions of acres are not only federally protected but publicly owned and accessible to anybody, lol. Alaska is even more extreme. You'd almost think the United States was hostile to the idea of private property and commercial interests. We own all of this shit, not the billionaire class or multinational corporations.

You map comparison doesn t work. You are comparing apples with oranges

 

[curryjunkie]

The guy is a pussy... this is what is becoming of the UK.

he is irish you plank, and a well known religious nutter who gets memes made about him..

 

[lifelessheap]

found this

almost like he read this forum

That guy really thinks Americans having a half billion guns owned by citizens won't make a difference during an invasion? Japan was fucking spooked by hunting registrations of Americans. Lmao

 

[cincymma79]

Very true. I have a lot of conflicting feelings about the US currently. It’s my country, and I obviously care a lot for it to be as interested and involved in politics as I am. I really don’t want to see it turn into what it seems to be turning into.

But I’m really tired of the fight, if that makes sense. There are places with better economic systems, better education, better healthcare systems, far less gun violence, that treat their middle class and poor better than we treat ours, that treat their minorities better than we treat ours… YOLO, as they say, and I’d kind of like to live my one life in a place like that rather than constantly fighting to try and get those things here.

Maybe in the years post-Trump there will be some progress again, I don’t know. One thing that the Right says about me that is actually true is when they say “you’re out of touch!”—Clearly I am, because I don’t understand what the actual fuck people in this country are thinking. And I’m coming around to the view that instead of spending so much time trying to persuade people otherwise, I’d rather just go somewhere where people don’t think that way.

please leave

 

[helltoupee]

Yeah I will say that one very positive thing is that we have elections every 4 years (for now).. we always have an opportunity to change course and make improvements.. albeit minimally while our system is still dictated by those at the top..

I fear the direction we are headed too - the politicians and those in power have control of media and discourse, and continue to push people against one another.. it will definitely be a fight and will be hard to get back control, and I understand if people are not up for it if they have other options.

Its not going to be easy if it ever does happen. These people at the top of the pyramid don't want to come down - they don't want ANYTHING to change. They just want more money and power, and more disdain amongst the peasants. If they are mad at each other, they can't be mad at the people who actually deserve it. It's genius.

People need to realize that they don't need to agree with each other on every little small thing - what they need to do is come together on certain causes before throwing their neighbors under the bus for the oligarchs.

Who gives a f*** what party your neighbor is - do you want free healthcare or do you want the richest country in human history to let you choose between death and perpetual debt? Seems like a pretty f****** easy answer.

While I largely agree with what you wrote above, sadly, the status quo is never going to change.

The country was founded on the premise that tyranny of the majority is a bad thing. While we were all taught in school that this was some altruistic notion to protect the little guy, I would contend it's nothing of the sort. It was intended to protect an extreme minority (landed aristocrats), from revolution. This is why there was such great importance placed on property rights. The founding fathers were intimately concerned with the idea that a direct democracy could possibly create a scenario where their constituents vote to take away their assets. That was no bueno. Representatives and an electoral college provide the insurance that the status quo is never disrupted.

Certainly the founding fathers were smart enough to recognize that you could appease most of the population with an illusion of choice - or, that some things can be changed, bones can be thrown, but other things are absolutely off limits.

Project 2025 is absolutely taking advantage of these tools that were meant to preserve the status quo, imo. For their own purposes of course.

 

[Deorum]

The only two reasons why I'm not currently packing my bags are 1: I'm extremely stubborn, and I'm not one to run from a fight, no matter how hopeless it seems, and 2: the only European country that I have a relatively easy path to emmigrate to is Finland (I'm eligible for citizenship by descent there), and it's a bit cold for my liking.

3) Location? There aren't many places you could swap Northern AZ for and be trading up unless particularly fond of big city life or something. It's so drastically different from the popular image of the state as scorching desert full of cacti and tumbleweeds (Saguaros are actually pretty cool, though). It's more like the largest contiguous ponderosa pine forest in the world with a backdrop of 12,000 ft peaks and the most insane geology on the planet further up on the plateau.