All of a sudden 32 is old for Conor and Prime for Dustin

I think it boils down to heart (and cardio of course), i just don't think Conor has it nearly as much as Dustin. And with the older he gets (including time off, drinking, etc) it only shows itself more. Dustin fights regularly at the highest level. So many times he has fought through hell to get a win. The guy just never gives up which is a reflection of his true grit to dig deep.

I know a lot of people think Conors striking and left hand are what made him, I have always thought it was his mental warfare. If he doesn't get that advantage, he is in for a long night.
 
Na he wasn't as sharp as ever, he may have been in good physical shape but his timing has a bit off, he still won the round but missed a lot more shots than he normally would.
Conor strike stats:
Diaz 1
66 of 145 landed
45.52%

Diaz 2
164 of 286
57.3%

Eddie
40 of 93
43%

Khabib
96 of 128
75%

Dustin 2
29 of 66
43.9%


It's low, but not his lowest.
 
Here was part of Connor's problem which Poirier didn't have. Dustin didn't add any unnecessary pressure by saying he was going to finish Connor early in the fight...
 
Missed a lot more shots than he normally would...

He's fighting guys his size, reach isn't as big of a factor than it did at 145 against a Manlets & 5'7 Alvarez.

What about Nate, he was a lot more accurate against Nate, especially in the 2nd fight. Size isn't the reason, his timing was a bit off, not terrible but poor by his standards. It could be down to age or ring rust, next fight should tell us more.
 
Only people who're dishonest (mostly to themselves) say this.

Conor was as sharp and accurate as ever and his cardio was as one would expect it to be after adding a bit more muscle to his frame.

Dustin beat a pretty much in his prime Conor, simple as that.

I agree with everything you said there, but it's also a legitimate excuse (and excuse nonetheless but valid) that McGregor has only fought in the octagon twice since about fall 2018, prior to this fight.

He had a year layoff between the Cerrone fight and this fight. And 27 months since the Khabib fight (with one fight in between). Prior to that it was Nov. 2016 vs Alvarez and a boxing circus match in between. That's 3 fights in 4+ years basically.

I'm not sure if it makes a ton considering Khabib for example, was fighting infrequently and still winning. But it's definitely the only valid "Excuse" to use. In the cage, Dustin simply had a better gameplan, took him down and grappled with him, destroyed him with low/calf kicks, and had better cardio and volume.
 
Na he wasn't as sharp as ever, he may have been in good physical shape but his timing has a bit off, he still won the round but missed a lot more shots than he normally would.
I disagree completely about his timing/accuracy having been off.

Conor's striking accuracy in his last five fights, excluding the Cowboy fight in which he had 73%:

Against Poirier (southpaw): 43%
Against Khabib (orthodox): 62%
Against Nate 2nd time (southpaw): 57%
Against Nate 1st time (southpaw): 50%

Let's keep the following things in mind:

1)
Generally, a southpaw will do better against orthodox fighters on the feet, because southpaws are used to fight orthodox fighters, but not vice-versa.
Against other southpaws, both southpaw fighters fight a an opponent they're not as used to, stance-wise, putting them on an equal level, but still making it harder to land what they're usually used to.

2)
Conor understandably got more uncomfortable and less agile on the feet, once the leg kicks piled up - this is of course not due to Conor's timing itself being worse, but Conor being in a position where it's increasingly difficult to move and thus hit as freely and accurately as normally is the case

3)
Out of the fighters mentioned, Dustin has the best stand up, making it harder to land as easily on him as it was the case against Nate Diaz, who's notorious for eating a lot of punches, even without the leg kicks being involved.

Last but not least, Conor's average sign. strike accuracy was 49% before the fight and it was 43% as mentioned above against Dustin and all the things i've mentioned considered, there's not really anything which makes me think Conor wasn't as sharp in his striking.
There were times in the first round, before he already got his leg kicked to mush, where he landed some beautiful and super well-timed combos on Dustin which snapped Poirier's head back quite a bit.
 
I agree with everything you said there, but it's also a legitimate excuse (and excuse nonetheless but valid) that McGregor has only fought in the octagon twice since about fall 2018, prior to this fight.

He had a year layoff between the Cerrone fight and this fight. And 27 months since the Khabib fight (with one fight in between). Prior to that it was Nov. 2016 vs Alvarez and a boxing circus match in between. That's 3 fights in 4+ years basically.

I'm not sure if it makes a ton considering Khabib for example, was fighting infrequently and still winning. But it's definitely the only valid "Excuse" to use. In the cage, Dustin simply had a better gameplan, took him down and grappled with him, destroyed him with low/calf kicks, and had better cardio and volume.
Yeah, that's somewhat fair i think, though Conor did like mentioned not look even slightly washed or flat in the cage at all to me; his timing was superb, his power (to me) looked even better than ever and if only by a slight margin.

I do think that aside from not having checked or not having been able to check Dustin's leg kicks, Conor didn't do himself a favor with his added muscle mass; i'd go even as far as saying that this was a very dumb decision, considering that he never lacked power/the ability to finish people (plus since it came a lot due to his accuracy, he shouldn't have to fear to lose it when getting a bit smaller anyways) but always lacked cardio.

Besides training to check/avoid these kicks better, i'd have him lose a bit of muscle and hit the road way more often.
 
I havent liked the way that conor has fought since Diaz 2. Plodding, undiversified, much more willing to accept and exchange in pocket/clinch. with that said, he's definitely in his physical prime. His skill prime was Aldo IMO.
"Skill prime" against Aldo is really reaching when the fight only lasted 13 seconds via fluke punch. How can you judge that?
 
We've been down this road with the Fedor fanboys before. You know the playbook when you lose your fighter is washed up and if the fighter who beat them was the same age or older you just ignore that.
I agree 100%.
 
Conor just about broke Dustin's leg when he actually threw a leg kick. By that time it was too late.

Conor needs to use kicks. He needs to add them to maximize his distance management and establish range.

Conor needs Ido Portal back.
Needs more touch butt in the park?
 
Needs more touch butt in the park?
fedor lost to an older mw fighter . thats a fact
that small mw fighter has alot of milage too. whats ur excuses?
cant u just admit the other fighter was just better?
 
Conor is not physically past his prime but he is not the same man who beat Eddie. Can he suddenly be that guy? No, it doesn’t work that way.
 
Only people who're dishonest (mostly to themselves) say this.

Conor was as sharp and accurate as ever and his cardio was as one would expect it to be after adding a bit more muscle to his frame.

Dustin beat a pretty much in his prime Conor, simple as that.

If things go slightly different in the second round and Conor gets the finish, everyone would be saying how Conor 2.0 looked better than ever
 
It's not that simple. Dustin worked his ass off and fought a who's who of tough guys over the years. Conor jet setted around, broke a fan's phone, punched out an old man, had numerous other distractions and overall just didn't put in the work like Dustin. He also kind of missed the boat on everyone using calf kicks these days, due to inactivity and the sport passing his skill set by.
 
fedor lost to an older mw fighter . thats a fact
that small mw fighter has alot of milage too. whats ur excuses?
cant u just admit the other fighter was just better?
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"Skill prime" against Aldo is really reaching when the fight only lasted 13 seconds via fluke punch. How can you judge that?
Also Diaz 1. His skills were so sharp in both those. Yeah, sure it was short. He was fast as hell, light on his feet, mixed feints and kicks. He was in phenom form those two fights. Then Diaz ruined Conor by turning him into a scared-to-gas plodding boxer.
 
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