All day long, Conor?

[cshireman4]

Anyone else catch that "All day long" comment from Conor before the start of round 2? Was it the added muscle or was it that "predictable 1, 2 pull" tagging him over and over that changed things?

 

[BASSER911414]

What changed things was simply that Nate Diaz could take Conor's punches and Conor couldn't take his. Diaz is simply a better fight. As simple as that.

 

[Tyrannosaurus rex]

Anyone else catch that "All day long" comment before the start of round 2? Was it the added muscle or was it that "predictable 1, 2 pull" tagging him over and over that changed things?

I don't think he added a lot of weight really. Just didn't cut weight.

 

[bocajarro]

After watching this, I can't imagine how Conor would beat Nate, even at 155. Nate have cardio for days, an excellent chin and if the fight goes to the ground the fight is over.
Conor bit off more that he could chew this time. He better stays at 145 where nobody can take his power.

 

[MarloStanfield]

he went out there and put it all on the line, he wasnt scared and came up short
you live and learn

 

[King Joffery]

After watching this, I can't imagine how Conor would beat Nate, even at 155. Nate have cardio for days, an excellent chin and if the fight goes to the ground the fight is over.
Conor bit off more that he could chew this time. He better stays at 145 where nobody can take his power.

Why not, Conor easily won the 1st round, had his face busted up pretty good, he definitely has good a chance in a rematch at 55.

 

[bocajarro]

I think Nate can eat anything Conor throws at him, I don't see him getting gassed. On the other hand, I think Conor would have a big problem if he can't take Nate out of there early, and I think he can't.

 

[James L]

Why not, Conor easily won the 1st round, had his face busted up pretty good, he definitely has good a chance in a rematch at 55.

You're saying he could win by cut?

Conor looked good but overzealous in the first, and hunting the finish he couldn't find it. While Diaz bros are notorious for being ultra durable, Diaz isn't exactly the toughest WW....because he isn't a WW, and when he was he still wasn't.

RDA & Lawler murder-death-kill Conor 10/10 times and that isn't to take away from the UFC mofockin FW Champion. It's just because he's a fucking FW who has no grappling ability to overcome any sort of size disadvantage another fighter has. Hell, he's in trouble when he has 20+ lbs on the guy even.

 

[carrythezero]

Why not, Conor easily won the 1st round, had his face busted up pretty good, he definitely has good a chance in a rematch at 55.

Against a full camp Diaz? No chance. Dude came off the beach with no training camp or sparring and still beat his has. It would be worse at 155.

 

[King Joffery]

You're saying he could win by cut?

No I'm saying he could win by out striking him which he was initially. Doesn't matter how durable you are if you get busted up to the point where you can't see clearly from all the blood.

Diaz is clearly bigger tbf, he may not be a true WW but he is is big for LW, same as McGregor is big for FW, he is a full weight class above him, I think hubris got the better of McGregor by agreeing to 170, McGregor was likely still 168lbs on the night but I reckon Nate was more than what he weighed in at. I never really believed McGregor could beat Lawler tbh, would be bad for his health to even try and Nate may have done him a favour here by tossing that idea in the bin.

I do still think he has a chance against RDA, saying RDA beats him 10/10 is just daft, virtually no fighter ever has less than a 10% chance. RDA is the favourite but no more than a 2/1 favourite in my book.

 

[Balthasar]

Yeah, that was a bit lame. After one round already he was slowing down significantly, not exactly all day. He threw so much energy taxing strikes with relatively little effect, though. You'd think by that in the middle of the first round he'd adjust his gameplan, but he only did so after the first round or even later maybe. Already by the end of the first round he had to knock Diaz out before he was lost due to being out of gas.

 

[fightdonttweet]

Yeah, that was a bit lame. After one round already he was slowing down significantly, not exactly all day. He threw so much energy taxing strikes with relatively little effect, though. You'd think by that in the middle of the first round he'd adjust his gameplan, but he only did so after the first round or even later maybe. Already by the end of the first round he had to knock Diaz out before he was lost due to being out of gas.

He was trying to fulfill his prediction of a first round knockout.

 

[otro]

Conor is a 145er, it's clear now.... He'd lose again even worse to Nate at 155 (full camp Nate), and tbh he should be thankful to RDA for getting injuried because that fight would be a massacre.

 

[bladez]

Geeze..and he thought he cold beat RDA...fighting a Diaz 10 day training camp, RDA would have killed him!

 

[James L]

No I'm saying he could win by out striking him which he was initially. Doesn't matter how durable you are if you get busted up to the point where you can't see clearly from all the blood.

Diaz is clearly bigger tbf, he may not be a true WW but he is is big for LW, same as McGregor is big for FW, he is a full weight class above him, I think hubris got the better of McGregor by agreeing to 170, McGregor was likely still 168lbs on the night but I reckon Nate was more than what he weighed in at. I never really believed McGregor could beat Lawler tbh, would be bad for his health to even try and Nate may have done him a favour here by tossing that idea in the bin.

I do still think he has a chance against RDA, saying RDA beats him 10/10 is just daft, virtually no fighter ever has less than a 10% chance. RDA is the favourite but no more than a 2/1 favourite in my book.

No I'm saying he could win by out striking him which he was initially. Doesn't matter how durable you are if you get busted up to the point where you can't see clearly from all the blood.

Diaz is clearly bigger tbf, he may not be a true WW but he is is big for LW, same as McGregor is big for FW, he is a full weight class above him, I think hubris got the better of McGregor by agreeing to 170, McGregor was likely still 168lbs on the night but I reckon Nate was more than what he weighed in at. I never really believed McGregor could beat Lawler tbh, would be bad for his health to even try and Nate may have done him a favour here by tossing that idea in the bin.

I do still think he has a chance against RDA, saying RDA beats him 10/10 is just daft, virtually no fighter ever has less than a 10% chance. RDA is the favourite but no more than a 2/1 favourite in my book.

If you get outstriked to where you're so busted up you're essentially blind as you said than you are going to win by cut unless you have the luck similar to jab target practice opponents against GSP.

They both came off as small WWs meant for LW as far as MMA goes. I still think Mac has a body built for Boxing in that 145 - 150ish is too small for him obviously while 170 is WAY too fucking big for him even if he doesn't weigh in at 168 and weighs in at 171. He looked like he'd have a hard time up against the cage with anyone at WW and most likely the Elite at LW, on the ground forget about it for the moment if you can considering how quickly he gave up his back and tapped- at the moment seemingly, without any prior pause.

I think Mac needs ALOT of work with his grappling in the clinch and on the ground, he needs to have a GSP like mindset, not in the sense that he's content to ride to a decision but in the sense that he needs to make every area of the fight appealing to himself against as many opponents as he can and I guarantee you Grappling isn't his Plan B in just about any fight he is likely to sign for at this point.

iirc when it comes to what he needs to improve based on his fight with Diaz also needs to learn to keep the balls of his feet on the ground, and to realize his legs are longer and can be quicker than he thinks among other things...everytime he got hit (meaningfully at the least) it was due to either one or however many of the following reasons- his back foot was in the air, along with his head being way too close in the first place (especially with overextended lead foot w/out engaging to boot) for any period of time while striking &/or his lead foot was too close to his opponent without him striking which means he was in the danger zone at worst or just before or outside of mid range which are still Day 1 Ammy mistakes. While he wisely mixed up different high levels of speeds he sometimes retracted at a less than ideal speed too which also lessened the capacity of maximum power gain in his follow ups when he threw them. He didn't always follow through properly while throwing kicks either nor his vaunted left hand which was thrown with flared elbows at times.

While I admire (to an extent) your (overzealous) belief in your boy, it seems he may not completely be off a pedestal if you think anybody completely believing in (The Reigning, Defending, Undisputed LW Champion of The World,) Rafael Dos Anjos, against Conor is daft considering what a man some consider a gatekeeper in Nate Diaz did to him. RDA is a ferocious, unrelenting animal whom seems to not believe in letting your opponent "reset" nor get into their ideal pace.