"Aliens"......no, seriously aliens

[N13]

I have a hard time wrapping my monkey brain around additional spatial dimensions.

Same goes for time travel, not to be confused with time dilation.

 

[unimackpass]

Contact- one of my favorite movies if not favorite. Doesn't hurt that Foster is so dang hot.

"I'm going through some kind of tunnel......I must have went through a worm hole.....I had no idea"

 

[N13]

 

[SummerStriker]

 

[M3t4tr0n]

Sometimes you don't even have to believe no matter how syndical and jaded someone might be, things happen.

https://www.godupdates.com/atheist-scientist-becomes-a-christian-after-a-visit-from-angels/

Although I was unconscious and my body lay paralyzed on the floor, I felt like I was outside my body and could hear and see all the commotion my heart failure had caused around me," he explains. "That is when beings of light came and comforted me. They did not say anything, but I knew I was going to survive and that my mission on earth had not yet been accomplished. I knew I was not dead. All I remember after that is waking up in the ambulance in excruciating pain."


Pictured: Rolf-Dieter Heuer, Director General of CERN Credit: World News Daily Report

The German genius works for the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) and is also a professor of Physics at a Swiss Institute. Everyone familiar with Gunther knew him as a self-described “no-nonsense, anti-religious atheist.”

“The following weeks were extremely hard on me, not as much as physically, but extremely mentally challenging. All my preconceived notions of reality were permanently destroyed. How could I face my fellow coworkers and family with such an incoherent story? Did I really see what I had seen or was it a mere illusion?”

I'm not an athiest, but how did he determine that seeing unspeaking light beings while unconscious meant that he should become christian?

 

[unimackpass]

I'm not an athiest, but how did he determine that seeing unspeaking light beings while unconscious meant that he should become christian?

Interesting question alright. I've known people that have had similar experiences. Some knew right away and for others it took time to figure out what happened to them.

One of the indicators for this guy seems that he had a intuitive sense that his life had a destiny and purpose bigger than him. He couldn't put a name to who or what but intuitively experienced who and what.
Sounds like he knew some christians and they were probably able to explain theologically what he had known on a experiential level. That's usually the most powerful type of conversion experience. It's not a sky fairy in some distant land (cool kid hipster tripe) but rather something closer than anyone thought imaginable.

Paul had a similar experience that turned his life literally in a 180deg direction. The overpowering experience caused him to ask "who are you?"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_Paul_the_Apostle

My sister had a similar experience that totally changed her life to this day. Everyone that knows her can't deny the transformation that has happened since then. She sees it as the transformational experience of her life, the beginning of a new journey, one that probably saved their marriage for starters. Starting to ramble here.

 

[M3t4tr0n]

Interesting question alright. I've known people that have had similar experiences. Some knew right away and for others it took time to figure out what happened to them.

One of the indicators for this guy seems that he had a intuitive sense that his life had a destiny and purpose bigger than him. He couldn't put a name to who or what but intuitively experienced who and what.
Sounds like he knew some christians and they were probably able to explain theologically what he had known on a experiential level. That's usually the most powerful type of conversion experience. It's not a sky fairy in some distant land (cool kid hipster tripe) but rather something closer than anyone thought imaginable.

Paul had a similar experience that turned his life literally in a 180deg direction. The overpowering experience caused him to ask "who are you?"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_Paul_the_Apostle

My sister had a similar experience that totally changed her life to this day. Everyone that knows her can't deny the transformation that has happened since then. She sees it as the transformational experience of her life, the beginning of a new journey, one that probably saved their marriage for starters. Starting to ramble here.

It seems to me he didn't know exactly what he experienced while unconscious and took the word of someone who told him he saw angels.

 

[unimackpass]

It seems to me he didn't know exactly what he experienced while unconscious and took the word of someone who told him he saw angels.

We don't get many details of what he experienced but it sounds like a personal sense of well being and having purpose was central to his encounter. This fits a biblical theme, God is personal and communicates with people on a intuitive level that can be difficult for the intellect alone to grasp. Orthodox Christianity's understanding of noetic knowledge explores these encounters.

That's probably why he recognized the biblical description of a angelic encounter. It was deeply personal. It's one reason why many people say Christianity isn't a religion but a relationship.

Basically one can say he got woke.-
"Getting woke is like being in the Matrix and taking the red pill. You get a sudden understanding of what's really going on and find out you were wrong about much of what you understood to be truth."

Being the intelligent guy he is one would imagine he didn't accept the first version someone gave him of his own experience but most likely recognized what meshed and what didn't. There's almost a predictable pattern like keeping a diary of ongoing insights of what happened and the desire to be around people that understand what happened.

 

[DeJulez]

Try remote viewing. I'm learning more and more about this and I have realized that I've been doing it for years. I've seen some things. I saw a Draconian ritual ceremony once. They were eating humans like the way we eat chicken wings. It was too scary for me, so I got the fuck out of there. You have to be careful because some of them can see you when you are remote viewing. It is dangerous, but worth it if you have the balls.

Don't ask me to remote view you. The last thing I need to see is one of you guys spanking the monkey. Just sayin'

@senri is inside you.

 

[N13]

@senri is inside you.

We are buddies, but neither of us goes in that way.

 

[N13]

 

[DeJulez]

Crazy is as crazy does.

A lot of notable people in the history of mankind were considered to be crazy during their lifetimes. Many knew that if they would have stood up for what they believed, they would have been executed too. I'm not afraid.

Well, a lot of them were scientists saying things like "The universe is expaning by an unknown entity" or that "the Earth isn't flat"
and then they would follow up with evidence on why their theory is possible.
You said you can watch people jackoff states away without them knowing.

That's a different crazy.

 

[N13]

Well, a lot of them were scientists saying things like "The universe is expaning by an unknown entity" or that "the Earth isn't flat"
and then they would follow up with evidence on why their theory is possible.
You said you can watch people jackoff states away without them knowing.

That's a different crazy.

I've never remote viewed anyone spanking their monkey. OMG people. That would be sick. Threatening to do it is cultural engineering.

I have remote viewed reptilians eating live children however. For like 3-4 seconds because it is dangerous in that "realm." Some of them can see you when you are out and about.

 

[M3t4tr0n]

We don't get many details of what he experienced but it sounds like a personal sense of well being and having purpose was central to his encounter. This fits a biblical theme, God is personal and communicates with people on a intuitive level that can be difficult for the intellect alone to grasp. Orthodox Christianity's understanding of noetic knowledge explores these encounters.

That's probably why he recognized the biblical description of a angelic encounter. It was deeply personal. It's one reason why many people say Christianity isn't a religion but a relationship.

Basically one can say he got woke.-
"Getting woke is like being in the Matrix and taking the red pill. You get a sudden understanding of what's really going on and find out you were wrong about much of what you understood to be truth."

Being the intelligent guy he is one would imagine he didn't accept the first version someone gave him of his own experience but most likely recognized what meshed and what didn't. There's almost a predictable pattern like keeping a diary of ongoing insights of what happened and the desire to be around people that understand what happened.

I don't see any proof of his experience having anything to do with christianity. Still looks like the dude got spooked and when someone told him it was angels he agreed.

 

[unimackpass]

I don't see any proof of his experience having anything to do with christianity. Still looks like the dude got spooked and when someone told him it was angels he agreed.

A guy can say that but he was there and the one that had the experience. He obviously has a super high IQ and it only stands to reason that he back tracked all the reasons to his ultimate conclusion including his own possible vulnerability to suggestion because of the nature of this encounter.

It's definitely something to consider. However, if a person completely discounts it as a possible christian encounter in nature than at some point it becomes a anti-intellectual position motivated by what only the person holding it would know.

 

[M3t4tr0n]

A guy can say that but he was there and the one that had the experience. He obviously has a super high IQ and it only stands to reason that he back tracked all the reasons to his ultimate conclusion including his own possible vulnerability to suggestion because of the nature of this encounter.

It's definitely something to consider. But if a person completely discounts it as a possible christian encounter in nature than at some point it becomes a anti-intellectual position motivated by what only the person holding it would know.

The light beings did not identify themselves or speak. None of the details about his experience provided any proof of christiananity being the answer. Personally I do think there is life after death, I just disagree on any one religion being the only salvation for ones soul.

 

[unimackpass]

The light beings did not identify themselves or speak. None of the details about his experience provided any proof of christiananity being the answer. Personally I do think there is life after death, I just disagree on any one religion being the only salvation for ones soul.

Sometimes the power of nonverbal communication is more powerful in that it can leave a deeper sense of the encounter than mere words. He did have a certain sense of what took place, enough to understand the scriptural implications.

Christian understanding of salvation outside of those who don't understand christianity is a study in itself, quite nuanced. Fundamentalist make the news on this issue so many are not aware exclusivism isn't the predominant teaching in christianity.

Part of the reason I hang with Eastern Orthodox.

http://drjohnsanders.com/christian-approaches-to-the-salvation-of-non-christians/#_ednref19

4. INCLUSIVISM
Inclusivism affirms motifs 1 and 2: God wants to save everyone and salvation is procured through Jesus alone. However, it rejects the belief condition that people must know about and exercise trust in Jesus in order to be saved. For inclusivists the redemptive work of Christ is necessary for the salvation of anyone but people can be saved by Jesus even though they die never hearing about Christ. What God requires is for people to respond favorably to the revelation God has given them. Responding favorably is often understood to mean something like seeking the good and true and manifesting love towards others. The Holy Spirit seeks to produce the “fruit of the Spirit” (love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, and faithfulness) and the Spirit actively works to bring these about in the lives of Christians and non-Christians alike. Inclusivists hold that adherents of other religions who seek what is good, true, and loving find the fulfillment of their quests in Jesus. Since inclusivists affirm that people who meet this condition are saved by Jesus most inclusivists hold that such people, even if they follow another religion, will experience a distinctively Christian salvation in the afterlife. In order for this to happen a postmortem encounter with Jesus is posited. This encounter, however, is not an evangelistic one as it is in the postmortem salvation view. Rather, it is a confirming encounter which informs the individuals of the one who has saved them.[19]

 

[original doom]

I've never remote viewed anyone spanking their monkey. OMG people. That would be sick. Threatening to do it is cultural engineering.

I have remote viewed reptilians eating live children however. For like 3-4 seconds because it is dangerous in that "realm." Some of them can see you when you are out and about.

whos children?

 

[original doom]

Don't underestimate humans. WE do have some kick ass technology and the best of the best genetics. Both of these things are largely hidden to us because you do not give children automatic electromagnetic pulse weapons or teach them how to use CHI power.

We embody the DNA of all of the other tribes/races of beings from our Solar System.

how do i attain said powers ?

 

[N13]

whos children?

Children of humans. It is one facet of the global human trafficking network. Some of them wind up on a dinner plate. Some go elsewhere.

Never underestimate the power of the dark side. Do you know how evil the evil really is? Not even I know this and I don't want to.