Media Ali declares war against ESPN.

[Streeter]

Ariel is a creepy weirdo and Ali is a loud mouth wanna be bully with a napoleon complex.

Can we really just ban Ali and Ariel both?

 

[stipeszn]

Ali controls their best fighters. ESPN and UFC need him more than he needs them. Not a fan of him, it's just facts.

What's Ali gonna do? Take his fighters to another organization? Force them to hold out? Half these guys need to fight to pay the bills, Ali is a good agent but he isnt fucking Ari Gold

 

[HHJ]

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Never trust a dude with a head like that

 

[listrahtes]

Ali controls their best fighters. ESPN and UFC need him more than he needs them. Not a fan of him, it's just facts.

So were do His fighters go to in protest when threstening to leave UFC? Right, nowhere. Ali has not that much leverage.

If he tries a powermove and wants them Change the org he is done.

 

[legcramp]

Ali be snitching again.

 

[Shaddows]

tough spot. big fighters get spoken about. and both fortunately and unfortunately for Ali- he has many big fighters, and they will be talked about. all free press is good press- ali should celebrate the publicity of his fighters instead of trying to control narratives.

Sorry, but I disagree.
Reporters should be held accountable if they lie or pin someone with a bad light purposely.

If anything, Ali has an obligation to protect his fighters from being put in bad light by bad reporters.
This is NOT something they should simply accept, much less thank for the (bad) publicity.

Edit: full disclosure, I have no idea what is Ali complaining about (Nor I think it matters!). I am merely speaking in general.

 

[Trax]

Oh yea ESPN will do all that to defend one slimy journalist who works there. They just recently buried the biggest NBA reporter because of a simple cuss word. If they feel even for a second that Ariel is causing lot of problems they'll kick him out in a heartbeat.

I agree, but that was Adriens mistake.

This situation is just bullying, and they are not gonna allow it. Tilting at windmills.

 

[Deleted member 405583]

I know of a lot of fighters who won't talk to Ariel over the years unless it's part of a mandatory media obligation. Never heard of an entire management team though. Dude is a shit stirrer and an egomaniac, fuck em

 

[dc007]

So what is specifically making Ali cry right now? I searched ESPN and didn't see anything.

 

[Deleted member 405583]

So were do His fighters go to in protest when threstening to leave UFC? Right, nowhere. Ali has not that much leverage.

If he tries a powermove and wants them Change the org he is done.

Nobody threatened to leave. They just wont be doing non-mandatory media obligations with ESPN. Completely different situations

 

[SanDiego**]

Sorry, but I disagree.
Reporters should be held accountable if they lie or pin someone with a bad light purposely.

If anything, Ali has an obligation to protect his fighters from being put in bad light by bad reporters.
This is NOT something they should simply accept, much less thank for the (bad) publicity.

I'm open to the debate if you can provide one lie that ariel has told about his fighters.
im also open to the debate if you can explain how subjectively calling ariel a bad reporter has any value to the argument.

i do agree with you, however, that Ali has a right to protect his folks, and more managers should.

but saying "put in bad light" or "bad reporter" are subjective speculations really gets us nowhere without evidence and facts. but this is an opinion board after all, and you are entitled to it.

 

[Azeroth Adventurer]

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Wth is that? Where is it from?

 

[MM808]

I'm open to the debate if you can provide one lie that ariel has told about his fighters.
im also open to the debate if you can explain how subjectively calling ariel a bad reporter has any value to the argument.

i do agree with you, however, that Ali has a right to protect his folks, and more managers should.

but saying "put in bad light" or "bad reporter" are subjective speculations really gets us nowhere without evidence and facts. but this is an opinion board after all, and you are entitled to it.

I’ve asked this in here and in multiple threads, yet no one can provide anything. I understand he likes to ask fighters tougher questions, but I’m still waiting to see where he has bashed a fighter without merit or lied to anyone.

 

[SanDiego**]

I’ve asked this in here and in multiple threads, yet no one can provide anything. I understand he likes to ask fighters tougher questions, but I’m still waiting to see where he has bashed a fighter without merit or lied to anyone.

people just don't like ariel and they emotionally express it here. i too, have not seen unbiased evidence that the man is a liar or bad reporter. he does do more instigating than anyone in the business, and he does ask uncomfortable questions- but those are a testament to his style rather than his ability

 

[MM808]

people just don't like ariel and they emotionally express it here. i too, have not seen unbiased evidence that the man is a liar or bad reporter. he does do more instigating than anyone in the business, and he does ask uncomfortable questions- but those are a testament to his style rather than his ability

Yeah I agree. He’s the best in the game IMO.

 

[listrahtes]

Nobody threatened to leave. They just wont be doing non-mandatory media obligations with ESPN. Completely different situations

And no one will care about that

 

[Deleted member 405583]

And no one will care about that

Ariel will. On a personal level. Dude is more insecure than Dave meltzer

 

[Shaddows]

I'm open to the debate if you can provide one lie that ariel has told about his fighters.
im also open to the debate if you can explain how subjectively calling ariel a bad reporter has any value to the argument.

i do agree with you, however, that Ali has a right to protect his folks, and more managers should.

but saying "put in bad light" or "bad reporter" are subjective speculations really gets us nowhere without evidence and facts. but this is an opinion board after all, and you are entitled to it.

Sorry,
Are you telling me Ariel NEVER lied?
Are you telling me Ariel NEVER started shit by pinning a fighter against another?
Are you telling me Ariel NEVER did something blatantly wrong that he was not supposed to do (hint: that's how he was banned from the UFC at some point).

It seems to me you just don't know Ariel then...

Besides, it seems you missed my edit on the other post. IDC about this specific issue. I was talking in general, so demanding a specific example defeats what I wrote.

 

[listrahtes]

Ariel will. On a personal level. Dude is more insecure than Dave meltzer

He will but who cares about that. Ali is a pathetic bully , Ariel a whiner.

 

[SanDiego**]

Sorry,
Are you telling me Ariel NEVER lied?
Are you telling me Ariel NEVER started shit by pinning a fighter against another?
Are you telling me Ariel NEVER did something blatantly wrong that he was not supposed to do (hint: that's how he was banned from the UFC at some point).

It seems to me you just don't know Ariel then...

Besides, it seems you missed my edit on the other post. IDC about this specific issue. I was talking in general, so demanding a specific example defeats what I wrote.

you are right, I don't know ariel. and I doubt you do either.

if you make a claim, then you have to support it. the tone you are taking is an argumentive one, and if you cant do anything else in an argument, the lest you can do is provide evidence of the argument you are making.

im not asking for anything complicated, just asking you to give proof of one lie that ariel has told to support the argument you ate attempting. if you cant do that, im comfortable with moving on and hope you are too