Ali Abdelaziz....What a guy

Juventud said:
He's the next Malki Kawa.

Watch fighters start to turn on him in post fight interviews like Mitrione did.
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Lol. I remember that dude. Is he still around or MIA like bloodstain lane? Ahh the good days.
 
rakeleaves said:
Terrorist claims against Ali are mostly conspiracy BS made by that doufus hipster MMA reporter. The US gov would have his ass in Gitmo if the claims were true.
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No they weren't. They're from another journalist who investigated the Fuqra cell etc.I'd have to go back and read it all again to get the names etc, but Mike Russell isn't the primary source for that at all.

Went and checked there are several sources this article by Professor Ryan Mauro

here is his bio "Ryan Mauro is Clarion Project’s Shillman Fellow and National Security Analyst. A professor of homeland security, counter-terrorism and political science, he consults to government agencies and policy-makers."

He wrote this https://www.fuqrafiles.com/ufc-supe...tlight-to-fuqra-linked-manager-ali-abdelaziz/

Another dude called Matt Apuzzo (author) wrote this

https://www.fuqrafiles.com/knowledgebase/nypd-informant-ali-abdel-aziz/
 
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TR1 said:
Are you serious? Did you even read the thing you linked?

WRONG ABDEL AZIS LMAO!

THis guy was born in Saudi Arabia, MMA Ali is from Egypt.
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My bad, that's not the article I seen on second look. But he's in those files somewhere lol.
 
TR1 said:
Are you serious? Did you even read the thing you linked?

WRONG ABDEL AZIS LMAO!

THis guy was born in Saudi Arabia, MMA Ali is from Egypt.
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I posted the correct stuff below you. Ali was to do with the Furqa cell way before 9/11 and everyone getting hauled off to Gitmo.
 
The Merchant said:
I posted the correct stuff below you. Ali was to do with the Furqa cell way before 9/11 and everyone getting hauled off to Gitmo.
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Thanks for the link.

However, that website is not exactly an unbiased source lol. They have a pretty clear agenda.

They try to make it seem like Muslims of America and ul- Fuqra are one and the same. Just brief googling will find that claim to be contentious.

In fact, can you save me some time and point out exactly where it is proven he has taken part in terrorist acts, and further, was an active member of a proven terrorist org?
 
TR1 said:
Thanks for the link.

However, that website is not exactly an unbiased source lol. They have a pretty clear agenda.

They try to make it seem like Muslims of America and ul- Fuqra are one and the same. Just brief googling will find that claim to be contentious.

In fact, can you save me some time and point out exactly where it is proven he has taken part in terrorist acts, and further, was an active member of a proven terrorist org?
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I provided 2 sources collaborating the same story, there hasn't been time to read all the information in the two links and their supplementary data. So not sure why you're coming back as if you made a noble effort to fact check.

I'm not going to waste time posting data that isn't read. There's a 23 minute documentary you need to watch and everything.
 
The Merchant said:
I provided 2 sources collaborating the same story, there hasn't been time to read all the information in the two links and their supplementary data. So not sure why you're coming back as if you made a noble effort to fact check.

I'm not going to waste time posting data that isn't read. There's a 23 minute documentary you need to watch and everything.
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I've been reading about Ali in general, hence why I was wondering if there was something new here.

I will look @ the sources you listed in depth, because quite frankly what I see is a whole lot of accusations with little to go for them (as far as terror goes).

So far, it is full of "sources say" without actual evidence, and a whole lot of circumstancial "He was around a mosque that may have had other Muslims there who may have been part of Islamist groups who may or may not be terrorists".


This website isn't the NYT or another major newspaper which actually has to make an attempt to double check their sources or suffer serious blowback. They can literally post anything and claim "confidential sources".

I mean 90% of their citations are Mike Russel LMAO! He proved jack about Ali being a terrorist.
 
YellowBanenoo said:
Mir and Werdum case is particularly more embarrassing. Flying all the way to see a dictator for his amusement.

And Weidman ..

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Dressing up and performing like a circus animal.

Embarrassing.
 
TR1 said:
I mean 90% of their citations are Mike Russel LMAO! He proved jack about Ali being a terrorist.
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That's just patently untrue you know who the source is it's Ali. This is literally the 7th line of what i posted, you never even read 7 lines down?

Abdelaziz’s involvement with Fuqra and the U.S. government was first revealed by author and activist Martin Mawyer, who was approached by Abdelaziz in September 2010 about telling his story. That account first appeared in Mawyer’s 2012 book.

Mike Russell had nothing to do with it in 2010.
 
Martin Mawyer is a Christian fundie who is NOT a respected journalist lmao. Are you even serious right now? I am supposed to trust the words that this clown got from Ali, himself another bragging clown?

How about something a little more legitimate, like this:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16130079-enemies-within

By Actual Pulitzer Prize Journos. From what I have read about the book, they cite Ali as having connections to potential extremist orgs, and that the FBI nabbed him when he was in jail for identity theft charges.
Again, this doesn't make him a terrorist, nor part of a terrorist cell. And it sure as shit doesn't prove this ridiculous MoA/ul-Furqa witch hunt this paranoid website you linked promotes.
Do you have this book? Can you cite relevant passages? I might have to buy it, just because I am tired of mouth-breathers on here hyperventilating about how Ali is a terrorist with no actual evidence.

As for source, YES, it IS true. Freaking look:

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They literally cite him non stop. And little else.

Proving that a guy is a Jihadi through a CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALIST source. DO you have any idea how stupid that concept is?
 
I don’t really care for him, I wouldn’t mind if he shut his trap from time to time but whatever. But I do have to chuckle at how he ruffles so many feathers here on the heavies. It really is great.
 
krelianx said:
I hate that guy more than anyone else in the MMA world. He is the biggest moron and sleazebag in the business. And the fact he has the nerve to talk like a tough guy makes him a pathetic weasel.
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and I love it when sherdoggers get triggered lmfao
 
TR1 said:
Martin Mawyer is a Christian fundie who is NOT a respected journalist lmao. Are you even serious right now? I am supposed to trust the words that this clown got from Ali, himself another bragging clown?

How about something a little more legitimate, like this:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16130079-enemies-within

By Actual Pulitzer Prize Journos. From what I have read about the book, they cite Ali as having connections to potential extremist orgs, and that the FBI nabbed him when he was in jail for identity theft charges.
Again, this doesn't make him a terrorist, nor part of a terrorist cell. And it sure as shit doesn't prove this ridiculous MoA/ul-Furqa witch hunt this paranoid website you linked promotes.
Do you have this book? Can you cite relevant passages? I might have to buy it, just because I am tired of mouth-breathers on here hyperventilating about how Ali is a terrorist with no actual evidence.

As for source, YES, it IS true. Freaking look:

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They literally cite him non stop. And little else.

Proving that a guy is a Jihadi through a CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALIST source. DO you have any idea how stupid that concept is?
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Matt Apuzzo is the name of the author of the book you cite, look at my first post last link see a familiar name i'm citing? Matt Apuzzo writes that he joined the MOA himself.

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Where's Noah tho? little rat bastard that aziz fella.
 
rakeleaves said:
Terrorist claims against Ali are mostly conspiracy BS made by that doufus hipster MMA reporter. The US gov would have his ass in Gitmo if the claims were true.
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he turned informant dummy, thats why his ass is free
 
Matt Apuzzo did not write the link you cited, where did you get that idea?

You mean this link, yes?

https://www.fuqrafiles.com/knowledgebase/nypd-informant-ali-abdel-aziz/

They do mention Apuzzo in it, here:

According to Enemies Within by Matt Apuzzo and Adam Goldman, Ali was 25 years old when he became “Confidential Informant 184” for the NYPD Intelligence Division in 2002. He was approached when he was in jail in Colorado for document forgery.
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That's it. I have found that much as well, but unfortunately I don't have their full book. However....the Apuzzo citation makes little proof for the rest of the wild claims the article makes re. Ali and his supposed activity in a supposedly jihadi network.

Apuzzo just proves Ali was an informant, not that he was a terrorist.
 
Jizzer said:
he turned informant dummy, thats why his ass is free
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Why don't you compile a list of people who actively took part in terror activities, then got off as easily as Ali because they snitched lol.
 
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