Media Alex Pereira: 2nd Biggest UFC Star? 1000's Of Fans Crowding Him In AUSTRAILIA

Black9 said:
Conor i think is still #1 in terms of star power as much as he isn't fighting.
His return fight will probably sell the most out of anyone.
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I doubt that.

I think Pereira vs. Jones @ HW would outsell every other fight in the history the sport + any fight Conor McGregor could do at this point.
 
IronGolem007 said:
I doubt that.

I think Pereira vs. Jones @ HW would outsell every other fight in the history the sport + any fight Conor McGregor could do at this point.
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I'd say Max vs Conor for BMF title or Conor vs Islam(at 155 or 170 belt) would outsell that.

As much as i dislike his twitter fingers now, Conor consistently sells over 1 mil ppv buys+ no matter who he fights
 
Black9 said:
I'd say Max vs Conor for BMF title or Conor vs Islam(at 155 or 170 belt) would outsell that.

As much as i dislike his twitter fingers now, Conor consistently sells over 1 mil ppv buys+ no matter who he fights
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That's a good rebuttal.

It would be close, for sure.

Holloway = a stud, a true BMF, and the entire world wants to see him avenge his loss to Conor, and send the Irishman back to twitter.
Not arguing with your counter, rubbing my chin to it.

However, that said, consider my argument:

Alex Pereira = a killer/finisher
Everyone wants to see Jon Jones knocked out.
Jon Jones has struggled with good strikers (Thiago Santos, Alexander Gustafsson, Dominic Reyes) ... and Pereira is better than all three, and is 2-3x more powerful than all three.
Jones couldn't take down either of these three (he took down Gustafsson, but not in their first meeting).

Alex Pereira still has a chance to make history; while no one really takes Conor McGregor seriously anymore as a viable contender.

Alex Pereira, if he beat Jones, especially by KO, would be the first fighter ever to defeat Jones, the first fighter ever to KO Jones, and the first fighter in UFC history to win 3 belts.

McGregor may still be a PPV sell, but I think the entire dynamics of an Alex Pereira x Jon Jones fight eclipses a Max Holloway x Conor McGregor fight, all things considered, and by a country mile.
 
No doubt he is right up there.

I think there is few guys depending on the match ups that can do top business. But Conor is still king no doubt in drawing department no matter how much hardcore fans are over it.
 
Lol imagine thinking Pereira vs Jones would sell more than a Conor fight.

Pereira is a great star for the UFC but Conor is in a universe of his own.
 
IronGolem007 said:
That's a good rebuttal.

It would be close, for sure.

Holloway = a stud, a true BMF, and the entire world wants to see him avenge his loss to Conor, and send the Irishman back to twitter.
Not arguing with your counter, rubbing my chin to it.

However, that said, consider my argument:

Alex Pereira = a killer/finisher
Everyone wants to see Jon Jones knocked out.
Jon Jones has struggled with good strikers (Thiago Santos, Alexander Gustafsson, Dominic Reyes) ... and Pereira is better than all three, and is 2-3x more powerful than all three.
Jones couldn't take down either of these three (he took down Gustafsson, but not in their first meeting).

Alex Pereira still has a chance to make history; while no one really takes Conor McGregor seriously anymore as a viable contender.

Alex Pereira, if he beat Jones, especially by KO, would be the first fighter ever to defeat Jones, the first fighter ever to KO Jones, and the first fighter in UFC history to win 3 belts.

McGregor may still be a PPV sell, but I think the entire dynamics of an Alex Pereira x Jon Jones fight eclipses a Max Holloway x Conor McGregor fight, all things considered, and by a country mile.
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I don't think Jones has ever cracked a million PPVs. Pereira certainly hasn't. Also the optics of Jones ducking the interim champion yet again to face a non-wrestler are terrible.
 
Wreckless said:
Lol imagine thinking Pereira vs Jones would sell more than a Conor fight.

Pereira is a great star for the UFC but Conor is in a universe of his own.
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I think It depends Conor's opponent. Pereira vs Jones would sell more than Conor vs lets say Moicano.
 
payton said:
I think It depends Conor's opponent. Pereira vs Jones would sell more than Conor vs lets say Moicano.
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He said Holloway. Conor would never fight someone like Moicano. But even if he did i'd argue that it would sell more.

Like someone mentionned above, Jones never cracked 1 million PPV buys, not even at his peak popularity during his rivalry with DC. And I also doubt Pereira has.

Conor is a household name. The guy has like 50 million instagram followers. He's a legit celebrity.

I guarantee if you ask some random boomer who Alex Pereira is they'd have no idea. But they definitely heard of Conor.
 
blaseblase said:
I don't think Jones has ever cracked a million PPVs. Pereira certainly hasn't. Also the optics of Jones ducking the interim champion yet again to face a non-wrestler are terrible.
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You are wrong.

Pereira has headlined the 3rd- and 4th-highest gates in UFC History already (UFC 303 and UFC 300, $15.9 Mil. and $16.5 Mil., respectively).
And this was against the no-names Hill and Procházka.

Against Jones, the PPV buys would be unprecedented.

No one has a better chance of knocking out Jon Jones than Alex Pereira.

It would outsell every other UFC fight, ever, including Khabib x Conor ($17.2 Mil.) and McGregor x Alvarez ($17.5 Mil),

Conor broke records when people thought he was on top of the world. Everyone knows he is on a losing skid now.

Pereira is bigger than McGregor, hits harder than McGregor, and is already achieved Champion status (in 2 different weight divisions) much faster than McGregor.

To win a 3RD CHAMPIONSHIP ... against the undisputed GOAT in Jon Jones ... is a bigger, better, more exciting, and MORE HISTORICALLY-SIGNIFICANT fight than anything McGregor can offer at this point.

I stand by my statements. If Pereira faces Jones, it will be the biggest gate/biggest fight in UFC history.
 
IronGolem007 said:
You are wrong.

Pereira has headlined the 3rd- and 4th-highest gates in UFC History already (UFC 303 and UFC 300, $15.9 Mil. and $16.5 Mil., respectively).
And this was against the no-names Hill and Procházka.

Against Jones, the PPV buys would be unprecedented.

No one has a better chance of knocking out Jon Jones than Alex Pereira.

It would outsell every other UFC fight, ever, including Khabib x Conor ($17.2 Mil.) and McGregor x Alvarez ($17.5 Mil),

Conor broke records when people thought he was on top of the world. Everyone knows he is on a losing skid now.

Pereira is bigger than McGregor, hits harder than McGregor, and is already achieved Champion status (in 2 different weight divisions) much faster than McGregor.

To win a 3RD CHAMPIONSHIP ... against the undisputed GOAT in Jon Jones ... is a bigger, better, more exciting, and MORE HISTORICALLY-SIGNIFICANT fight than anything McGregor can offer at this point.

I stand by my statements. If Pereira faces Jones, it will be the biggest gate/biggest fight in UFC history.
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Not arguing with you, as you are correct in the current state of things... But (Yes I know a huge BUT/IF...) IF* conner returns and looks in the least impressive against a waning Chandler... he will be WAY back on top... just on this site alone... there will be a horrendous influx of old and new worthless McHuggies starting threads like (and these are all threads I've seen previously) "McGregor for U.S. Present"," McGOATer is a Messiah", and my favorite "Old Man Deserved to be hit..."
 
ultra321 said:
Not arguing with you, as you are correct in the current state of things... But (Yes I know a huge BUT/IF...) IF* conner returns and looks in the least impressive against a waning Chandler... he will be WAY back on top... just on this site alone... there will be a horrendous influx of old and new worthless McHuggies starting threads like (and these are all threads I've seen previously) "McGregor for U.S. Present"," McGOATer is a Messiah", and my favorite "Old Man Deserved to be hit..."
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"Looking impressive against Chandler" ... for a meaningless fight is puppy shit. Chandler is a multi-loser; Conor is a multi-loser.

Meanwhile, Alex Pereira beating JON JONES ... for a THIRD WORLD TITLE ... is a MAJOR EVENT.

The most major event in UFC history.

For you to compare the two fights, shows how absolutely clueless you are as to the Big Picture, both historically as well as just general interest.
 
I would say 3rd biggest star behind Jon Jones and Conor
 
IronGolem007 said:
"Looking impressive against Chandler" ... for a meaningless fight is puppy shit. Chandler is a multi-loser; Conor is a multi-loser.

Meanwhile, Alex Pereira beating JON JONES ... for a THIRD WORLD TITLE ... is a MAJOR EVENT.

The most major event in UFC history.

For you to compare the two fights, shows how absolutely clueless you are as to the Big Picture, both historically as well as just general interest.
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you've missed the big picture... this isn't about actual accomplishments... it's about star power/Money and followings of mindless shit heads... connor has that, I don't know how or why but millions of people are attracted to him....
all it will take is a arguably impressive win over a walking corpse for all those assholes to come flooding out of the wood work again... I'm not saying it will be better or more important or more historical than Alex winning a third belt... but what ever they book him in afterwards (Vs Max for BMF for instance) will be bigger and sell more. connor has that, to a lesser extent Ronda did too...
 
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