Crime Ahmaud Arbery shooting v3

[A Lurker]

are the McMichaels not charged with crimes?

After a looooooooonnnnng fucking wait. Kowboy

 

[blaseblah]

One racist in the world is one too many. However the amount of white supremacist groups and members in the US is so small it's almost insanity to mention those groups as if they have any influence or impact on society. Most studies say that the prison system and hate towards whites is actually the main driver as to why (the very few) white supremacy groups exist; protection in prison. Just look at the AB and where/how they operate.

Actual white supremacists may be a small population. The issue is when people buy into their propaganda and contribute to spreading it.

 

[BIKES!]

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People other than Ahmaud visited the house under construction but only Ahmaud was suspected. Why was that?

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Wait... Show me one piece of evidence or a single statement that only Ahmaud was a suspect? How on god's green earth can you come to that conclusion?

 

[HockeyBjj]

https://www.kfvs12.com/2020/05/12/paducah-police-investigating-homicide/

I wonder why stories like this don’t get 10000000 post v36 type threads

This person was arrested immediate and charged with murder


In the Aubrey case, it took 2 months and video in media outraging people to get the police to act

That’s the difference. Now why was one arrested immediately, and the other off the hook until the general public saw what went down? Ask that question.

 

[A Lurker]

This person was arrested immediate and charged with murder


In the Aubrey case, it took 2 months and video in media outraging people to get the police to act

That’s the difference. Now why was one arrested immediately, and the other off the hook until the general public saw what went down? Ask that question.

You make some very good points, but what you are failing to recognise is that the perpetrator in the case KK brought up is in fact black.

I think that was the point he was trying to make.

 

[Confucamus]

This is the lawyer representing his family.







National Security
Far-right groups are spreading racist, false claims about shooting victim Ahmaud Arbery, analysts say

A man stands next to the memorial for Ahmaud Arbery on May 8 at the place where he was shot and killed in February. (Dustin Chambers/Reuters)
By
Souad Mekhennet
May 17, 2020 at 9:00 a.m. EDT
Far-right and neo-Nazi groups are spreading racist and false information about a black jogger who was fatally shot in Georgia to promote their agendas on social media platforms, according to organizations that monitor online extremist activity.

The campaigns gained traction after the release this month of a video showing the moments before Ahmaud Arbery, 25, was shot dead in February. Two white men were arrested and charged in the shooting after the video drew widespread attention to the incident.

Some of the online posts, which include racist language, memes and graphics, claim that Arbery was carrying a hammer and wearing boots when he was killed, as the groups try to create false narratives about his death, analysts said.

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In the video, Arbery is wearing a white T-shirt, shorts and running shoes. Security footage shows a man in similar clothing who is believed to be Arbery entering a house under construction just before the shooting. The owner of the property has said nothing was stolen from the site.



Hundreds gather to remember Ahmaud Arbery

Hundreds of people gathered at Sidney Lanier Park in Brunswick, Ga., on May 9 to celebrate the life of Ahmaud Arbery, who was fatally shot in February. (Drea Cornejo/The Washington Post)
“The most remarkable finding is that an alternate narrative was created, most notably that Arbery was carrying a hammer and wearing Timberland boots — two claims which CCTV footage and mainstream media reporting does not support,” said a senior terrorism analyst for the Middle East Media Research Institute, which is collecting information related to the case. The analyst spoke on the condition of anonymity because of security concerns.

The groups portray the two arrested men, Gregory McMichael and his son, Travis McMichael, as victims, the analysts said. Both men have been charged with murder and aggravated assault.

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Gregory McMichael, a former police detective, told authorities that he believed Arbery was responsible for burglaries in the area.

Members of the far right say the arrests are an example of alleged anti-white bias in the mainstream media and perceived injustice against white people.


“White-nationalist groups have long pushed a narrative that there is an epidemic of black-on-white crime in the U.S. that has gone unreported, and that black men in particular are inherently violent and represent an especial threat to white women,” said Cassie Miller, senior research analyst for the Southern Poverty Law Center.

“White nationalists are using the murder of Ahmaud Arbery to further prop up this narrative,” Miller said.


Some supporters of the groups have also attacked President Trump for calling the killing “horrible” and saying Arbery looked like a “wonderful young guy.” A video clip of the president speaking about the incident was posted on a far-right channel with nearly 3,000 users on the messaging app Telegram. Using racist language, the poster said the reaction to the killing was a reminder that the United States “is the Great Satan.”


“Although initially we saw white supremacists embrace some of his rhetoric, this particular incident brings to light the criticism they have for his comments condemning this attack. Largely they are concerned that he is not representing the white race,” said Joanna Mendelson, associate director of the center on extremism for the Anti-Defamation League.

More expressions of anger toward Trump and conservatives appeared on the same channel after the Justice Department said it would review the case and determine whether federal hate crime charges should be pursued. The post, which includes a story about the announcement, ends by saying that the coronavirus is the plague the United States deserves.


The posts are not limited to users in the United States. A Norwegian neo-Nazi posted a graphic showing a black man whose face is covered by a racist illustration jogging and carrying a hammer. Other neo-Nazis based in Europe have discussed the killing on social media as well, the analysts said.


A private Facebook group called Justice for Gregory and Travis McMichael and several GoFundMe pages created in support of the two men were infiltrated and shut down, according to the Middle East Media Research Institute.

The video of the final moments of Arbery’s life show him jogging on a road on Feb. 23 in a neighborhood about two miles from his home in the city of Brunswick. Two armed white men approach in a truck, and the younger man and Arbery struggle. Gunshots can be heard, and Arbery staggers and collapses.

Headline says there was racist claims made about Arbery, but doesn't list what they are. Are they saying it's racist to imply that he had a hammer on him?

 

[b34stmode]

are the McMichaels not charged with crimes?

It took 2 months for them to be charged and the GBI stepping in. That is why this story is huge now. The same exact thing would happen with any story that went down like this.

 

[Kowboy Karl]

This person was arrested immediate and charged with murder


In the Aubrey case, it took 2 months and video in media outraging people to get the police to act

That’s the difference. Now why was one arrested immediately, and the other off the hook until the general public saw what went down? Ask that question.

read The first da recusal

 

[HockeyBjj]

You make some very good points, but what you are failing to recognise is that the perpetrator in the case KK brought up is in fact black.

I think that was the point he was trying to make.

No I realize that. I’m saying this case isn’t simply drawing national attention because a white dude killed a black dude, and KK crying because every black dude who kills a white dude doesn’t make national news

This case has far more to do with the fact the killers weren’t arrested and charged and then tried by a jury of their peers to see if they were guilty. Nothing was done. And that then is what leads to the questions of were the racial aspects what allowed this to be swept under the rug for two months (I think it has far more to do with corrupt cronyism of police not wanting to arrest an old DA buddy, even if he literally killed someone)

If the two had been arrested and charged the day it happened, and then a trial date set and it left for a jury to decide if justified or not, this case wouldn’t have made it out of local news. Maybe some rage bait racial justice Facebook pages would share the video with dramatic captions if they saw it.

 

[b34stmode]

read The first da recusal

The DA who is under investigation by the GBI? Same DA who said private citizens were in "hot pursuit" of a criminal?

 

[A Lurker]

No I realize that. I’m saying this case isn’t simply drawing national attention because a white dude killed a black dude, and KK crying because every black dude who kills a white dude doesn’t make national news

This case has far more to do with the fact the killers weren’t arrested and charged and then fact a jury of their peers to see if they were guilty. Nothing was done. And that then is what leads to the questions of were the racial aspects what allowed this to be swept under the rug for two months (I think it has far more to do with corrupt cronyism of police not wanting to arrest an old DA buddy, even if he literally killed someone)

If the two had been arrested and charged the day it happened, and then a trial date set and it left for a jury to decide if justified or not, this case wouldn’t have made it out of local news. Maybe some rage bait racial justice Facebook pages would share the video with dramatic captions if they saw it.

I know. I think this case will result in more than those two mongs going to jail; the police lying to the mother is so fucking sketchy.

 

[Max Power]

if anybody has good poll suggestions let me know

Do you think the shooting was justified? Yes/No

 

[DeJulez]

12 miles aways, Timberland Boots, khaki shorts, Hammer in the street, all bullshit.

 

[Strychnine]

https://www.kfvs12.com/2020/05/12/paducah-police-investigating-homicide/

I wonder why stories like this don’t get 10000000 post v36 type threads

Maybe because you didn't make one yet?

 

[DeJulez]

Wait... Show me one piece of evidence or a single statement that only Ahmaud was a suspect? How on god's green earth can you come to that conclusion?

What happen to the Timberland argument? I thought you said he was wearing boots.

 

[AgonyandIrony]

This person was arrested immediate and charged with murder


In the Aubrey case, it took 2 months and video in media outraging people to get the police to act

That’s the difference. Now why was one arrested immediately, and the other off the hook until the general public saw what went down? Ask that question.

And they lied to his mother about his murder lol. That seems to be fine with some people.

 

[Kowboy Karl]

You make some very good points, but what you are failing to recognise is that the perpetrator in the case KK brought up is in fact black.

I think that was the point he was trying to make.

and the fact that he literally went and hunted down a woman in her home who was trying to help him

nobody cares

 

[A Lurker]

and the fact that he literally went and hunted down a woman in her home who was trying to help him

nobody cares

It sounds fucking horrible, but the guy that did it was charged and will be put behind bars for hopefully the rest of his life.

Justice will be served. RIP that poor lady, but the two cases are not analogous in how they were investigated.

 

[Kowboy Karl]

It sounds fucking horrible, but the guy that did it was charged and will be put behind bars for hopefully the rest of his life.

Justice will be served. RIP that poor lady, but the two cases are not analogous in how they were investigated.

thanks for being the first person to mention the victim

 

[A Lurker]

Why did the police lie to the mum? Is there any plausible reason why that occurred?

 

[AgonyandIrony]

Why did the police lie to the mum? Is there any plausible reason why that occurred?

The same reason it took so long for them to get arrested and the it's police force that murdered someone else.

Good old boys in blue. Also they chased him for four fucking minutes? That's insane... But same question stands I always ask about car chases... What kind of music do you think they were listening to while they chased him down with guns?

 

[jk7707]

The same reason it took so long for them to get arrested and the it's police force that murdered someone else.

Good old boys in blue. Also they chased him for four fucking minutes? That's insane... But same question stands I always ask about car chases... What kind of music do you think they were listening to while they chased him down with guns?

Hot pursuit...At jogging speed...for four minutes. My guess on music, Country boy can survive.

 

[A Lurker]

The same reason it took so long for them to get arrested and the it's police force that murdered someone else.

Good old boys in blue. Also they chased him for four fucking minutes? That's insane... But same question stands I always ask about car chases... What kind of music do you think they were listening to while they chased him down with guns?

I'd like to say banjo music, but i'm afraid that a certain Mod might accuse me of being "the real racist".

 

[A Lurker]

The same reason it took so long for them to get arrested and the it's police force that murdered someone else.

Good old boys in blue. Also they chased him for four fucking minutes? That's insane... But same question stands I always ask about car chases... What kind of music do you think they were listening to while they chased him down with guns?

Double

 

[cunglaowins]

Why did the police lie to the mum? Is there any plausible reason why that occurred?

Yeah, questions of police misconducts after the fact won’t matter when they try to determine the father and sons guilt.

1. were they lawful to try to detain him the way they did?

2. Was it self defense for Travis to pull the trigger? which will come down to Did Travis point the gun at Ahmaud? I say he did not by the fact that Ahmaud ran straight at him. The trigger was pulled only after physical contact