After Merab v Yan you will be shocked how fast MMA changes

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Perception, legacy, popularity, relevancy.

Something about two men fighting it out in an octagon somehow means these can all change an incredible amount from just one fight.


Merab is currently easily the bantamweight goat. What happens when Yan beats him, then goes on to beat O Malley and a top contender.

Mark my words. I put it here now. In a years time we will be talking about Yan as the BW goat.
 
Mark my words. I put it here now. In a years time we will be talking about Yan as the BW goat.


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Love Yan, but he doesn’t really possess that one punch power that can catch Merab …. And he’s not a high output striker either (he’s low volume)

So in theory he shouldn’t out point Merab … and hasn’t shown an ability to close the show with a knockout … son not sure how he’s supposed to pull this one off

I say this as a huge Petr Yan fan …and I think he’s more technical in fact … just feels like to beat merab you need a knockout and Yan isn’t a knockout power puncher
 
The legacy and popularity of Merab continues to grow after Saturday night📈
 
Mark my words. I put it here now. In a years time we will be talking about Yan as the BW goat.
I would love for that to be the case. I really would.

But merab train has no breaks. If he tears through yan again the case will be closed for a good long while
 
The legacy and popularity of Merab continues to grow after Saturday night📈
Agreed. Shame Merab hidden behind a bigger paywall this weekend. But as a huge Islam fan, I'd be good with Merab being listed #1 P4P until Islam beats one of the top 4 WW (not Usman).

Feels like going forward serious matchmaking will be a thing of the past and we won't see fighters getting a chance to dethrone the best over and over like Merab and instead their resumes will be filled with beating guys that are popular in the 5-10 range, so will be hard for anyone to pass Merab. Merab's 2025 alone (with a win tomorrow) is better than most champions entire 3 year runs.
 
Beating Merab will take:

a) a finisher who can catch him
b) someone with the wrestling and cardio to hang with him for 5 rounds (Umar was close)

Yan is neither.
 
Beating Merab will take:

a) a finisher who can catch him
b) someone with the wrestling and cardio to hang with him for 5 rounds (Umar was close)

Yan is neither.

Yan on a technical and athletic level is actually probably the best opponent to beat him - he does have impressive power (he's hurt almost every opponent he's fought) and the ability to fight in all phases (pressuring/countering/pocket/clinch), plus his wrestling and grappling are pretty high-level and he does have great cardio (no one has Merab cardio though).

The problem with Yan is stylistic, he is a "downloader" that likes to let opponents show their cards first so he can counter, then once opponents get countered they let him pressure and he can start to build set-ups and momentum. That doesn't work with Merab, if you wait to download he'll just be coming at you non-stop with all types of feints, strikes, takedowns, and you are reacting and defending. It becomes an instinctively reactive fight where you lose the initiative and it's almost impossible to gain it back.

The way to beat Merab is to push him backwards and make him the one reacting, which is easier said than done. The blueprint is probably setting a high-pace yourself to force the fight in the middle and look to land lots of body/leg strikes early, don't even worry about head-shots except as counters on knees/uppercuts. Everything should be about putting out a ton of volume and not letting Merab push you back and force you to think about what he might do next.

Yan needs to fight against type here and almost be disrespectfully aggressive, which is risky because that's where you can get clobbered with a counter or give away a cheap takedown. But he'll lose if he just tries to wait and counter early, because he'll start digging a grave of cardio that will make his output and technique progressively wilt. As that happens landing fight-changing shots decrease in probability and output decreases, so you can't win a war of attrition or land a shot that takes away Merab's cardio (i.e. liver shot) or cripple a leg with low kicks

It's going to have to be a "gambit" from Yan to win his fight - just go hard and fast early and often as much as possible, assume you won't win a decision so don't try to draw out the fight and use perfect counter-tactics. It's going to take almost suicidal self-belief in his abilities, most fighters can't fight like that (in a way where they know they are going to gas later), but perhaps a man of Yan's hard character is willing to die on his sword because that's what it's going to take in terms of mentality to beat Merab.
 
Yan on a technical and athletic level is actually probably the best opponent to beat him -

Yes to all that stuff you said and all ... but


It's going to have to be a "gambit" from Yan to win his fight - just go hard and fast early and often as much as possible, assume you won't win a decision so don't try to draw out the fight and use perfect counter-tactics.

There's that fine print that'll fuck you up every time...


It's going to take almost suicidal self-belief in his abilities, most fighters can't fight like that (in a way where they know they are going to gas later), but perhaps a man of Yan's hard character is willing to die on his sword because that's what it's going to take in terms of mentality to beat Merab.

Translation.

One of these dudes has to fight in a way that is completely different t than the way he has fought thru his career.

And that dude is Yan.


So...

Probably smart to bet on Merab who just gotta do normal merab shit
 
Yes to all that stuff you said and all ... but




There's that fine print that'll fuck you up every time...




Translation.

One of these dudes has to fight in a way that is completely different t than the way he has fought thru his career.

And that dude is Yan.


So...

Probably smart to bet on Merab who just gotta do normal merab shit

I mean yeah, you are correct in your assessment. Very difficult to “fight against type” if your style is baked in.

But if Leon can pull a 5th round last minute head kick out of a hat by pressuring and building on Usman in the rematch when he was losing, anything is possible.

Not saying I would bet on it obviously, but Yan changing his approach vs Merab is highly more plausible then what Leon pulled off.
 
I mean yeah, you are correct in your assessment. Very difficult to “fight against type” if your style is baked in.

But if Leon can pull a 5th round last minute head kick out of a hat by pressuring and building on Usman in the rematch when he was losing, anything is possible.

Not saying I would bet on it obviously, but Yan changing his approach vs Merab is highly more plausible then what Leon pulled off.

I agree with your analysis BTW.

What you said is probably the best path for Yan to win.

I'm not a gambling man... but if I was I would probably avoid betting on the guy who needs to change how he fights to win.

Yan is a slow starter. Even after it has been widely known and his opponents have taken advantage of it...
(I haven't followed him closely enough to know if he fixed it, but maybe he did if he went from a 3 fight loss streak to 3 fight Win streak)

Yan has 7 consecutive decisions iirc.. so him finishing Merab seems a big ask.


Could Yan pull it off?
... maybe.

Only way I see him winning is if merab is injured
 
I agree with your analysis BTW.

What you said is probably the best path for Yan to win.

I'm not a gambling man... but if I was I would probably avoid betting on the guy who needs to change how he fights to win.

Yan is a slow starter. Even after it has been widely known and his opponents have taken advantage of it...
(I haven't followed him closely enough to know if he fixed it, but maybe he did if he went from a 3 fight loss streak to 3 fight Win streak)

Yan has 7 consecutive decisions iirc.. so him finishing Merab seems a big ask.


Could Yan pull it off?
... maybe.

Only way I see him winning is if merab is injured
I'm a gambling man and in no universe should any BW be a 4:1 favorite against Petr Yan.

Yes, Merab has perfected his style and based on his previous domination of Yan has a clear base style advantage/clearer path to victory if implementing the correct tactics and strategy.

But Merab also hasn't looked the same since the first fight against Yan - his output has dropped significantly in terms of takedown attempts and strike attempts. Against Yan he attempted 49 takedowns and threw 338 strikes. Against Umar he attempted 30 takedowns and threw 237 strikes, against Sandhagen he attempted 37 takedowns and threw 257 strikes. That means his output has consistently dropped by a third, and I don't think it's an outlier.

Against Yan he was fighting him in the smaller cage (25 foot vs. 30 foot actually means 30% smaller cage) with Yan having an injured right arm (barely threw his power hand the entire fight). Basically Yan got put in a box with less room to move and less ability to defend himself and Merab just got the early momentum and never let go. There is an argument to be made that Merab's approach against Yan in the first fight will not work nearly as well in the larger cage, it takes way more energy and work to to push someone into the cage and trap them.

And while Yan isn't a one-hitter quitter type fighter, there really aren't many that BW that are, even the guys most known for it (Suga/Yadong) typically have to build volume/attrition to kill guys later once they start fighting elite opposition. Yan has hurt every fighter he has ever fought standing except for Merab in the first fight when he couldn't use his power side and ended up gassed from defending too much early (he also ate some crippling low-kicks surprisingly, very nice attacks early from Merab caught him off guard).

It's not like Yan is incapable of adjusting his style - earlier in his UFC career he was much more a pressure-fighter, but once he got into 5 round title fights he kind of adjusted to being patient early on the basis that he could afford to give away initiative early to make reads later that would pay bigger dividends (i.e. lose by a little early to win by a lot late).

At minimum I see this being a way closer fight than the first one, even if Merab wins he'll have to go through a lot more to get it done. I'm fascinated for one to see how all the intangibles will come into play.
 
I'm a gambling man and in no universe should any BW be a 4:1 favorite against Petr Yan.

Yes, Merab has perfected his style and based on his previous domination of Yan has a clear base style advantage/clearer path to victory if implementing the correct tactics and strategy.

But Merab also hasn't looked the same since the first fight against Yan - his output has dropped significantly in terms of takedown attempts and strike attempts. Against Yan he attempted 49 takedowns and threw 338 strikes. Against Umar he attempted 30 takedowns and threw 237 strikes, against Sandhagen he attempted 37 takedowns and threw 257 strikes. That means his output has consistently dropped by a third, and I don't think it's an outlier.

Against Yan he was fighting him in the smaller cage (25 foot vs. 30 foot actually means 30% smaller cage) with Yan having an injured right arm (barely threw his power hand the entire fight). Basically Yan got put in a box with less room to move and less ability to defend himself and Merab just got the early momentum and never let go. There is an argument to be made that Merab's approach against Yan in the first fight will not work nearly as well in the larger cage, it takes way more energy and work to to push someone into the cage and trap them.

And while Yan isn't a one-hitter quitter type fighter, there really aren't many that BW that are, even the guys most known for it (Suga/Yadong) typically have to build volume/attrition to kill guys later once they start fighting elite opposition. Yan has hurt every fighter he has ever fought standing except for Merab in the first fight when he couldn't use his power side and ended up gassed from defending too much early (he also ate some crippling low-kicks surprisingly, very nice attacks early from Merab caught him off guard).

It's not like Yan is incapable of adjusting his style - earlier in his UFC career he was much more a pressure-fighter, but once he got into 5 round title fights he kind of adjusted to being patient early on the basis that he could afford to give away initiative early to make reads later that would pay bigger dividends (i.e. lose by a little early to win by a lot late).

At minimum I see this being a way closer fight than the first one, even if Merab wins he'll have to go through a lot more to get it done. I'm fascinated for one to see how all the intangibles will come into play.
Very cool data.

If I were to gamble... I would be looking to identify situations where the odds were not an accurate representation of the likely outcome, perhaps due to sentimental reasons or other bias.

A VERY interesting aspect of this fight, that if you were looking to justify why Yan could win... imo... this would be a big clue.


This is Merabs 4th title fight this year. 4th camp. 4th weight cut

He is on a short turnaround and rumored to have had a tough weight cut. 63 days between title fights is a crazy short turnaround for a champ in this era.
Average is about 9 months, this is 2.

All of that bodes poorly for a man whose success is dependent on extremely high, off the bell curve, levels of stamina and output.
 
Perception, legacy, popularity, relevancy.

Something about two men fighting it out in an octagon somehow means these can all change an incredible amount from just one fight.


Merab is currently easily the bantamweight goat. What happens when Yan beats him, then goes on to beat O Malley and a top contender.

Mark my words. I put it here now. In a years time we will be talking about Yan as the BW goat.
Noone with losses to Sterling an Omalley can be Goat
 
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