AEW AEW XLIV: Same Old Song and Dance

[Ozymandias]

A proposal for All Out.

Swerve and Lee have no obvious direction for a tag title defense on the show. FTR is in a 6 man, Bucks most likely gonna be in the trios finals. Lucha Bros, Dark Order are also in the tournament. Acclaimed is feuding with Ass Boys. Private Party just lost.

So, since the show is on PPV and Warner can't say shit why not bring DEM BOYZ in to fight Swerve and Lee? It's a fun match up for sure. Or open the Forbidden Door and bring someone else in.

Guerrillas of Destiny
Good Brothers
Motor City Machine Guns

Perfect opportunity.

 

[Based God]

However, he is also waaay better at being a pro wrestler than all others involved.

Guy is an unathletic botch machine.

These are his last two matches. This is how he performed when he got the PPV main event to win the World Championship followed by his one and only match so far as World Champion. <45>

Bonus clip, him trying to do flippy shit with Penta a few months ago <Lmaoo>

 

[The Clinch]

Guy is an unathletic botch machine.

These are his last two matches. This is how he performed when he got the PPV main event to win the World Championship followed by his one and only match so far as World Champion. <45>

Bonus clip, him trying to do flippy shit with Penta a few months ago <Lmaoo>

 

[Stargazer Rex]

Guy is an unathletic botch machine.

These are his last two matches. This is how he performed when he got the PPV main event to win the World Championship followed by his one and only match so far as World Champion. <45>

Bonus clip, him trying to do flippy shit with Penta a few months ago <Lmaoo>

He can have good matches, but yeah, his terrible athleticism is a big reason why I've never been a huge fan. He was uncoordinated in his WWE run too.

 

[Sycho Sid]

Guy is an unathletic botch machine.

These are his last two matches. This is how he performed when he got the PPV main event to win the World Championship followed by his one and only match so far as World Champion. <45>

Bonus clip, him trying to do flippy shit with Penta a few months ago <Lmaoo>

You mean when he had his fucked up foot that kept him out for months?

 

[luckyshot]

Guy is an unathletic botch machine.

These are his last two matches. This is how he performed when he got the PPV main event to win the World Championship followed by his one and only match so far as World Champion. <45>

Bonus clip, him trying to do flippy shit with Penta a few months ago <Lmaoo>

Oh, sorry. You thought I said best gymnast.

I said best professional wrestler. You know, the art of getting people to give a shit.

 

[TennBJJ]

Guy is an unathletic botch machine.

These are his last two matches. This is how he performed when he got the PPV main event to win the World Championship followed by his one and only match so far as World Champion. <45>

Bonus clip, him trying to do flippy shit with Penta a few months ago <Lmaoo>

Tom Magee fan confirmed

 

[Small Town Andrew]

That sling shot thing Punk tried in the Adam Paige match was pathetic. No idea why he would attempt it over and over again. Lol

 

[Based God]

You mean when he had his fucked up foot that kept him out for months?

His foot got fucked up during that Gunn Club match.

His foot definitely wasn't fucked up during his PPV main event 4 days earlier and every other match for the last year when he was an unathletic botch machine.

 

[Based God]

Oh, sorry. You thought I said best gymnast.

I said best professional wrestler. You know, the art of getting people to give a shit.

Being a professional wrestler is more than being a good promo.

Orange Cassidy makes people give a shit, and I'm pretty sure I've seen you have meltdowns about him before on these very forums.

 

[luckyshot]

Being a professional wrestler is more than being a good promo.

Orange Cassidy makes people give a shit, and I'm pretty sure I've seen you have meltdowns about him before on these very forums.

You really just said Orange Cassidy?

 

[GoldenAzazel]

You go ahead and let me know when fans spend five years chanting "ORANGE CASSIDY! ORANGE CASSIDY!" when he isn't in the company anymore.

Check out how many views Punk got on those videos and then look at what the highest viewed videos on AEWs YouTube are.

 

[luckyshot]

Check out how many views Punk got on those videos and then look at what the highest viewed videos on AEWs YouTube are.

So, based on youtube views, you are arguing that Orange Cassidy "makes people give a shit" in the same way CM Punk does?



I just won't believe my lying eyes about those buildings full of rabid fans screaming CM Punk's name.

Like I said, you let me know when fans spend five years chanting "ORANGE CASSIDY!" after he leaves a company.

 

[Based God]

So now chanting makes someone the best professional wrestler?

I'm also pretty sure I've seen this guy have meltdowns about numerous wrestlers that get chants <Lmaoo>

 

[GoldenAzazel]

So, based on youtube views, you are arguing that Orange Cassidy "makes people give a shit" in the same way CM Punk does?



I just won't believe my lying eyes about those buildings full of rabid fans screaming CM Punk's name.

Like I said, you let me know when fans spend five years chanting "ORANGE CASSIDY!" after he leaves a company.

YouTube views are just one metric, sure. But Orange Cassidy gets massive reactions from crowds too. You'd think those rabid fans chanting his name would mean his long awaited return wouldn't get 30m less views than Orange Cassidy, but apparently not.

Not saying OC is better than Punk, but I'm agreeing with Based that you're inconsistent with your standards

 

[RollSonnenRoll]

Guy is an unathletic botch machine.

These are his last two matches. This is how he performed when he got the PPV main event to win the World Championship followed by his one and only match so far as World Champion. <45>

Bonus clip, him trying to do flippy shit with Penta a few months ago <Lmaoo>

He can have good matches, but yeah, his terrible athleticism is a big reason why I've never been a huge fan. He was uncoordinated in his WWE run too.

That’s why #Sanitarium was his best work and 2021’s MOTY. Grounded, dirty and felt like a fight. That’s what he needs to be.

 

[GoldenAzazel]

That’s why #Sanitarium was his best work and 2021’s MOTY. Grounded, dirty and felt like a fight. That’s what he needs to be.

Kingston was right as always!

 

[Based God]

That’s why #Sanitarium was his best work and 2021’s MOTY. Grounded, dirty and felt like a fight. That’s what he needs to be.

That's how I enjoyed him. His match with Kingston and the dog collar match with MJF were gold.

Guy just won't accept the fact that he's unathletic and tries way too much in a lot of his other matches and it just looks like shit.

 

[luckyshot]

YouTube views are just one metric, sure. But Orange Cassidy gets massive reactions from crowds too. You'd think those rabid fans chanting his name would mean his long awaited return wouldn't get 30m less views than Orange Cassidy, but apparently not.

Not saying OC is better than Punk, but I'm agreeing with Based that you're inconsistent with your standards

The day after CM Punk's AEW return there were like A HUNDRED videos of it up on YouTube. Most of them have since been taken down due to copyright.

There are multiple videos up of ALL CM Punk's iconic moments. How many YouTube clips contained segments of or discussion about the "pipe bomb"? Literally THOUSANDS.

If you could take all the views of all those videos and add them up they would absolutely dwarf the views of any Orange Cassidy segment... OC's views don't get diluted in nearly the same way as Punk's.

You are accusing me of inconsistent standards, but really, these kind of myopic arguments are what happens when some one cherry picks one piece of data to support a pre-determined conclusion.

Use some fucking common sense: CM Punk's return spiked TV viewership 53% and sold out the United Center. If you think OC has ever done anything even approaching that level of "impact," you are delusional. I don't know what else to call it.

(Also, anecdotal, but when I went to an AEW show in Bridgeport, CT, I saw literally hundreds of CM Punk t-shirts. If it was a sport, you would have thought it was a CM Punk home game. I probably saw someone wearing an OC t-shirt, but I definitely didn't notice. I'm pretty sure anyone who has been to an AEW event since Punk's return and is willing to be honest about it will report a similar experience.)

 

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