Adesanya Looked Good (and I am not a Fan)

[Streeter]

He tried to be like Pereria n lost because of it. He should of taken time after poke he didn't an paid for it.

 

[Cartiac]

I am a fan of Israel and I don't think he looked good at all at any time in that fight. He was completely flat footed from the beginning, none of the constant foot movement he always had before that made him so hard to find. Izzy is without a doubt one of the very best fighters in UFC history but I think it is pretty clear he has very little chance of being in a title fight again unless there is some kind of last minute replacement opportunity. Otherwise I don't think it makes much sense for him to keep fighting for way less money than he was getting as champion and taking way more damage to his mental and physical heath, but Israel Adesanya is a fighter and I am not so I don't expect him to stop fighting any time soon.

 

[Edward Henry Berg]

He did look good. Showed great td defence, but that chin ain’t the same.

Adesanya was never a "durable" fighter -- he was always an elusive "will o' the wisp" AVOIDER of trench warfare.

At this stage, he simply can't "avoid" actually fighting anymore — and he is not built to take / exchange high-level damage.

 

[13Seconds]

I had to rewatch both sequences but I'm sure he got caught similarly as in the SStrickland fight, trying to counter with a hook, he isn't as fast and his reflexes aren't as good as they used to be, happens with that style sadly, its how we get Anderson getting touched by fucking Bisping.

Some people say USADA helped out with that one

 

[13Seconds]

I think Izzy is cooked tbh. He's just not the same.

Might sound harsh but I wont miss him.

 

[Ibm]

He looked fantastic, it just looks like his desire to look good is costing him. He should just play cautious and stick and move. Im 150% certain he would have schooled the guys he lost to in sparring.

 

[CrimsonFan]

Sorry, retard,

That's not nice

 

[Rataria]

Hes wasnt as adept at manifestation and Law of Assumption as he should have been

 

[DougieJones]

The problem with Izzy is, now that his chin is getting cracked semi-regularly and he clearly isn't able to take and shrug off the same punches he could during his title run, he doesn't have anything to fall back on...

Take, for example, Do Bronx... when he gets cracked he can just go to the ground and recover because 95% of fighters either won't follow or he is better than at grapping...

Izzy can't do that, so what's his plan b if he starts getting lit up, or takes a good shot and needs some time to recover?

 

[Edward Henry Berg]

The problem with Izzy is, now that his chin is getting cracked semi-regularly and he clearly isn't able to take and shrug off the same punches he could during his title run, he doesn't have anything to fall back on...

Take, for example, Do Bronx... when he gets cracked he can just go to the ground and recover because 95% of fighters either won't follow or he is better than at grapping...

Izzy can't do that, so what's his plan b if he starts getting lit up, or takes a good shot and needs some time to recover?

Izzy was never a tough / durable fighter, but a fast / reflexive fighter.

Losing his extreme speed, as he ages, he will find himself getting smacked in the mouth more often — and clearly he doesn't have the physical fortitude to deal with this.

It will get worse as time goes on.

That said, this fight was a perfect example of what I'm talking about.

Skill-wise, speed-wise (even diminished), Izzy was significantly better than Imavov, but he's not tough enough man to exchange blows with him.

Hence the downfall.

 

[Edward Henry Berg]

TS is Drega's alternate account.

In your idiotic daydreams.

I despise Izzy, and I'm glad he lost, but he did mostly good work in this fight.

Adesanya is not "totally washed"; however, his diminishing speed + lack of durability make him more-and-more ORDINARY as time marches on.

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[Snubnoze707]

Getting knocked out 30 seconds into round 2 isn't looking good, LOL!

 

[Bowel-forged Stool]

KO face looks good on Izzy

 

[7 others]

Not an Izzy fan due to his cringey and petty shit but I do feel his skills and speed are on point before the KO

I feel its his reflexes, he switched stance too close and it might also be the eye poke but he DID insist to pull a Poatan and got ktfo after that

 

[SpamuraiSensei]

Sorry, retard, Izzy isn't "washed" ... he's just slipped a little.

The truth is, in Izzy's ABSOLUTE PRIME, he was still A TITLE FAILURE in Glory Kickboxing. Didn't have what it takes.

Izzy only enjoyed "a run" in the UFC, because the talent pool IS SO SHALLOW.

May Izzy continue to enjoy Karma's boot-in-the-ass, for the rest of his life, until he is sitting in a bar, telling some whore, "I beat that guy once," watching Alex Pereira's success.

No one, in MMA history, deserves public humiliation more than Israel Adesanya. (Okay, one: Conor McGregor. And it's just as satisfying watching this loudmouth punk continue to flounder in failure, after his braggadocio )

Lets see your fight wiki champ

 

[Koro_11]

Just came back from a 5-day trip to Vegas.

Missed the fight (live), but watched Adesanya x Imavov after-the-fact.

Don't know why everybody thinks Adesanya is "washed." He actually look good against Imavov, and was winning, on almost every level, "until he wasn't":

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The simple fact is, Adesanya he got caught by a younger, (likely) hungrier fighter.
The other truth is Imavov = a tough guy, with nerves of steel, and a heavy punch.

If you actually watch the fight, Adesanya was in control almost the entire time.
Even when Adesanya got caught by an Imavov uppercut @ 1:14 of the 1st Round, Adesanya responded by a left-right uppercut against the cage, both of which clipped Imovev, but they had no effect.

At the end of the day, I concur with many that Adesanya's reflexes may be on the decline, but his skillset is not.

Adesanya looked good in there, was (mostly) in control, even handled the grappling — and controlled-back — but he got caught.

If I saw any weakness in Adesanya, it was perhaps in his reflexes, but also (and always) trying to "pose for the crowd" ... acting like a "model" instead of a fighter.

At the end of the day, Imavov was simply the tougher man, who could take what Adesanya threw, while Adesanya does not have that same level of actual toughness.

Imavov simply caught Adesanya, and finished him, despite being behind on virtually all of the other stats.

Adesanya does NOT need "to retire" ... what he needs to do is stop posing ... let go of his ego ... and stay alert.

He does NOT have Pereira's punch to fall back on, or his technical tightness.

Adesanya relies on speed and reflexes. If those are waning, he needs to be more alert and defensively sound.

Historically, big punchers will last longer in the rankings (as Pereira has proven), while "fast" but feather-fisted fighters, spiral down the drain more quickly (as Izzy's latest record is proving).

That said, is he still has plenty to offer, but he needs to "get over himself", gain some humility, if that's even possible for him.

But I think he actually looked good in his last fight — until he didn't.

Fast, athletic fighters — when that's all they have to offer (like Roy Jones Jr.) — always go down hard, and embarrassingly.

Especially, when their reflexes were basically all they had.

No one thinks he's "washed" as a UFC fighter.

But he's obviously finished as a serious title challenger.

People have figured him out and he lost his confidence, he can still get a big win or two, but he's never gonna go on any serious win streak against the elite in the division.

He's not beating Strickland, he's losing to Dricus more often than not, and Chimaev eats him alive... and Imavov, well you saw it.

 

[prime_lobov]

Sorry but the old “he was winning until he lost” excuse isn’t valid. He looked awful and got KO’d by a guy who wasn’t on his level 5 years ago. Izzy is simply no longer a top level fighter.

 

[Big Tuppy Hole]

Just came back from a 5-day trip to Vegas.

Missed the fight (live), but watched Adesanya x Imavov after-the-fact.

Don't know why everybody thinks Adesanya is "washed." He actually look good against Imavov, and was winning, on almost every level, "until he wasn't":

View attachment 1081518

Stats | UFC

The simple fact is, Adesanya he got caught by a younger, (likely) hungrier fighter.
The other truth is Imavov = a tough guy, with nerves of steel, and a heavy punch.

If you actually watch the fight, Adesanya was in control almost the entire time.
Even when Adesanya got caught by an Imavov uppercut @ 1:14 of the 1st Round, Adesanya responded by a left-right uppercut against the cage, both of which clipped Imovev, but they had no effect.

At the end of the day, I concur with many that Adesanya's reflexes may be on the decline, but his skillset is not.

Adesanya looked good in there, was (mostly) in control, even handled the grappling — and controlled-back — but he got caught.

If I saw any weakness in Adesanya, it was perhaps in his reflexes, but also (and always) trying to "pose for the crowd" ... acting like a "model" instead of a fighter.

At the end of the day, Imavov was simply the tougher man, who could take what Adesanya threw, while Adesanya does not have that same level of actual toughness.

Imavov simply caught Adesanya, and finished him, despite being behind on virtually all of the other stats.

Adesanya does NOT need "to retire" ... what he needs to do is stop posing ... let go of his ego ... and stay alert.

He does NOT have Pereira's punch to fall back on, or his technical tightness.

Adesanya relies on speed and reflexes. If those are waning, he needs to be more alert and defensively sound.

Historically, big punchers will last longer in the rankings (as Pereira has proven), while "fast" but feather-fisted fighters, spiral down the drain more quickly (as Izzy's latest record is proving).

That said, is he still has plenty to offer, but he needs to "get over himself", gain some humility, if that's even possible for him.

But I think he actually looked good in his last fight — until he didn't.

Fast, athletic fighters — when that's all they have to offer (like Roy Jones Jr.) — always go down hard, and embarrassingly.

Especially, when their reflexes were basically all they had.

He was finished in under a rnd and a half. Looking good doesn't mean much.

 

[Big Tuppy Hole]

Izzy was never a tough / durable fighter, but a fast / reflexive fighter.

Losing his extreme speed, as he ages, he will find himself getting smacked in the mouth more often — and clearly he doesn't have the physical fortitude to deal with this.

It will get worse as time goes on.

That said, this fight was a perfect example of what I'm talking about.

Skill-wise, speed-wise (even diminished), Izzy was significantly better than Imavov, but he's not tough enough man to exchange blows with him.

Hence the downfall.

Izzy showed his toughness against Kelvin he gutted out and out toughed a cinder block head mexican in the 5th rnd.

 

[taugrim]

He should just play cautious and stick and move.

I re-watched the fight.

This was the biggest thing I noticed - a lack of caution and disciplined defense, especially considering it was a 5 rounder. Izzy was too willing to brawl and trade.

He didn't look meaningfully slower. Just either reckless, impatient, or arrogant.