Aajonus Vonderplanitz's Raw Primal Diet

[stewy37]

And isn't denaturing protein a good thing since it makes it a lot easier for our bodies to digest?

 

[ooitzoo]

I think my favorite counter-argument to the "we're the only species that does ___" is something along the lines of "Oh yeah? We're the only species that has a fucking space shuttle."

That's exactly right; there is a reason why we've been to the moon and able to clone other life while the cheetah is nearing extinction.

 

[Cratos]

You just seem to be regurgitating information into this thread.

You've lied to us twice:

-You said we live to half our life expectancies. So, assuming you did everything 100% perfect in your life, you should live to be 160-200 years old? Lord of the Rings, this is not. You seem to be not only taking what you've read at face value, without critically and objectively analyzing it for yourself, but also as the only good method to eat/live.

-You claim to bench 335 at 160 lbs. Is that a half rep, with "a little help" from your spotter?

 

[Urban]

Case and point, heat denatures nutrients.

• At 110 degrees F, two of the 8 essential amino acids found in meat products, tryptophan and lysine, are destroyed.

Never heard of this. Particularly strange given the link everyone draws between turkey, tryptophan and the itis. and since MOST americans don't get shit for vegetation in their diets, you'd think that we were HORRIBLY deficient in these two essential amino acids... and we're not. weird since since almost everyone eats cooked food.

1. proteins coagulate (change from a liquid to a thickened or solid state)
2. high temperatures denature protein molecular structure, leading to deficiency of some essential amino acids (destroys structure of protein)

1. 
   Denaturing protein is not inherently bad and can often improve its bioavailability.
   
   

   [*]carbohydrates caramelize (prevents our bodies from using them as energy sources; ash-like toxins)

   Ash-like? that kind of pyrolization takes much more than my medium well steak. further, i don't reccomend most people eat much sugar and starch based food prone to this kind of degradation from heat. Potatoes (french fries in particular), sugars, grains, etc. all prone to the kind of damage you're describing... none are recommended around here, and the ones that are, aren't used in dishes that would be prone to browning. your author is making a mountain out of a molehill.
   
   

   [*]overly heated fats generate numerous carcinogens including acrolein, nitrosamines, hydrocarbons, and benzopyrene (one of the most potent cancer-causing agents known)

   if you use saturated fats for cooking you rarely hit the smoke point, which is where most of these chemicals are formed. Further, that smoke contains the bulk of them, not the oil. how much do I really have to worry about this if I cook with lard and clarified butter? not much.
   
   

   [*]natural fibers break down

   A good thing, since eating raw hearty greens (as I mentioned earlier) does not provide bio-available nutrients since they're all locked away inside cell walls.
   

   [*]cellulose is completely changed from its natural condition: it loses its ability to sweep the alimentary canal clean

   Blatantly untrue.
   
   

   [*]30% to 50% of vitamins and minerals are destroyed

   Depending on how you cook things. Worse case scenario you're eating everything well done. and THAT is where your 30-50% figure comes from. If you're only lightly cooking your veggies, and eating your meat rare to medium-rare, you're probably not losing much.
   
   

   [*]100% of enzymes are damaged, the body's enzyme potential is depleted which drains energy needed to maintain and repair tissue and organ systems, thereby shortening the life span.

   Do you know what enzymes are? Do you know what other environments break them down?
   
   

   [*]When proteins are subjected to high heat during cooking, enzyme resistant linkages are formed between the amino acid chains. The body cannot separate these amino acids. What the body cannot use, it must eliminate. Cooked proteins become a source of toxicity: dead organic waste material acted upon and elaborated by bacterial flora.

   qualify high heat. cause by and large you've gone most of this post saying high heat destroys things and all of a sudden it's strengthing molecular bonds?
   
   
   

   Of all the million species on earth that thrive on raw food, we're the only ones that apply heat to ours

   of the millions of species on earth we're also the only ones to wear clothing, practice medicine, understand the innevitability of our own demise, create weapons, harness nuclear power, perform open heart surgery, understand quantum mechanics, create art, etc. should we also stop all those things?
   
   

   On average, we die at or below half of our potential life span due to chronic illnesses, largely related to our diet and lifestyle.

   How closely do you think wild animals get to their potential lifespan?
   
   

   Domesticated pets also suffer from human-like chronic ailments (cancer, arthritis, and other degenerative diseases) due to food denatured by heat (cooked, processed, packaged).

   Truth be told I feed my dog raw liver every day. she loves it, but it tears up my digestive tract and gives me mudbutt. It's organic chicken livers, and I freeze them for two weeks before consumption, so according to all the literature, I've done everything right. But fact is, they still tear me up. not her though, she's fine.
   
   I once bought her a rawhide hoof. And within an hour it disappeared. I thought at the time that she must have eaten it, but over the next few weeks more and more flies began appearing at my home. a month after its introduction to my dog, I her chewing on it, rotten, smelling like 10 kinds of hell, and covered in flies. but there she was going to town, so I figured I'd let her have her fun then take it away when she loses interest. an hour later I threw it away, mostly eaten.
   
   my dog is fine. I, however, would have been FUCKED UP if I tried to eat that hoof.
   
   maybe comparing our diets to those of domesticated animals is a stupid idea.

 

[Beast4rmDaEast]

More people die from pharmaceutical hog-wash then from parasites or bacteria. The reason why these statistics are present are because these people have highly toxic bodies and impaired immune systems.

All Bacteria, unless manmade, and parasites are GOOD.
Think of them as the janitors in our body. They help detoxify dead, and toxic matter within our body. If your body is toxic, you'll experience the side-effects. If your body isn't toxic, your body will get rid of them eventually. More chances then not, you probably already have parasites in your body right now!

When I was first starting, my body was highly toxic because of my previous diet and I had to depend on natural remedies to keep the parasites at bay when I was experiencing side-effects. I used a 1/2 thumb portion of Ginger, a clove of Garlic, and a spicey pepper - habanero. Two months later, I no longer have to depend on these remedies because of my bodies rather low toxicity level.

 

[Cratos]

More people die from pharmaceutical hog-wash then from parasites or bacteria. The reason why these statistics are present are because these people have highly toxic bodies and impaired immune systems.

All Bacteria, unless manmade, and parasites are GOOD.
Think of them as the janitors in our body. They help detoxify dead, and toxic matter within our body. If your body is toxic, you'll experience the side-effects. If your body isn't toxic, your body will get rid of them eventually. More chances then not, you probably already have parasites in your body right now!

When I was first starting, my body was highly toxic because of my previous diet and I had to depend on natural remedies to keep the parasites at bay when I was experiencing side-effects. I used a 1/2 thumb portion of Ginger, a clove of Garlic, and a spicey pepper - habanero. Two months later, I no longer have to depend on these remedies because of my bodies rather low toxicity level.

What...the...fuck.

I'm bowing out of this one. This is just silly

Also: Beast4rmDaEast = Beast form the east. Makes no sense.

 

[Urban]

and what is a manmade bacteria?

 

[ooitzoo]

Again, how do you define "toxicity" in the human body?

You understand that parasites eat the nutrients present in your intestines...that means FOOD THAT YOU WOULD OTHERWISE ABSORB IS EATEN BY THE PARASITE WHICH THEN PUTS WASTE BACK INTO YOUR INTESTINES

Bacteria is a much longer explanation but GENERALLY BACTERIA IS NOT GOOD FOR YOU

EDIT: And no, you should NOT already have parasites in your body. If you did you'd know and you wouldn't feel very well.

 

[Beast4rmDaEast]

and what is a manmade bacteria?

Anything grown in a laboratory, out of it's natural environment.

If you're interested in a detailed description, listen to the process from the man himself. Hes the guest, not the host.

All answers are addressed.

http://www.oneradionetwork2.com/mp3...s_raw_food_meat_primal_diet_oct_15_09_one.mp3

http://www.oneradionetwork2.com/mp3...s_raw_food_meat_primal_diet_oct_15_09_two.mp3

 

[ooitzoo]

Anything grown in a laboratory, out of it's natural environment.

If you're interested in a detailed description, listen to the process from the man himself. Hes the guest, not the host.

http://www.oneradionetwork2.com/mp3...s_raw_food_meat_primal_diet_oct_15_09_one.mp3

And how praytell does this "man-made" bacteria enter the food supply (and then your system)?:icon_neut

 

[Beast4rmDaEast]

And how praytell does this "man-made" bacteria enter the food supply (and then your system)?:icon_neut

It doesn't. Listen to the audio it'll explain all.

 

[Urban]

ok, I've entertained this nuttiness enough.