A Staggering Statistic about Age in MMA.

mkt said:
I've addressed that elsewhere and never made the same precise claims for boxing. With over 100 years of history, you're going to have a few anomalies. My precise claim was about 155 and below in
MMA.
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i wasn't trying to debate your point. i was genuinely wondering what age he was? because he could still fall outside of the 27-35 age range. but yeah, obviously there's outliers in both sports. like i could see Mighty Mouse being a champion at his age of 36.
 
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Eat My Teep said:
Your opening sentence was very difficult for me to decipher. Not sure if it's me or you. So
@ 170 lbs and below
for fighters age 35 and older
in title fights

those fighters are 2-28?
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Was hard for me too, but yes an interesting stat
 
HuskySamoan said:
I just heard Luke Thomas claim that there's been 30 times in UFC history where a fighter age 35 or older at 170lbs or lower, so from Welterweight to Flyweight fought in a title bout and do you know what the win/loss record is for them apparently? 2 out of 30, that's right, they lost 28 out of 30 times. I think MMA fans don't understand what a fighters prime is or how significant age is. I hear so often "he's only 36" or that a 30 year old is "young" with "plenty of time", no guys, not really.

So here's a fun fact to check. I haven't done the leg work to confirm it but it sounds right, when I compiled the data of every champions age when they won the title and lost the title and created averages...The highest average for the age of a champion when losing the title of any division was Heavyweight and it was roughly 34 years old. The claim that "the heavier weight divisions age slower" I wholeheartedly agree with but I think people fail to mention another huge driving factor why that is, it's because those divisions are incredibly shallow compared to 170lbs and lower.

Credit to Alexander Volkara France of Twitter.

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Think about it - a fighter who's been in the game for 15 years has seen it all. They've been through every type of training, every type of fight, every type of injury. They know their body better than anyone else, and they know how to train smarter, not harder. So even if they're in their 40s or 50s, they can still hang with the young guns and dominate in the Octagon.

Now, I know what you're thinking - "But what about all those stats about fighters losing after a certain age?" Well, let me tell you, those stats are full of sh*t. They don't take into account the fighters who defy the odds and keep on winning well into their golden years. And trust me, there's plenty of those fighters out there.

So next time you hear someone talking about how a fighter is "too old" or "past their prime," just remember - age is just a state of mind, and these fighters are living proof that you're never too old to kick some ass in the Octagon.
 
jjoaogbs said:
Think about it - a fighter who's been in the game for 15 years has seen it all. They've been through every type of training, every type of fight, every type of injury. They know their body better than anyone else, and they know how to train smarter, not harder. So even if they're in their 40s or 50s, they can still hang with the young guns and dominate in the Octagon.

Now, I know what you're thinking - "But what about all those stats about fighters losing after a certain age?" Well, let me tell you, those stats are full of sh*t. They don't take into account the fighters who defy the odds and keep on winning well into their golden years. And trust me, there's plenty of those fighters out there.

So next time you hear someone talking about how a fighter is "too old" or "past their prime," just remember - age is just a state of mind, and these fighters are living proof that you're never too old to kick some ass in the Octagon.
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you sound like someone who is old and is trying to cope
 
HuskySamoan said:
You might be able to beat a small or feminine 25 year old if you strike first, a woman for sure.
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except i'm not 50, i'm 38. i wouldn't beat any of them because i don't fight. being quite large and looking like a movie villain's henchman has some benefits.
 
IloveTHIS said:
You could look at it that way. Or you could look at is as Khabib throwing away a GREAT chance at cementing himself as the one true undisputed GOAT by retiring too soon. He could have very likely dominated in another 5 or so defenses in 2 years and there would really be no argument against his ATG #1 GOAT
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Ya but clearly Khabib dosent care about that the way Jones does for example. I think he did it more for his father than anything. Money didnt seem that motivating either. He wanted to be champ for his dad and that was accomplished.
kenetics said:
It also help that the first 15 guys he fought were literally bums. So he didn't lose much physically against them lol
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I dont know the region he fought in has a long tradition of combat sports. There is a reason a lot of the guys that come from that part of the world do well in the UFC and its not like they acquired the skills over here.
 
Pancake Sprawl said:
except i'm not 50, i'm 38. i wouldn't beat any of them because i don't fight. being quite large and looking like a movie villain's henchman has some benefits.
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Jesus, 38? What was it like going to theaters when the first star wars movie came out?
 
HuskySamoan said:
I just heard Luke Thomas claim that there's been 30 times in UFC history where a fighter age 35 or older at 170lbs or lower, so from Welterweight to Flyweight fought in a title bout and do you know what the win/loss record is for them apparently? 2 out of 30, that's right, they lost 28 out of 30 times. I think MMA fans don't understand what a fighters prime is or how significant age is. I hear so often "he's only 36" or that a 30 year old is "young" with "plenty of time", no guys, not really.

So here's a fun fact to check. I haven't done the leg work to confirm it but it sounds right, when I compiled the data of every champions age when they won the title and lost the title and created averages...The highest average for the age of a champion when losing the title of any division was Heavyweight and it was roughly 34 years old. The claim that "the heavier weight divisions age slower" I wholeheartedly agree with but I think people fail to mention another huge driving factor why that is, it's because those divisions are incredibly shallow compared to 170lbs and lower.

Credit to Alexander Volkara France of Twitter.

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I did stats on age awhile back:

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https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/age-statistics-by-division-2013-vs-2018.3728891/
 
Eat My Teep said:
Your opening sentence was very difficult for me to decipher. Not sure if it's me or you. So
@ 170 lbs and below
for fighters age 35 and older
in title fights

those fighters are 2-28?
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Fighters aged 35 or older are 2-28 at 170lbs and below in title fights. Sheesh.
“Very difficult “
It’s not the code of Hammurabi ffs.
 
Pancake Sprawl said:
i wasn't trying to debate your point. i was genuinely wondering what age he was? because he could still fall outside of the 27-35 age range. but yeah, obviously there's outliers in both sports. like i could see Mighty Mouse being a champion at his age of 36.
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Mayweather was 38 for his last official title defense (the fight before Conor). His defensive style certainly helped, including the lack of damage he took. As I mentioned, if he were say, 25 years old in 1980, I'm certain he wouldn't have gone undefeated in the era of Sugar Ray Leonard, Tommy Hearns, Duran, Wilfred Benítez, Aaron Pryor, etc. Nor would he have had so little damage and been able to fight so well near age 40. He fought in an era of relatively weak competition, and most of his best opponents (like Pacman) were past their best days when they fought.
 
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