A split decision went the wrong way? BOOOHOOO

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  1. kenCs

    kenCs Couches, couches, couches which one should I pick? Banned

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    Why cant people seem to understand about the simple concept of "CHAMP HAS TO BE BEATEN DECISIVELY!".

    Did Condit decisively beat Lawler for the belt? NO
    Did Hendricks decisively beat GSP for the belt? NO
    Did Gus decisively beat Jones for the belt? NO


    If a fight goes the distance and it was razor thin, I don't see why it doesnt go to the champ. They havent been beaten by the challenger.

    Anyone else agree?
     
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  2. BJ@LW&WW

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    first of all, double negative.

    secondly, that's not true.
     
  3. sirmorbach

    sirmorbach These violent delights have violent ends

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    Define "decisively". I can see your point, but it was pretty clear to me that Condit beat Lawler tho. Besides, who says the champion needs to be "decisively" beat? In order to win the title you need to win the fight, period.

    P.S. It was also clear to me that GSP beat Hendricks, but you'll call me biased.
     
  4. DorianGray

    DorianGray Black Belt

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    I agree somewhat, but the fact that the champ retains thr belt if there's a draw is enough for me. If the champ loses a close decision he still loses
     
  5. Tormund

    Tormund Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    That shouldn't be how it goes, the best man in the fight should walk away with the belt and just because the Condit fight was a split that doesn't make it any less of a robbery.
     
  6. MitMcl

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    "The champ has to be beaten decisively to lose their belt" is not a real rule.

    It's just an excuse people use to justify a bad decision.
     
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  7. kenCs

    kenCs Couches, couches, couches which one should I pick? Banned

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    For that double negative, I deserve this but you caught me before I could edit.
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  8. thedevious

    thedevious Everyone Is On PEDs Except Me

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    Oh yay, another "beat the champ to be the champ" thread

    It's an arcane idea that needs to die a swift and brutal death among fans who spout it constantly
     
  9. Leroy Jenkins

    Leroy Jenkins Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    Because "the champ has to be beaten decisively to lose their belt" is the dumbest thing ever.



    It's a fight...It's a sport, if you win by one inch, you should win regardless if it's against a champ.
     
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    Was this inspired by the Gilbert Melendez thread?
     
  11. Coolidge

    Coolidge Banned Banned

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    Why do idiots always make this argument? The fight should go to whoever the judges felt won the fight based on the criteria established in the rules. Not some bullshit unwritten code that favors the champion. If anything, you should expect MORE out of the champ, not less.
     
  12. danny23

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    Lawler didn't beat Hendricks decisively.
    Of course you'll choose to exclude that.
     
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    hehe your edit still has grammatical issues :D
     
  14. kenCs

    kenCs Couches, couches, couches which one should I pick? Banned

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    To trigger tards.
     
  15. SuperNerd

    SuperNerd Season Mode.

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    Because decisions exist.

    Remove them or use them.

    It would be stupid for Canada-Man 2.0 to get a to a title shot via 10 straight decisions, but can't win the title that way. It makes everything pointless.
     
  16. Failwani

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    I don't see that in the Unified Rules...
     
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    wilKO Green, White & Gold belt

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    That's a ridiculous outlook. In the NFL do you need to win by a big margin to beat the defending champions? No. In football? No. In any sport on planet earth? Hell no. You just need to win by any margin. Condit beat Lawler and Hendricks beat GSP by small margins according to most. Therefore they should have had their hand raised.

    Hate hate hate this mma philosophy of having to win by a big margin or else the champion should keep his belt. Where did it even come from?
     
  18. SuperNerd

    SuperNerd Season Mode.

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    Let me try that.

    Why can't you understand you must "SUCK MY DICK BEFORE YOU POST!!".

    I hope this works. Its been a dry 10 years since I signed up.
     
  19. Sgt Smith

    Sgt Smith Bassed God

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    May not be completely fair, but bias will often lean toward the belt holder in a close fight. I think that is difficult to eliminate in judging.
     
  20. jcow3

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    Holy shit this is the end.

    You've won sherdog, you've won, my faith in humans is ruined
     

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