A Fighter's Life After Retirement

[ajwbjj87]

Rich Franklin is a public speaker; Shane Carwin goes on reddit.

Both those guys had good careers before they became fighters also

 

[Deleted member 196663]

Many MMA fighters have retired or washed out from professional competition in their 30's. What do they do next? What options do they have to earn a living? How do they maintain the same standard of living?

Most fighters can't support themselves solely from MMA, so they probably just keep doing whatever day job they had.

 

[RJK]

You have gone full retard, I said they're suitable SOME options. Obviously, they might have to take a few years off for courses, training etc and who said anything about taking a career change with zero training ? I'm not saying they can walk into any job, it's just that some of their skills and knowledge is transferable with additional training and education.

Don't worry, those of us who are adults with real world experience understood exactly what you were saying and agreed.

 

[Verace]

1-datsik is one fucked up dude
2-its amazing how young arlovski resembles edmond tarverdian. and how the fuck did he lose to that guy?!
3-hermes franca is going to be a fucked up dude, if he isnt already after so many kos and punishment
3-the end of this video is amazing

 

[cheesus]

That is the point.

No it's not, it is about what they have the ability & options to do once they retire. You're the one insinuating guys like Roy Nelson, Bigfoot & Te Huna have nothing to offer the real world once they retire.

 

[Nuremberg]

No it's not,

Yes, it is.

 

[mcdowels]

Making money is tough for everyone

They take a downward hit because the risk was greater - bigger upside , bigger downside

The truly fucked are those with brain damage

But its similar to musicians or actors - if you make it - you are top of the world, if you dont you are in the dreggs

 

[cheesus]

Yes, it is.

Do you have trouble reading ? Read the original thread and my original post..at no point do either of us discuss the unfair treatment or low wages of fighters. It's a discussion about the possibilities they have once their fighting career has come to an end.

 

[Nuremberg]

Do you have trouble reading ? Read the original thread and my original post..at no point do either of us discuss the unfair treatment or low wages of fighters. It's a discussion about the possibilities they have once their fighting career has come to an end.

EXACTLY THE POINT.

 

[Rondas Pillow]

They sit around counting all that Reebok money.

 

[Strychnine]

Selling peanut butter.

Bang butter?

Not sure if I want any....

 

[cheesus]

EXACTLY THE POINT.

You're very confused, unfortunately I don't have enough time to draw a picture or a design excel spreadsheet diagram.

 

[TheBulletwithWings]

Coaching (Pedro Rizzo). Running a martial arts school/gym (Randy Couture). Commentating (Frank Shamrock, Bas Rutten). Desk job at the UFC (Matt Hughes). Podcasting (Schaub, Bas, many others). Do porn and beat the hell out of your girlfriend (Jonathan "War Machine" Kopenhaver). Pro wrestling. Acting. Stunt man/woman.

Nice layout

 

[Nuremberg]

You're very confused, unfortunately I don't have enough time to draw a picture or a design excel spreadsheet diagram.

Really? I could pass you some crayolas.

 

[mmafan559]

fighting for a living is a bad life choice

unless you are like, really good at it

manage a macdonalds

 

[Thepaintbucket]

Yeah.. no, a lot of these guys have limited skills outside of fighting. Very few will be analysts or make a living off pod casts. The majority will be teaching at a gym or trying to promote products through social media and attending conventions. For the very unlucky like Tim Sylvia, you will be working a regular job.

It's not all that bad tho. These guys got to do something they loved doing. So they have an incredible story to tell.

At the end of the day, money isn't everything.

 

[560ti]

I always read about "coaching", and such, but:

1) How few will actually be able to do so?
A fighting career, during which you are making enough money to live off, lasts like 12 years (probably less). After that, you'll have like 36 more years ahead of you, and each coach has who knows how many students.
It's the same for dancers: most balerinas cannot become a dance teacher.
Same for soccer players, and so on.
The math doesn't add up: otherwise Ponzi schemes would actually work.

The UFC seemed a bit different because it has been a new rapidly growing sport and because plenty of adult train without any aim to compete (how many guys in their 30s play american football, instead).
But soon it will be saturated.
The "fake jobs" that Liddell, Griffin and Hughes got, by the time the next generation retires, will still be taken.
Same for media: Cormier, Cruz, Stann, Florian, Evans, Bisping, Hardy.
But not as many from the next generation will get a spot.

2) even among the few who manage to make a living coaching, how much do they make on average?
He might not be a genius, but nonetheless it always strucks me how Brendaun Schaub says everytime: "he/you must hate money", in regards to someone trying to make it as a coach as a career path.

Yeah I hate the whole "oh they can just coach".

Most martial arts gyms the money is made in the kids program (charisma and variety are much more important than martial arts achievements/record).

and

If you live in a decent city then it might be hard to open a gym just off you name. For example I live in Dallas and its so saturated that MMA legend Guy Mezger and Muay Thai Lumpinee stadium champ Saekson Janjira have hardly any fighters (the gym saturation is so high that these two barely have anyone asking them to train them for fights). They make money on kids and casuals like most people

 

[cheesus]

Yeah.. no, a lot of these guys have limited skills outside of fighting. Very few will be analysts or make a living off pod casts. The majority will be teaching at a gym or trying to promote products through social media and attending conventions. For the very unlucky like Tim Sylvia, you will be working a regular job.

It's not all that bad tho. These guys got to do something they loved doing. So they have an incredible story to tell.

At the end of the day, money isn't everything.

From what I recall, Tim made somewhere like 700-800k from the Fedor fight alone. Far from what I'd consider unlucky, if the guy didn't decide to become a flat slob he still could of salvaged his career.

 

[Nuremberg]

Yeah I hate the whole "oh they can just coach".

Most martial arts gyms the money is made in the kids program (charisma and variety are much more important than martial arts achievements/record).

and

If you live in a decent city then it might be hard to open a gym just off you name. For example I live in Dallas and its so saturated that MMA legend Guy Mezger and Muay Thai Lumpinee stadium champ Saekson Janjira have hardly any fighters (the gym saturation is so high that these two barely have anyone asking them to train them for fights). They make money on kids and casuals like most people

Best post in this thread. Kudos.

 

[Nuremberg]

800k is not all for Tim.

Taxes.
Managers.
Coching.

That is WHY Tim is doing roofing or what ever manual labour job he is doing.