Crime 8x convicted criminal kills beloved 80 year old grandma dog walker and dog in carjacking and dog kidnapping

[Scheme]

He was previously convicted for vehicular homicide as well.

Horrific story and just another example of how lax on crime policies in progressive cities like Seattle lead to real harm. At what point do we hold people responsible for releasing violent murderers accountable when they murder again?

 

[jk7707]

Horrible story. But unless you've got the details on the rest of his convictions and sentences that were out of the ordinary, using this as a "soft on crime" dog whistle is bullshit.

The article says he was convicted of vehicular homicide in 1993. I'm sure he served time for that, but you can't put everyone in prison for the rest of their lives for every felony conviction. The justice system doesn't work that way.

 

[Sakuraba'sEar]

Horrible story. But unless you've got the details on the rest of his convictions and sentences that were out of the ordinary, using this as a "soft on crime" dog whistle is bullshit.

The article says he was convicted of vehicular homicide in 1993. I'm sure he served time for that, but you can't put everyone in prison for the rest of their lives for every felony conviction. The justice system doesn't work that way.

I understand not every felony is the same but vehicular homicide is essentially murder isn't it?

Unless it's beefed up manslaughter*

 

[koquerelle]

Horrible story. But unless you've got the details on the rest of his convictions and sentences that were out of the ordinary, using this as a "soft on crime" dog whistle is bullshit.

The article says he was convicted of vehicular homicide in 1993. I'm sure he served time for that, but you can't put everyone in prison for the rest of their lives for every felony conviction. The justice system doesn't work that way.

He killed someone in 1993. He shouldn't have seen the outside of a prison after that.

 

[koquerelle]

I understand not every felony is the same vehicular homicide is essentially murder isn't it?

Court documents show he hit and killed a pedestrian in Capitol Hill while driving 50 mph down a sidewalk on February 3, 1993.

In an interview with police, Haynes said he had been at a nightclub, and when he left, he thought somebody was pursuing him for his drugs and weapons.

According to official records, Haynes crossed a center line, hit a parked car, and drove onto a sidewalk. After hitting and killing a man, Haynes jumped into a taxi cab and fled.

Haynes claimed he left the scene because he thought the person he hit was still under his car.

Seattle Police say they never found any evidence that someone had been pursuing Haynes.

 

[jk7707]

He killed someone in 1993. He shouldn't have seen the outside of a prison after that.

You can say that. But that's not a typical sentence for that crime.

 

[koquerelle]

You can say that. But that's not a typical sentence for that crime.

He ran over and killed an innocent man. He should have been charged with murder.

"Vehicular homicide (also called automobile homicide and vehicular manslaughter) is a criminal offense that occurs when a person's illegal or negligent operation of a motor vehicle leads to the death of another individual."

 

[jk7707]

He ran over and killed an innocent man. He should have been charged with murder.

"Vehicular homicide (also called automobile homicide and vehicular manslaughter) is a criminal offense that occurs when a person's illegal or negligent operation of a motor vehicle leads to the death of another individual."

Sure. But, people generally don't get sentenced to life in prison for that.

Remember this?

Affluenza' defense: Rich teen gets probation after killing 4 in crash

 

[Madmick]

Sure. But, people generally don't get sentenced to life in prison for that.

Remember this?

Affluenza' defense: Rich teen gets probation after killing 4 in crash

Are you seriously invoking the infamous case that infuriated the entire nation because the scumbag silver spooner wasn't sentenced to prison for life as your defense in a thread devoted to calling out soft-on-crime sentencing?

Okay, Alanis.

 

[Pizza Werewolf]

Are you seriously invoking the infamous case that infuriated the entire nation because the scumbag silver spooner wasn't sentenced to prison for life as a defense in a thread devoted to calling out soft-on-crime sentencing?

Okay, Alanis.

That case is ridiculous, "he thought he could get away with anything"
Yeah ya proved him right .

 

[jk7707]

Are you seriously invoking the infamous case that infuriated the entire nation because the scumbag silver spooner wasn't sentenced to prison for life as a defense in a thread devoted to calling out soft-on-crime sentencing?

Okay, Alanis.

I'm using it as an example for sentencing for that particular crime. Even on the tougher end of the scale, it's not resulting in a life sentence. So using this awful story as a "soft on crime" example doesn't really hold water.

 

[ShadowRun]

Are you seriously invoking the infamous case that infuriated the entire nation because the scumbag silver spooner wasn't sentenced to prison for life as a defense in a thread devoted to calling out soft-on-crime sentencing?

Okay, Alanis.

You're wasting your time with that dolt.

 

[deadshot138]

Horrible story. But unless you've got the details on the rest of his convictions and sentences that were out of the ordinary, using this as a "soft on crime" dog whistle is bullshit.

The article says he was convicted of vehicular homicide in 1993. I'm sure he served time for that, but you can't put everyone in prison for the rest of their lives for every felony conviction. The justice system doesn't work that way.

Get absolutely fucked. You'd be singing a different tune if it were your family member run down by a shit bag. It's easy to be a liberal princess when you're disassociated from the crime and lack empathy and any real world experience.

 

[IDGETKTFO]

Nothing to see here, The accused is obviously being framed.

 

[jk7707]

Get absolutely fucked. You'd be singing a different tune if it were your family member run down by a shit bag. It's easy to be a liberal princess when you're disassociated from the crime and lack empathy and any real world experience.

So give me an example where someone committing that crime got life in prison. My point is that this type of post is outrage porn. It's terrible. Hearing an 80 year old dog walker getting killed is as bad as it gets. But then you have people like the OP here using it to push an agenda. And when you come at them with facts. They can't handle it.

 

[TadDunbar]

Looking at the perp, not shocked one bit

 

[italiamusica]

The justice system is fucked, for someone to be a career criminal and still get out to kill someone else.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Horrible story. But unless you've got the details on the rest of his convictions and sentences that were out of the ordinary, using this as a "soft on crime" dog whistle is bullshit.

The article says he was convicted of vehicular homicide in 1993. I'm sure he served time for that, but you can't put everyone in prison for the rest of their lives for every felony conviction. The justice system doesn't work.

FTFY.

 

[oldshadow]

Sure. But, people generally don't get sentenced to life in prison for that.

Remember this?

Affluenza' defense: Rich teen gets probation after killing 4 in crash

He has a history of crime and mental problems he should have been locked up.

"A motive in the killings was not immediately known, but police told USA TODAY Haynes has eight prior criminal convictions including a vehicular homicide in 1993, and Barden said the suspect has a history of mental health issues."

'She had a fire in her': 80-year-old grandmother killed while defending dogs in Seattle carjacking

Police said Ruth Dalton was killed in the carjacking. A dog in the car belonged to Dalton and was later found stabbed to death in a nearby park.

www.usatoday.com

 

[RoastBeast]

So give me an example where someone committing that crime got life in prison. My point is that this type of post is outrage porn. It's terrible. Hearing an 80 year old dog walker getting killed is as bad as it gets. But then you have people like the OP here using it to push an agenda. And when you come at them with facts. They can't handle it.

You should probably just log off and fade away on this one. Not a good look to be in here defending the freedom of a POS murderer that killed a defenseless 80 year old woman.