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7 cops shot in South Carolina serving warrant

To kill one officer and injure four others in that situation indicates to me the shit-bag had serious firepower, previous training/experience in using weapons, or both.
 
Shitty all around.

Spent last weekend standing pointing a rifle at a house on a barricaded subject for 6 hours of my 12.5 hour shift.

This hits home cause our call could have easily ended up this way had the dude decided to duke it out with us, with any of the 20 weapons he had inside.


Yeah, that shit sucks. I usually get bored, like a kid in left field watching the bees. Anyway, stay safe out there.
 
No offense to any officers, but they start as normal people. I believe people are more capable than they give themselves credit for. No one wants to be in those situations. Signing up to be an officer doesn't give one super powers. If you saw a situation were a child was in danger and you were the only one around to help would you guys not at least try?
A child in unspecified danger, sure.

An active shooter?
Easy to say yes but I could just go cold at the moment when it comes
 
Nothing to be ashamed of there. Most people couldn't in my opinion, they just haven't admitted it yet

I like to think that I could, I conceal carry, but I've never been in a true situation to actually know it or not. Now that I have a wife and we're talking when to start on kids, the odds of it being a coin flip I could I'm sure went down

Yes.

As well, bravery takes many forms.

I have done some things people considered heroic and life threatening in the moment where bravery was needed, and at the same time I have shrunk badly from many others great and small.

Certainly no shame in that, we all have different meddle, but the more we can overcome that fear to do the right thing, always the better.
 
To kill one officer and injure four others in that situation indicates to me the shit-bag had serious firepower, previous training/experience in using weapons, or both.

Eh, if he had the drop on them and they didn't think it was a high risk warrant so had their own weapons holstered, someone doing this with just a handgun and basic range time as they stood close and huddled outside his front door isn't unbelievable
 
Eh, if he had the drop on them and they didn't think it was a high risk warrant so had their own weapons holstered, someone doing this with just a handgun and basic range time as they stood close and huddled outside his front door isn't unbelievable
I've not read the story because I don't have the heart.
Thought a detail though was that they knocked to serve and he fired through the door.

Just like a complete asshole coward would
 
RIP.
Eh, if he had the drop on them and they didn't think it was a high risk warrant so had their own weapons holstered, someone doing this with just a handgun and basic range time as they stood close and huddled outside his front door isn't unbelievable

Even if they were highly trained and knew it was a high risk warrant, the bad guy getting the drop on them puts them at a severe disadvantage.

RIP.
 
I've not read the story because I don't have the heart.
Thought a detail though was that they knocked to serve and he fired through the door.

Just like a complete asshole coward would

That makes more sense. I thought he'd fired on them during the siege, when the cops would have been cocked, locked and ready to rock, and probably behind cover.

Frankly, I'm surprised they took him alive. I wouldn't have blamed them if they'd shot him while he was, ahem, "trying to grab my weapon, your honour".
 
Eh, if he had the drop on them and they didn't think it was a high risk warrant so had their own weapons holstered, someone doing this with just a handgun and basic range time as they stood close and huddled outside his front door isn't unbelievable
 
Yes how awful of me to make a political post on the politics forum.

Yeah how dare someone get upset about you pretending to be upset about something that didn't happen.

Keep clutching those pearls.
 
clearly all the cops were white otherwise this would be all over the news
 
That makes more sense. I thought he'd fired on them during the siege, when the cops would have been cocked, locked and ready to rock, and probably behind cover.

Frankly, I'm surprised they took him alive. I wouldn't have blamed them if they'd shot him while he was, ahem, "trying to grab my weapon, your honour".
I believe in rehabilitation... but think some are beyond saving as productive citizens
 
Appreciate it brother. That call was one of those few times in policing shit was definitely real.

I was on the front door and if he had exited armed I would have been the one to have to shoot. Conversely I was the one who was most exposed if he had decided to come out guns blazing or fired from the house.

Glad he gave up after SWAT showed after a few hours. Everyone got to go home to their families safe, him included.

I'm glad to hear that.

I'm also quite sorry to hear about this, though.
 
Any details on the shooter yet?

Authorities have named the suspect they believe shot seven police officers in South Carolina as they tried to serve a search warrant.

WIS-TV reports that Florence County Chief Deputy Glenn Kirby identified the suspect Thursday as 74-year-old Fred Hopkins.

 
Authorities have named the suspect they believe shot seven police officers in South Carolina as they tried to serve a search warrant.

WIS-TV reports that Florence County Chief Deputy Glenn Kirby identified the suspect Thursday as 74-year-old Fred Hopkins.



I posted the link to that old dude that killed two cops with a handgun then ran inside, put on a plate carrier and grabbed two ARs and got in a shootout on his front lawn before taking a bullet and surrendering like a little bitch.

Ban old people imo.
 
If only the cops had another 10 guns this could have been avoided.
 
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