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"The only white man you can trust is a dead white man." Mugabe
Honorable mention: Mandela
Honorable mention: Mandela
He was for decades a man of violence. In 1961, he broke with African National Congress colleagues who preached non-violence, creating a terrorist wing.
He later pleaded guilty in court to acts of public violence, and behind bars sanctioned more, including the 1983 Church St car bomb that killed 19 people.
Mandela even suggested cutting off the noses of blacks deemed collaborators. His then wife Winnie advocated "necklacing" instead - a burning tyre around the neck.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/op...f-nelson-mandela/story-fni0ffxg-1226778174719Mandela's support for other leaders of violence is even less forgivable. He maintained close ties to Cuban dictator Fidel Castro and backed Palestinian terrorist leader Yasser Arafat. As president in 1997, he gave his country's highest award for a foreigner to Libya's dictator, Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, who'd donated $10 million to the ANC. He gave the same award to the corrupt Indonesian president Suharto, who he said had donated $60 million.
He supported Nigerian coup leader Sani Abacha, refusing to say a word publicly to stop the 1995 hanging of activist Ken Saro-Wiwa.
Mandela was a garbage and a hypocritical weak willed, cowardly man who was also a racist. Wasn't he also a hardcore communist?
Netanyahu skipping his funeral claiming "expenses" was awesome. And showed really showed up South Africa for what it has become. Not to mention Mandelas hatred of whites and fanatical Anti-semitic tones he is a poster boy of the far left.
Lol good ol' Bibs. He's the "badass politician guy" that people should be making memes of, not that manlet Putin.
This coming from a Jewish supremacist supporter who agrees with the Israeli politician that African refugees are a cancer and thinks the Jews should ethnically cleanse the Palestinians.Mandela was a garbage and a hypocritical weak willed, cowardly man who was also a racist. Wasn't he also a hardcore communist?
Netanyahu skipping his funeral claiming "expenses" was awesome. And really showed up South Africa for what it has become. He isn't our leader and honoring him for his evils makes no sense. Not to mention Mandelas hatred of whites and fanatical Anti-semitic tones he is a poster boy of the far left.
This coming from a Jewish supremacist supporter who agrees with the Israeli politician that African refugees are a cancer and thinks the Jews should ethnically cleanse the Palestinians.
Netanyahu is a Jewish supremacist and ofcourse he would skip the funeral since Israel supportered the Apartheid government.
Israel gave nukes to the Apartheid government , worked alongside the Apartheid government who tried to use biological warfare to kill Blacks, and Isral worked on biological weapons that would specifically target Palestinians , unfortunately for Israel's genocidal leaders the Palestinians are also Semtic speaking Levantines so share similar DNA,
South Africa has a sizeable Jewish community and the largest Synogogue outside Israel but Jewish leaders hate Black refugeees and do their best to prevent them staying in Israel. Jews were/are heavily involved in teh diamond trade in South Africa , including during the Apartheid era. But ofcourse you think Jewish supremacism is ok but criticism of Jewish supremacism is Anti semitic.
I am not a Jewish supremacist and I never supported calling African migrants "cancers". If I did it was by mistake although I do agree with the politicians fears of Jews being harmed by non assimilating economic migrants who often have a different ideology. I also, agree that without controlled borders Jews can become a minority in their own home. If only 1% of Africa entered Israel it would cease to be a Jewish state. You also got me confused with someone else man I am not a supremacist I wake up every day wanting to make the world a better place. I hope for stability.
Also you have no basis to claim Netanyahu is a "supremacist". And lastly Israel never tried to develop these bio weapons.
Oh and one more thing. Why aren't you addressing the fact that Mandela was a communist, racist?
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...by-calling-african-migrants-a-cancer-1.432809Here's another Israeli politician calling African refugees a "cancer".
"Likud MK Miri Regev, who came under fire last week after calling African migrants "a cancer" in Israeli society, apologized for the first time for her comments on Sunday, opting, however, to leave the migrants out of her apology.'
Partial quote from me on that thread a few weeks back
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...by-calling-african-migrants-a-cancer-1.432809
Your response below:
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She is right they are largely a "cancer" and it is a shame that 98% of Israeli society does not feel that way. Thankfully the radical far left is getting beaten into submission in Israel. Ukrainian and Eastern Euro immigrants are very proud to be Jewish and the Jews fleeing for their lives from France will in time come to realize the truth.
The funniest thing about sickos like yourself is you intend to destroy your own people and you want to bring down the Jews because you just hate success so much. Your weak ideology of catering to filth and cancerous elements which obstruct the good of the people and nation is a disease and thankfully Israel won't ever yield to it. In 500 years the Jewish people and Israel will still exist assuming mankind exists, however I can't say that the Swedish people will exist as they do today nor can I say that much of Europe or the rest of the world will be as it currently is. "
So the guy (me ) who thinks it is wrong for Israeli politicians to call African refugees a cancer is a "sicko" . Ofcourse if someone repeated what the Nazis thought of Jews, you would be saying how they are sickos.
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/j...lestinian-baby.3136689/page-13#post-112019557
You also repeated the supremacist lie that Palestinians are an 'invented' people. This is peddled by rightiwng Jews , like Sheldon Adelson, whom you like. Ofcourse Adelson also supports open borders for the US .
" A common paternal ancestor maybe but most Palestinians today are so mixed and without purpose that is why they are called an invented people. They are literally that and largely displaced Arabs and original Jews and Jews of today are not Arabs in the slightest. "
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Also Netanyahu recently said this:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-around-israel-to-protect-it-from-wild-beasts
" Binyamin Netanyahu has announced his intention to “surround all of Israel with a fence” to protect the country from infiltration by both Palestinians and the citizens of surrounding Arab states, whom he described as “wild beasts”. "
Yeah if someone said this about Jews, you would call them anti-Semitic but Netanyahu saying it about non Jews does not make him a Jewish supremacist in your mind....
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So what if Mandela is a communist. He got help from the Communists because the West supported the Apartheid government. Same reason Ho Chi Minh got Communist support. Minh originally admired the US and thought they would support the Vietnamese people's anti colonial fight against the French but the US sided with the French so Minh ended up in the Communist camp. Why did the West ally with the Communists in ww2. Oh I see it is ok for the West to ally with Communists but not ok for others. Communism can also be democratic just as Capitalism can be autocratic.
Mandela's racism was a direct result of White society in SA and Western establishment being against the anti Apartheid movement. Not like he didn't have a dam good reason for it . In any case he changed quite a bit. Mandela even visited the Whites only SA town of Oranje on cordial terms and this was after the fall of Apartheid and the town still exists today.
Partial quote from me on that thread a few weeks back
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...by-calling-african-migrants-a-cancer-1.432809
Your response below:
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www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/10/netanyahu-plans-fence-around-israel-to-protect-it-from-wild-beasts
" Binyamin Netanyahu has announced his intention to “surround all of Israel with a fence” to protect the country from infiltration by both Palestinians and the citizens of surrounding Arab states, whom he described as “wild beasts”. "
Yeah if someone said this about Jews, you would call them anti-Semitic but Netanyahu saying it about non Jews does not make him a Jewish supremacist in your mind....
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So what if Mandela is a communist. He got help from the Communists because the West supported the Apartheid government. Same reason Ho Chi Minh got Communist support. Minh originally admired the US and thought they would support the Vietnamese people's anti colonial fight against the French but the US sided with the French so Minh ended up in the Communist camp. Why did the West ally with the Communists in ww2. Oh I see it is ok for the West to ally with Communists but not ok for others. Communism can also be democratic just as Capitalism can be autocratic.
Mandela's racism was a direct result of White society in SA and Western establishment being against the anti Apartheid movement. Not like he didn't have a dam good reason for it . In any case he changed quite a bit. Mandela even visited the Whites only SA town of Oranje on cordial terms and this was after the fall of Apartheid and the town still exists today.
How about this: Opposition to the Apartheid government and continued colonialism on the continent by western countries? Communist states provided material support against imperial oppression (outside of their own imperial holdings of course). Seems pretty clear. That doesn't excuse violence but your own in-credulousness is silly.Plus like I said he was a radical communist. I don't see justification for that.
Violence is underrated nowadays. I'm glad I live in a stable Western country where that necessity is outsourced to the police and army but as I grow older(I'm still a young person to be sure) I realize that not everyone has that luxury and to fault people for using violence as if its inherently wrong is silly.How about this: Opposition to the Apartheid government and continued colonialism on the continent by western countries? Communist states provided material support against imperial oppression (outside of their own imperial holdings of course). Seems pretty clear. That doesn't excuse violence but your own in-credulousness is silly.
More broadly, I find it utterly hilarious how so many on the right find it appropriate to criticize Mandela for using violence in opposition to the Apartheid government while simultaneously talking about how their second amendment rights are important for protecting against oppression. Ridiculous.
I think one can condemn violence generally while also recognizing and acknowledging what might precipitate it. That's often dismissed as apologetics but such dismissals are idiotic. Blowback is a real thing.Violence is underrated nowadays. I'm glad I live in a stable Western country where that necessity is outsourced to the police and army but as I grow older(I'm still a young person to be sure) I realize that not everyone has that luxury and to fault people for using violence as if its inherently wrong is silly.
That said one can criticize specific instances or patterns of violence by certain groups but I don't think it makes much sense to expect the Gandhi approach from every oppressed group on the planet.
Mandela, say what you will about his past, does not belong on such a list.
I'd like to see an African dictator who wasn't evil.