5/3/1 Assistance Templates: BBB or SS?

[KnightTemplar]

Wendler started a thread asking this question on the Elitefts Facebook page. I thought I'd give the guys of F13 a chance to answer it. So if you use 5/3/1, which of these Assistance Templates do you prefer: Boring But Big or Simplest Strength?

 

[belph]

BBB. Because I dunno what SS is.

 

[KnightTemplar]

BBB. Because I dunno what SS is.

SS = Simplest Strength. It's one major assistance lift for every 5/3/1 lift:

Incline Bench for Flat Bench.

Front Squats for Deadlift.

Close Grip Bench for Military Press.

Straight Leg Deadlifts for Squats.

Week One: 3X10

Week Two: 8/8/6

Week Three: 3X5

Week Four: Deload.

 

[NurseKnuckles]

I like the look of SS, personally. Quick, in and out...

BBB is a great program. I had some really good gains there. HAven't tried SS but it definitely looks like it would fit my schedule better

 

[KnightTemplar]

I like the look of SS, personally. Quick, in and out...

BBB is a great program. I had some really good gains there. HAven't tried SS but it definitely looks like it would fit my schedule better

I've made good gains on BBB. I'm considering a change to SS, mainly because I intend to increase my Martial Arts training and Conditioning. I think SS might be easier to recover from.

I find BJJ hard enough without trying to recover from BBB on Squats at the same time.

 

[PhelpsMMA]

I saw the title and thought SS stood for starting strength.

How possible do you think it would be to do 5/3/1 and starting strength?

 

[TeddyRoosevelt]

I saw the title and thought SS stood for starting strength.

How possible do you think it would be to do 5/3/1 and starting strength?

Combining a monthly progression with a thrice weekly progression? Sounds pretty ******* stupid.

 

[LegioTitan]

Combining a monthly progression with a thrice weekly progression? Sounds pretty ******* stupid.

Or..... AWESOME.

 

[PhelpsMMA]

Combining a monthly progression with a thrice weekly progression? Sounds pretty ******* stupid.

MONTHLY progression!?!? I thought 5/3/1 was a weekly weight-add, yikes how long does it take to increase numbers on that then? Why would anyone do that?

 

[DrBdan]

I saw the title and thought SS stood for starting strength.

How possible do you think it would be to do 5/3/1 and starting strength?

Your question makes no sense so here is a three-headed panda shooting rainbows from its mouth:

 

[toonie]

MONTHLY progression!?!? I thought 5/3/1 was a weekly weight-add, yikes how long does it take to increase numbers on that then? Why would anyone do that?

Because if you add 5lbs a month, that's 60 lbs in a year. Continue that out over 3 years and that's 180 lbs...

Lifting is a marathon, not a sprint.

 

[MilkManUK]

I do BBB where time permits and enjoy it but it can definately be a killer. I tend to do it more for bench and o/h press than deads and squats though.

 

[KnightTemplar]

I do BBB where time permits and enjoy it but it can definately be a killer. I tend to do it more for bench and o/h press than deads and squats though.

Same here. I never have any problems recovering from BBB on Bench or SOHP, but Squats BBB kill my legs for a few days afterwards.

Funny enough, but my traps hurt more than my legs after BBB on Deathlifts...

 

[Cratos]

Funny enough, but my traps hurt more than my legs after BBB on Deathlifts...

There's nothing funny/odd about that at all.

 

[KnightTemplar]

There's nothing funny/odd about that at all.

Good. That must mean I'm doing it right, then.:redface:

 

[LegioTitan]

There's nothing funny/odd about that at all.

If anything I would prefer this.

 

[rms13]

excuse me for hijacking the thread but I don't want to start another 531 thread. I have gone through this template squatting 3x per week 4 times now and looking for something new:

T NATION | Training Lab

Anyone else have some good templates that they like that are not covered in the first edition of his book?

 

[guilineseguy]

MONTHLY progression!?!? I thought 5/3/1 was a weekly weight-add, yikes how long does it take to increase numbers on that then? Why would anyone do that?

Its the philosophy of the program really. Its about starting and training at a heavy, but not max heavy weight. It helps maintain progress where other lifters who train harder might plateau. The reasoning seems solid. Glad to be reading it finally.

 

[eastNYgoon138]

Both templates suck. Wendler is fucking lazy. Do more work

 

[NurseKnuckles]

MONTHLY progression!?!? I thought 5/3/1 was a weekly weight-add, yikes how long does it take to increase numbers on that then? Why would anyone do that?

Because getting string is not a 100m sprint. However in the grand scheme of things you can increase your squat by 60-100 Lbs in a year, which is no joke.

5/3/1 is a great program and can really work with your life routine.