Conor fighting actually ruins MMA

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Before this week, so much great stuff was happening with MMA.

MMA and UFC can clearly live without Conor, and its actually better without him

As soon as he comes back, it becomes an atrocious mess, with all focus being taken off everything.

I agree he brings eyes to the sport, but how many of those eyes stay once he is gone?

I used to like the drama he brought, but this time round is becoming a joke, and personally cannot wait until its over so we can go back to focusing on the other great fights
 
The Big Bang said:
You'll be singing a different tune after he gets knocked out again.

It will be glorious.

And although he should have retired long ago, I hope he keeps fighting. It would show that he NEEDS the money...as he gets demolished by a scrub. lol
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Oh don't get me wrong, I will join the celebration if he gets KO'd. No way I will be missing that party, but once it dies down after a few weeks, it will be better.

He just seems to bring out the worse in people, except for his opponents who beat him.
 
If he loses to Dustin again, the third fight with Nate is going to me a massive challenge.
 
I agree here. You'd think WME, being the talent engine it is, would have some expertise in how to promote fighters other than Conor. Sadly it's not the case. Expected though when few to none in the company are MMA fans.
 
SakurabasEar said:
The ufc still needs conor, nobody else is breaking a million buys right now (please correct if I'm wrong)
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Of course from a business stand point in terms of making money, its great for the UFC. But other than that, he hasn't done anything good for the sport recently.

Has he?
 
Prologue said:
I agree here. You'd think WME, being the talent engine it is, would have some expertise in how to promote fighters other than Conor. Sadly it's not the case. Expected though when few to none in the company are MMA fans.
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We see this with lots of fighters who get long win streaks, its seems like they are being built up. But instead they are just left out to dry, and treated like crap.
 
The Big Bang said:
And although he should have retired long ago, I hope he keeps fighting. It would show that he NEEDS the money...as he gets demolished by a scrub. lol
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If he ever needs the money he'll box Jake Paul for many times he can earn fighting some "scrub" in MMA. When you see him fight in the UFC it's because he loves it.
 
CPH said:
If he loses to Dustin again, the third fight with Nate is going to me a massive challenge.
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It will still sell, cause its Conor..and Nate, plus its a trilogy, and will be marketed at Conors final shot at regaining some form of credibility. Maybe not sell as well as it should/could have, but it will be difficult if he loses tomorrow.
 
fullspar said:
Of course from a business stand point in terms of making money, its great for the UFC. But other than that, he hasn't done anything good for the sport recently.

Has he?
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his fights are always good and the people on his undercard get way more exposure and get paid more. he is a net positive for mma he gets eyes on the sport and raises the bar for everyone. he gets more people interested in the sport than anybody else. predictably snobs will bitch about casuals in response to this but many casuals turn into hardcores, all hardcores were once casuals, and the more popular the sport is the better it is for everyone. say what you want but he is basically responsible for much of khabibs popularity, he helped take him to the next level. he gives people the rub
 
fullspar said:
We see this with lots of fighters who get long win streaks, its seems like they are being built up. But instead they are just left out to dry, and treated like crap.
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There's a lot that goes into making a fighter a star, but sometimes it feels like both those on the inside, and fighters themselves, think it's all about drama and trash talk.

I'd argue that the biggest thing that makes fighters stars is how badly they can beat up other names. People started talking about Conor when he gave Marcus Brimage, not a big fighter, but decently known, the Houston Alexander treatment. Pure, utter violence. Then ending Aldo's murder streak in 13 seconds is really what make him take off. The dismantling of another champ in a higher weightclass, again, propelled his stardom. Same can be said for Jorge Masvidal. He struggled throughout the majority of his career, then became a star overnight by ending Ben Askren's undefeated streak in 5 seconds. As Jorge put it, he "brings the violence".

The problem with all that is that it's damn difficult to do. And trying to force these things makes it all come off contrived and fake. At some point, you just got to accept that the truly special thing these guys had isn't something that can be recreated in a boardroom, especially at the highest levels of the sport.
 
Prologue said:
There's a lot that goes into making a fighter a star, but sometimes it feels like both those on the inside, and fighters themselves, think it's all about drama and trash talk.

I'd argue that the biggest thing that makes fighters stars is how badly they can beat up other names. People started talking about Conor when he gave Marcus Brimage, not a big fighter, but decently known, the Houston Alexander treatment. Pure, utter violence. Then ending Aldo's murder streak in 13 seconds is really what make him take off. The dismantling of another champ in a higher weightclass, again, propelled his stardom. Same can be said for Jorge Masvidal. He struggled throughout the majority of his career, then became a star overnight by ending Ben Askren's undefeated streak in 5 seconds. As Jorge put it, he "brings the violence".

The problem with all that is that it's damn difficult to do. And trying to force these things makes it all come off contrived and fake. At some point, you just got to accept that the truly special thing these guys had isn't something that can be recreated in a boardroom, especially at the highest levels of the sport.
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This is true, look at Leon. Long win streak, but he's beat up nobody, and Mike Chandler comes in with one heavy KO. Dana is a just bleed guy
 
Says the guy that literally made 100 threads about Conor this week
 


Poor guy's drinking the UFC's Kool-Aid. Conor still talks like he was that young and hungry fighter that first came into the company. He even stated, "My domination in two divisions is forever." He fought a run-down Alvarez for the belt and lost to every single LW he's fought since, but according to him, it's domination. He got offended with Stephen A. brought up Khabib beating him and stated that Khabib's dad handpicked his fights. So quick he forgets that a lot of his fights were guys that the UFC had to call in for an emergency fight that were on vacation. They wouldn't dare call up a Top 10 that was training at the time.

I hope that Conor gets rid of the Yes Men he clearly is surrounded by. It's not doing him any good.
 
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