This Is What Amanda Ribas Should Have Done to Marina Rodriguez

[UFCIsNOTRigged]

If your opponent turns their back and you instantly grab their leg for a takedown, which they shake off with their back still turned walking away three things are clear.

You clearly know you are still in a fight, otherwise why the hell did you grab onto their leg for a takedown when they turned their back and began walking away. You were still fighting when your opponent began to walk away.

Your opponents is oblivious to what is going on but their ignorance should not and does not shield them from legal strikes in the fight they are very much still a live participant in.

You continue to attack them and most of the time you will put them out.

You never stop fighting.


Heres how Billy Q reacted when an aloof Spike Carlyle began to walk away with several seconds left on the clock. Back turned to his opponent and oblivious to the fact he was still in an MMA fight, just as Marina was.

Spike survived this blow because the ref (incorrectly) warned him as Billy Q pounced on his ignorant opponent, but in an arena with fans it is unlikely Marina would have been so lucky.

Big L for Ribas

 

[Iron Nick]

Marina wasn't lucky.

Suck it, bro!

 

[Jose Beehive]

Shoulda coulda woulda , Herb fucked up, what can you do... If she wasn't sure and attacked Marina, and Herb had called the fight, she'd have been booted out of the the UFC.

 

[Luthien]

Pretty sure confusion was ripe all around
if Herb had stopped the fight or not

 

[UFCIsNOTRigged]

Shoulda coulda woulda , Herb fucked up, what can you do... If she wasn't sure and attacked Marina, and Herb had called the fight, she'd have been booted out of the the UFC.

She was attacking the leg of Marina as she walked away, Marina shook her off with her back turned and instead of getting up to attack she glanced at Herb and loudly asked him a question that did not need to be asked or answered. She did not have ahold of the leg until Marina turned her back and began to walk away, so she was still fighting as Marina was walking away.

 

[UFCIsNOTRigged]

Marina wasn't lucky.

Suck it, bro!

Are you stupid or something?

This has nothing to do with Marina being lucky, it has to do with her opponent not continuing to fight as any intelligent fighter would (and as we have seen in the past); look at Spike geting cracked in the jaw. Different circumstances but same aloofness and vulnerability to the situation.

 

[Iron Nick]

Are you stupid or something?

This has nothing to do with Marina being lucky, it has to do with her opponent not continuing to fight as any intelligent fighter would (and as we have seen in the past); look at Spike geting cracked in the jaw. Different circumstances but same aloofness and vulnerability to the situation.

in an arena with fans it is unlikely Marina would have been so lucky.

That very clearly sounds like Marina did profit from some kind of luck, no?

 

[Qays Stetkevich]

If your opponent turns their back and you instantly grab their leg for a takedown, which they shake off with their back still turned walking away three things are clear.

You clearly know you are still in a fight, otherwise why the hell did you grab onto their leg for a takedown when they turned their back and began walking away. You were still fighting when your opponent began to walk away.

Your opponents is oblivious to what is going on but their ignorance should not and does not shield them from legal strikes in the fight they are very much still a live participant in.

You continue to attack them and most of the time you will put them out.


Heres how Billy Q reacted when an aloof Spike Carlyle began to walk away with several seconds left on the clock. Back turned to his opponent and oblivious to the fact he was still in an MMA fight, just as Marina was.

Spike survived this blow because the ref (incorrectly) warned him as Billy Q pounced on his ignorant opponent, but in an arena with fans it is unlikely Marina would have been so lucky.

Big L for Ribas

Agreed, except that OF COURSE the ref should alert a fighter who incorrectly thinks the round is over that the round, is in fact, not over. That's a basic in all reffing jobs, particularly one with such potential consequences as MMA or boxing.

 

[Jose Beehive]

Are you stupid or something?

This has nothing to do with Marina being lucky, it has to do with her opponent not continuing to fight as any intelligent fighter would (and as we have seen in the past); look at Spike geting cracked in the jaw. Different circumstances but same aloofness and vulnerability to the situation.

Neither continued to fight, BOTH thought it had been stopped.

 

[UFCIsNOTRigged]

Neither continued to fight, BOTH thought it had been stopped.

Amanda was being pounded by Marina, Herb rushes in but instead of signaling the fight is done he looks down. Marina then stands up, tuns her back, and Amanda grabs her leg as Marina makes her first stride away with her back turned.

Marina shakes Amanda off her leg with her back turned as she is walking away.

Amanda was still fighting her.

Amanda grabbed onto the leg only after Marina turned her back and began the process of walking away, she was still fighting while Marina was initially walking away. The only reason Amanda stopped is because Marina shook her off her leg as she walked away.

Why she stopped and instead glanced at Herb and then asked him (which caught the attention of Marina) is only something she can answer, because any intelligent fighter (as Billy Q did) continues to fight. Your opponents obliviousness does not shield them.

 

[GueseGuy]

It’s Wmma don’t get too upset man

 

[Sticko]

Spike survived this blow because the ref (incorrectly) warned him as Billy Q pounced on his ignorant opponent, but in an arena with fans it is unlikely Marina would have been so lucky.

The ref CORRECTLY warned Spike that the fight was still going. They say to defend yourself at all times and obey the ref's commands at all times. If someone stops fighting the ref tells them to keep fighting.

Spike confused the woodblock with the bell which is stupid but it happened at least 2 or 3 times last year.

 

[GordoBarraBJJ]

I
Big L for Ribas

She was dropped, hurt, and was eating shots - there is no way she had the wits about her to get up and run after Rodriguez.

 

[UFCIsNOTRigged]

Agreed, except that OF COURSE the ref should alert a fighter who incorrectly thinks the round is over that the round, is in fact, not over. That's a basic in all reffing jobs, particularly one with such potential consequences as MMA or boxing.

The ignorance of a fighter to the fact they are still a live participant in an MMA fight is their own burden, not the burden of the ref, it is not the responsibility of the ref to warn the aloof fighter to legal strikes they are about to be hit with.

Billy Q would have put Spike out had the ref not yelled to him as the strike was being thrown. He was still hit with it but the impact was not as brutal because he turned his head in reaction to the ref.

Amanda should have done the exact same thing as Billy Q. She knew she was still in an MMA fight, why else would she have grabbed her opponents leg as they turned and began to walk away.

Once she was shaken of Marinas leg, she could and should have gotten up and swung just as Billy Q did on Spike. The ignorance of Spike/Marina does not shield them from the consequences of the fight they are still aparty to.

 

[Jose Beehive]

Amanda was being pounded by Marina, Herb rushes in but instead of signaling the fight is done he looks down. Marina then stands up, tuns her back, and Amanda grabs her leg as Marina makes her first stride away with her back turned.

Marina shakes Amanda off her leg with her back turned as she is walking away.

Amanda was still fighting her.

Amanda grabbed onto the leg only after Marina turned her back and began the process of walking away, she was still fighting while Marina was initially walking away. The only reason Amanda stopped is because Marina shook her off her leg as she walked away.

Why she stopped and instead glanced at Herb and then asked him (which caught the attention of Marina) is only something she can answer, because any intelligent fighter (as Billy Q did) continues to fight. Your opponents obliviousness does not shield them.

Pretty sure Herb loses his footing and touches Marina making her think it's over ... If the Ref touches you in that situation it's normal to think he's stopped it.

Everything about this suggests Herb is stopping the fight from the 2 fighters perspectives. If you think the fight is over but not certain, you don't go and try sucker punch your opponent just in case, you wait to find out whether it is or not, like seemingly Ribas did - totally on the Ref for his poor communication after nearly falling into them.

 

[UFCIsNOTRigged]

She was dropped, hurt, and was eating shots - there is no way she had the wits about her to get up and run after Rodriguez.

Then why did she grab onto her leg when Marina had stood up and began to walk away? She was continuing to fight. I agree she was likely concussed and may not have immediately realized she needed to strike her opponent. But once Marina with her back turned shakes her off her leg, as if shes a needy dog grabbing onto her leg, and continues walking Amanda needed to get up and hit Marina as hard as she could or jumped on her back.

Staying on the floor and instead glancing at Herb and then asking him (which is what got Marinas attention) is not what you do (if you want to win the fight).

 

[Qays Stetkevich]

The ref CORRECTLY warned Spike that the fight was still going. They say to defend yourself at all times and obey the ref's commands at all times. If someone stops fighting the ref tells them to keep fighting.

Spike confused the woodblock with the bell which is stupid but it happened at least 2 or 3 times last year.

Agree completely. Why OP is claiming that it's "not the ref's burden" is like arguing a technicality; "Well, is doesn't SPECIFICALLY say that if a fighter is confused and thinks that the round is already over, or misheard the bell, that it's the ref's duty to tell them". Oh, ok.

 

[TITS]

Then why did she grab onto her leg when Marina had stood up and began to walk away?

This kind of thing happens sometimes as a ref is waving it off. Gaethje did the same thing with Poirier, it has happened in a lot of fights.